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Old 01-14-2006, 09:56 AM   #1
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Default Tired of the excuses coming out of NE

I'm getting tired of all the excuses made for the Pats over that butt whippin' the Broncos put on them. They flat out got beat by a better team. I don't think this Pats team is much better than they were earlier in the season. They lost to just about every good team, then got fat off a horrible AFC East. The only decent team in that division other than the Pats was the Dolphins, but the Pats were able to aviod them until the final week of the season. By then they had gotten fat off the Jets and Bills.

I can't wait for this game to start, and shut the national media up. This isn't the Pats team from years before. They aren't as good. That's one reason why this game is in Mile High, and not NE. The other reason is because the Broncos are a very good football team and earned it.
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:41 AM   #2
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Didn't Denver get spanked by Miami?NE's 2nd and 3d stringers lost to Miami in wk 17 by 2 pts.Just facts,no excuses.
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ESPN had a stat up this morning...first 8 games 27.x ppg allowed....last 9 only 13.4 ppg

They are playing much better football on D
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Didn't Denver get spanked by Miami?NE's 2nd and 3d stringers lost to Miami in wk 17 by 2 pts.Just facts,no excuses.
You learned football by listening to JOHN MADDEN, didn't you...
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ESPN had a stat up this morning...first 8 games 27.x ppg allowed....last 9 only 13.4 ppg

They are playing much better football on D
They played much weaker opponents at the end of the season...
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:48 AM   #6
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ESPN had a stat up this morning...first 8 games 27.x ppg allowed....last 9 only 13.4 ppg

They are playing much better football on D
It helps when you see the Jets and Bills twice.

Didnt we shut out the Jets 27-0? I believe that we played a sub-par game and still held them to 12 yards rushing.
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That's one reason why this game is in Mile High, and not NE. The other reason is because the Broncos are a very good football team and earned it.
The media seems to be overlooking this! Little do they know
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:12 AM   #8
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How about you forget the stats, forget the teams they played and just check out the damn roster from that game up until now... If you dont see an improvement, then you are blind.
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:13 AM   #9
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How about you forget the stats, forget the teams they played and just check out the damn roster from that game up until now... If you dont see an improvement, then you are blind.

Another excuse. They just cant help themselves.
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:23 AM   #10
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This will probably be a 24-21 type game, it should be close and I think the Pats luck will run out, as it is hard to win playoff games in Denver. If this game is a blowout, it will be the Broncos blowing the Pats out, I seriously doubt the Pats have the tools to blow Denver out.
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Didn't Denver get spanked by Miami?NE's 2nd and 3d stringers lost to Miami in wk 17 by 2 pts.Just facts,no excuses.
What's that game have to do with anything?

The Pats got spanked by the Bills week one a couple years back, 31-0. The Pats went on to go 14-2, beat the Bills week 17 31-0, and win the Super Bowl. The Bills ended up 4-12.

So why are you even bringing up that game?

If you are trying to use the "if team a beats team b, and team b beats team c, then team a should be team c" theory, that's been proven many times that it doesn't work. The matchups are different. And one game was week one, the other week 17.

Really thinking about it, that was a really dumb post.
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What's that game have to do with anything?

The Pats got spanked by the Bills week one a couple years back, 31-0. The Pats went on to go 14-2, beat the Bills week 17 31-0, and win the Super Bowl. The Bills ended up 4-12.

So why are you even bringing up that game?

If you are trying to use the "if team a beats team b, and team b beats team c, then team a should be team c" theory, that's been proven many times that it doesn't work. The matchups are different. And one game was week one, the other week 17.

Really thinking about it, that was a really dumb post.

Don't worry about it, HE learned football by watching MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL and listening to what JOHN MADDEN told him...
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Under that logic, we beat SD twice, while New England got crushed at home by the Chargers...but hey, we have no chance today...

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Hey, Jason, you thought you'd get an intelligent, well-thought out, objective, realistic post from these pats' trolls? Not gonna happen.
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It has as much to do with it as NE's 1st trip to Denver.You said that NE lost to a better team and on that day it is a correct statement.Denver lost to a better team in week one.You are the one bringing up irrelevent games.All that matters is which team executes tonight.
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Yeah, what the hell was I thinking. These guys probably think their team went 14-2 again, and this game is in NE.
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Hey, Jason, you thought you'd get an intelligent, well-thought out, objective, realistic post from these pats' trolls? Not gonna happen.


But.but.but, Tom Brady is pretty, and Tedy overcame a stroke. We just gotta win the SB now...........................


Every single matchup in this game we are better. We should really domiante this Pats team! I think it will be close, but the better team always wins in the playoffs
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It has as much to do with it as NE's 1st trip to Denver.You said that NE lost to a better team and on that day it is a correct statement.Denver lost to a better team in week one.You are the one bringing up irrelevent games.All that matters is which team executes tonight.
A head to head matchup means a lot more than bringing a third team into this. If we go by your logic, the Dolphins should have beat the Chiefs by 50 points. The Dolphins beat the Broncos pretty bad. The Broncos then blew out the Chiefs a few weeks later. So shouldn't the Dolphins have killed the Chiefs? By your logic yes. But that theory doesn't work. The Chiefs killed the Dolphins. So your point is still dumb. That Dolphin game doesn't help your argument.

The Pats were a great team a couple years back. They just fell out the gates. The Bills got lucky. This Pats team isn't great. I'd say above average judging from the regular season. This Bronco team is very good, and I don't see much difference between these teams since they played the first time. The Pats shined up their record by beating a bunch of bad teams, but they still aren't much better than the first time these teams met.
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Yeah, what the hell was I thinking. These guys probably think their team went 14-2 again, and this game is in NE.

Pretty much thier only argument is that they have played very well to close out the season.

And we have CRUSHED that argument!

When you play below average teams (very bad teams in the East) yoy should get on a little roll going into the playoffs.

I will give them the Jags win, but in the 2nd half the JAgs basically gave up, and went away from their gameplan.

7-3 was the score and the Jags forgot that they have a couple of VERY good Rb's. Being one dimensional wont win you football games.
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I pray that your Bronco's think like you.ALL THAT MATTERS IS TONIGHT.I don't make any excuses for NE's losses.
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Yes, you do. every single Patriots fan has thought at some point this season, of only we had bruschi in, or only if we still had ty law. Problem is, neither player can or will help you today. Denver is the healthier, and better team.

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I pray that your Bronco's think like you.ALL THAT MATTERS IS TONIGHT.I don't make any excuses for NE's losses.

Think like us, i hope they are confident as well!

They are the better team and they should act like it!
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Pats are gonna beat us , dont believe..... just ask the Mighty Jets offense what this pats defense can do .....
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Didn't Denver get spanked by Miami?NE's 2nd and 3d stringers lost to Miami in wk 17 by 2 pts.Just facts,no excuses.
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:29 PM   #25
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If you are trying to use the "if team a beats team b, and team b beats team c, then team a should be team c" theory,
Just go off of the Team A beat Team B theory with A being Denver and B being New England. Much simpler.
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