Lendale White or DeAngelo Williams - The Orange Mane

Master___Pain · 01-11-2006, 02:05 PM

Who's the #2 RB behind Reggie Bush in this draft. I have certainly seen a lot of White and he's the real deal but I have only seen glimpses of Williams. Which back goes higher?

RocBronc · 01-11-2006, 02:21 PM

I like White, but I saw Williams in his bowl game and he's the real deal as well.

elsid13 · 01-11-2006, 02:37 PM

Pre-combine Williams due to potential break away speed, but White is little larger and would have no problem being that 30 carry back that coaches love.

Broncoman13 · 01-12-2006, 05:54 AM

I think when it's said and done White will be the 2nd back taken. That doesn't mean that DeAngelo isn't a helluva back in his own right... it just means that White's size to speed ratio is eye opening good. If the dude runs in the 4.4's he'll be a top 10 pick and could very easily go to GB at 5.

Drek · 01-13-2006, 11:07 AM

Deangelo Williams is the better player if you ask me, and a team that takes White over him will likely regret it down the road. I can see where a team would do that though, big powerful runners get teams fixated on them. Williams is faster, more field aware, and has better hands. Both should be great at the pro level and individual success depends on the teams they play for and how they're utilized, but I think Williams is a more versatile, more talented, RB.

WABronco · 01-13-2006, 11:39 AM

I'd like LenDale, but I'd love DeAngelo!!!

The guy's just uber-productive, and he can get it done in a variety of ways. I would say he's a better all around back than White.

27atwater · 01-13-2006, 11:48 AM

maroney

Rascal · 01-13-2006, 11:50 AM

It depends on how slow White is. Is he going to be a Ron Dayne or Alstott or be a Jerome Bettis? I think that is his biggest hurdle (just a big slow RB to get the tough yards or something better). But I'd give the edge to Deangelo.

RocBronc · 01-13-2006, 12:03 PM

Honestly, I don't know how you compare white to Dayne Alstott or Bettis. All 3 of these guys were "power" guys, where as White is a balance of speed and power.

Drek · 01-13-2006, 01:24 PM

I'd compare White to Chris Brown, currently playing for the Titans, Eddie George, or Larry Johnson. Big and powerful with enough speed to get the job done at the NFL level.

Thing is, those guys depend on a good line and good offensive schemes. Great RBs, guys worthy of that top 5 pick, don't. Reggie Bush is that type of player. DeAngelo Williams is, in my opinion, that type of player.

Lestat · 01-14-2006, 12:10 AM

Deangelo Williams or Laurence Maroney but Lendale is the perfect thunder to Bell's lightning

i just don't fully yet believe Denver will take a RB early

HBK · 01-14-2006, 12:55 AM

When i was watching USCvTexas i thought to myself i would be happy if we took Lendale with one of our first 2 picks, but he looks out of our reach now and i feel that unless we are getting somebody like him or Bush (wont happen) then i wouldn't want a first day pick used on a RB.

I also don't like all these mocks having us taking a TE no matter how talented they are...i want to give Duke a chance.

elsid13 · 01-14-2006, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HBK

When i was watching USCvTexas i thought to myself i would be happy if we took Lendale with one of our first 2 picks, but he looks out of our reach now and i feel that unless we are getting somebody like him or Bush (wont happen) then i wouldn't want a first day pick used on a RB.

I also don't like all these mocks having us taking a TE no matter how talented they are...i want to give Duke a chance.

Don't worry I think in the last 5 years, every internet mock draft have us taking a TE in the first round. Shanahan cut Marquee Anderson to ensure Duke wasn't stolen by another team. Heck he seen more playing time then Nate Jackson, and his future look bright here.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 01-14-2006, 08:18 AM

Again, you guys are pinning the future on a guy who has never played the position before, was active for 3-4 games this year and caught, I think, 2 passes. I would love to see Duke make it but you can't bet the future on an unproven commodity. Winthin reason, Broncs can upgrade any position on the team. What do you think Broncs do if they have a LB rated number 8 on their board that falls to 1B? Of course you take him, unless you have an equal rated player at a need position sitting there. Broncs have two good TE and two with potential, but if you have a chance to grab a future superstar, you make that move. A personnel guy can't be sentemental.

elsid13 · 01-14-2006, 08:31 AM

Big guy

I disagree that you always go BPA in the early rounds, you look potential areas of upgrade and target them in the early rounds. Shanahan seem to put together a single integrated priority list. Later you focus on BPA. Right now TE is not place that needs an upgrade, the area of focus are are the defense line, wide receiver, safeties, interior offensive line. Between Jed, Alexander, Jackson, Duke there is good current production and potential very good future production.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 01-14-2006, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Big guy

I disagree that you always go BPA in the early rounds, you look potential areas of upgrade and target them in the early rounds. Shanahan seem to put together a single integrated priority list. Later you focus on BPA. Right now TE is not place that needs an upgrade, the area of focus are are the defense line, wide receiver, safeties, interior offensive line. Between Jed, Alexander, Jackson, Duke there is good current production and potential very good future production.

I did not necessarily mean a strict BPA scenario. But if you felt someone really fell through the cracks to your spot at a position you felt was Ok on the you would take them. I don't think TE is a weakness on the team, but I don't think it is a strength. With the shortage of passing options on the roster, you think they would dismiss picking a TE if they felt he was an all pro in waiting? I am not advocating a Te, just saying with the depth at that postion it would not shock me. If AJ Hawk somehow fell to them, I would expect they would take him even though they appear loaded at LB.

I agree, in my opinion the best case scenario would be for the broncs to come out of the draft with two DL, two WR and at two OL who could contribute, plus some depth at a couple of other positions.

Swedish Extrovert · 01-14-2006, 06:01 PM

Lendale White.... I had to tackle that sunuva beotch playing for Dakota Ridge. It was a bad day.

Swedish Extrovert · 01-14-2006, 06:10 PM

Yeah we lost that game, it was like Chatfield 49 Dakota Ridge 28

That guy just ran over me up the middle... they put me in a free safety, and he brok through the line, straight at me. He hit me, and I wrapped up around his chest, and he fell foward for like three additional yards. Knocked the wind out of me.

The other two I had help, not that one.

01-11-2006, 02:05 PM	#1
Master___Pain Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Springs Posts: 4,605 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rock Hoover	Lendale White or DeAngelo Williams Who's the #2 RB behind Reggie Bush in this draft. I have certainly seen a lot of White and he's the real deal but I have only seen glimpses of Williams. Which back goes higher?

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01-11-2006, 02:21 PM	#2
RocBronc Pro Bowler Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 540	I like White, but I saw Williams in his bowl game and he's the real deal as well.

01-11-2006, 02:37 PM	#3
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,087	Pre-combine Williams due to potential break away speed, but White is little larger and would have no problem being that 30 carry back that coaches love.

01-12-2006, 05:54 AM	#4
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	I think when it's said and done White will be the 2nd back taken. That doesn't mean that DeAngelo isn't a helluva back in his own right... it just means that White's size to speed ratio is eye opening good. If the dude runs in the 4.4's he'll be a top 10 pick and could very easily go to GB at 5.

01-13-2006, 11:07 AM	#5
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,316	Deangelo Williams is the better player if you ask me, and a team that takes White over him will likely regret it down the road. I can see where a team would do that though, big powerful runners get teams fixated on them. Williams is faster, more field aware, and has better hands. Both should be great at the pro level and individual success depends on the teams they play for and how they're utilized, but I think Williams is a more versatile, more talented, RB.

01-13-2006, 11:39 AM	#6
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	I'd like LenDale, but I'd love DeAngelo!!! The guy's just uber-productive, and he can get it done in a variety of ways. I would say he's a better all around back than White.

01-13-2006, 11:48 AM	#7
27atwater THANK U! sphincter says "what"? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sharon, Pa Posts: 1,594	maroney

01-13-2006, 11:50 AM	#8
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	It depends on how slow White is. Is he going to be a Ron Dayne or Alstott or be a Jerome Bettis? I think that is his biggest hurdle (just a big slow RB to get the tough yards or something better). But I'd give the edge to Deangelo.

01-13-2006, 12:03 PM	#9
RocBronc Pro Bowler Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 540	Honestly, I don't know how you compare white to Dayne Alstott or Bettis. All 3 of these guys were "power" guys, where as White is a balance of speed and power.

01-13-2006, 01:24 PM	#10
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,316	I'd compare White to Chris Brown, currently playing for the Titans, Eddie George, or Larry Johnson. Big and powerful with enough speed to get the job done at the NFL level. Thing is, those guys depend on a good line and good offensive schemes. Great RBs, guys worthy of that top 5 pick, don't. Reggie Bush is that type of player. DeAngelo Williams is, in my opinion, that type of player.

01-14-2006, 12:10 AM	#11
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,168	Deangelo Williams or Laurence Maroney but Lendale is the perfect thunder to Bell's lightning i just don't fully yet believe Denver will take a RB early

01-14-2006, 12:55 AM	#12
HBK Just Drafted Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20	When i was watching USCvTexas i thought to myself i would be happy if we took Lendale with one of our first 2 picks, but he looks out of our reach now and i feel that unless we are getting somebody like him or Bush (wont happen) then i wouldn't want a first day pick used on a RB. I also don't like all these mocks having us taking a TE no matter how talented they are...i want to give Duke a chance.

01-14-2006, 08:18 AM	#14
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Again, you guys are pinning the future on a guy who has never played the position before, was active for 3-4 games this year and caught, I think, 2 passes. I would love to see Duke make it but you can't bet the future on an unproven commodity. Winthin reason, Broncs can upgrade any position on the team. What do you think Broncs do if they have a LB rated number 8 on their board that falls to 1B? Of course you take him, unless you have an equal rated player at a need position sitting there. Broncs have two good TE and two with potential, but if you have a chance to grab a future superstar, you make that move. A personnel guy can't be sentemental.

01-14-2006, 08:31 AM	#15
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,087	Big guy I disagree that you always go BPA in the early rounds, you look potential areas of upgrade and target them in the early rounds. Shanahan seem to put together a single integrated priority list. Later you focus on BPA. Right now TE is not place that needs an upgrade, the area of focus are are the defense line, wide receiver, safeties, interior offensive line. Between Jed, Alexander, Jackson, Duke there is good current production and potential very good future production.

01-14-2006, 06:01 PM	#17
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,953 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	Lendale White.... I had to tackle that sunuva beotch playing for Dakota Ridge. It was a bad day.

01-14-2006, 06:10 PM	#18
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,953 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	Yeah we lost that game, it was like Chatfield 49 Dakota Ridge 28 That guy just ran over me up the middle... they put me in a free safety, and he brok through the line, straight at me. He hit me, and I wrapped up around his chest, and he fell foward for like three additional yards. Knocked the wind out of me. The other two I had help, not that one.