Vermeil retires after the season..no matter what - The Orange Mane

ScottXray · 12-24-2005, 04:57 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5195060

Vermeil gives it up....according to FOX Jay Glaser.

also video of Vermeil crying after the chefs win..
on fox main page...haha.

orange crusher · 12-24-2005, 05:00 PM

The beginning of the Kotite era in KC is only days away!

ludo21 · 12-24-2005, 05:00 PM

boohoooooo

Cry me a WAAAAmbulance!! :vermiel:

KC is just a different team at home, away from their, they just suck.

bpc · 12-24-2005, 05:06 PM

Combine that with departures of possibly Green, Roaf, Shields, Priest and GOONTHER and the Chiefs are starting over from scratch again... I love it. Thats like giving a cat a dead mouse to bat around. I love it. AND it couldn't happen to a better organization.

FORmeal is gone next year which also means KC's December home streak as well... almost guranteed we will be playing there in December and we will be winning.

KC = Oakland of 2003. Close to the great collapse... Chief fans can look at Oakland and feel like they are looking in the mirror. I love it.

GonzoLays · 12-24-2005, 05:09 PM

I for one would hate to see the crying biatch leave. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better coach to pick on, ESPECIALLY when he is the coach of your most hated rival.

It was just too good to be true. Their coach cried every single week.

ludo21 · 12-24-2005, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

I for one would hate to see the crying biatch leave. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better coach to pick on, ESPECIALLY when he is the coach of your most hated rival.

It was just too good to be true. Their coach cried every single week.

great point

Ahh well, we will just pick on the Chiefs team in general as usual!

Bronco Rob · 12-24-2005, 05:22 PM

"FLUSH!" Yet another turd season down the crapper in kc. Changing players, coaches hasn't helped the 36 year long drought in Mulletville USA.

Cubs, Clippers, Chefs.

terry251973 · 12-24-2005, 05:24 PM

ive heard tony dungy will give it up to.there will be alot of coaching jobs available next year.u guys think its about time kubiak gets a shot?i think he would make a good coach.

ludo21 · 12-24-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by terry251973

ive heard tony dungy will give it up to.there will be alot of coaching jobs available next year.u guys think its about time kubiak gets a shot?i think he would make a good coach.

Dungy giving up for his son

Wow, that is crzy.

Kubes wont get a shot because no one will wait for his as we will be in the SB

terry251973 · 12-24-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Dungy giving up for his son

Wow, that is crzy.

Kubes wont get a shot because no one will wait for his as we will be in the SB

ive already heard about dungy probably giving up coaching to be closer to his family.he has other things he wants to do than coach.

Bronco Rob · 12-24-2005, 05:28 PM

Herm Edwards is the hot rumor, along with Mrs. Doubtfire aka Mike Martz.

ludo21 · 12-24-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by terry251973

ive already heard about dungy probably giving up coaching to be closer to his family.he has other things he wants to do than coach.

that would be a big sacrifice indeed. But family is #1 as it should be. If my son(if i had one) killed himself, i definitely would attach myself at the others sides to make sure that it didnt happen again.

Bronco Rob · 12-24-2005, 05:36 PM

Agreed. Contrary to popular belief the NFL is just entertainment and to sell F-150s and beer, not life.

24champ · 12-24-2005, 11:53 PM

yup the chiefs have pre-ordered a bunch of tissue boxes for vermeil when he has his retirement press conference.

Broncoman13 · 12-25-2005, 12:02 AM

I've been hearing a lot of Pete Carrol rumors. I've also heard Stoops mentioned a couple times. I don't think either get the job though. Any NFL team that wants either of those cats is going to have to give up total control. Don't think King Karl will do that.

Clockwork Orange · 12-25-2005, 12:04 AM

So long as the tradition of zero accountability within the organization continues, I don't care if that sniveling b**** stays on as their head coach or not.

24champ · 12-25-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

So long as the tradition of zero accountability within the organization continues, I don't care if that sniveling b**** stays on as their head coach or not.

I really hope King Carl elects to promote Goonther!!!!

Clockwork Orange · 12-25-2005, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

I really hope King Carl elects to promote Goonther!!!!

Gunther will fix everything.

Rausch · 12-25-2005, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bpc

Combine that with departures of possibly Green, Roaf, Shields, Priest and GOONTHER and the Chiefs are starting over from scratch again... I love it. Thats like giving a cat a dead mouse to bat around. I love it. AND it couldn't happen to a better organization.

First, the only players likely to retire this year will be Shields and Holmes.

Shields is a big loss. He's a quality guy, great player, never injured, and he'll be missed. Replacing him will be near impossible, hopefully we can get a quality starter somewhere.

Seeing what Johnson can do losing Priest is not a loss on the football field. We'll miss him the same way you guys missed TD, he's been Chiefs football for years now, but LJ can more than carry the torch.

Roaf and Green have both stated they want to come back.I think they will depending on who the next HC will be. Unless the next HC wants to completely gut the team (which would be stupid) our entire offense minus Holmes and Shields will be back.

I can't see us falling out of the top 10 in offense based on the loss of one offensive lineman, no matter how good he is. Our production has gone UP with LJ running the ball.

The big problem will be defense. Our talent has been misused and we aren't seeing the level of production we should out of them. This is a young defense and the next DC MUST continue to add talent and find a better way to use the foundation (Surtain, D. Johnson, J. Allen, etc) that is in place.

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Originally Posted by bpc

KC = Oakland of 2003. Close to the great collapse... Chief fans can look at Oakland and feel like they are looking in the mirror. I love it.

This is laughable. There is no reason to expect a collapse at all. We'll only be missing one player, and that's an interior lineman.

RMT · 12-25-2005, 06:35 AM

I agree, the Chiefs are in trouble. Their offensive players are getting up there in age and the stop-gap attempts on defense are not the long-term fix they need to return to prominence. They'll be 9-7 next year.

elsid13 · 12-25-2005, 07:17 AM

I'm glad the King Carl there to "save" the chefs.

Darkhawk24 · 12-25-2005, 08:10 AM

As long as the Chiefs have Carl Peterson it doesn't matter who they hire as a coach.

Whomever he hires it will be someone he is able to push around. God love Carl Peterson!

Odysseus · 12-25-2005, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

The big problem will be defense. Our talent has been misused and we aren't seeing the level of production we should out of them. This is a young defense and the next DC MUST continue to add talent and find a better way to use the foundation (Surtain, D. Johnson, J. Allen, etc) that is in place.

This is laughable. There is no reason to expect a collapse at all. We'll only be missing one player, and that's an interior lineman.

---Good post. I think the Chiefs and Raiders are in the same position and lack leadership at the coaching level. To have both these jobs open in the AFCW kind of puts a strange competition in motion which could mean some pretty good guys get pulled into this. I tend to think it will help the Chiefs more than the Raiders just on
reputation.

---Laughable? Hardly. How did the Raiders go from AT THE SUPER BOWL to the worst team on record in this short a period of time? Did ALL the players suddenly go bad? Chiefs make the wrong moves in the off season and it will show quickly.

Rausch · 12-25-2005, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by quiettiger

---Good post. I think the Chiefs and Raiders are in the same position and lack leadership at the coaching level.

I think the problem is a lack of (defensive) leadership on the field.

We've lost Hasty, DT, and Neil Smith and have yet to add game-changing players to replace them.

You can't be a leader if you aren't also productive. DJ could be that player for us. Lord knows he's got the talent, but he's not going to be a guy everyone respects until he gets a probowl or two under his belt...

The Big E · 12-25-2005, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I think the problem is a lack of (defensive) leadership on the field.

Off the field leadership is excellent, however. Nobody in KC flips a better bird than Goonther. I still think Jake has him beat, though.

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12-24-2005, 04:57 PM	#1
ScottXray Opinionated A**** Love Me some PANCAKES!** Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: PDX (Portland OR) Posts: 4,663 Adopt-a-Bronco: J. D. Walton	Vermeil retires after the season..no matter what http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5195060 Vermeil gives it up....according to FOX Jay Glaser. also video of Vermeil crying after the chefs win.. on fox main page...haha.

12-24-2005, 05:00 PM	#2
orange crusher Predominately Orange Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,563	The beginning of the Kotite era in KC is only days away!

12-24-2005, 05:00 PM	#3
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	boohoooooo Cry me a WAAAAmbulance!! :vermiel: KC is just a different team at home, away from their, they just suck.

12-24-2005, 05:06 PM	#4
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Combine that with departures of possibly Green, Roaf, Shields, Priest and GOONTHER and the Chiefs are starting over from scratch again... I love it. Thats like giving a cat a dead mouse to bat around. I love it. AND it couldn't happen to a better organization. FORmeal is gone next year which also means KC's December home streak as well... almost guranteed we will be playing there in December and we will be winning. KC = Oakland of 2003. Close to the great collapse... Chief fans can look at Oakland and feel like they are looking in the mirror. I love it.

12-24-2005, 05:09 PM	#5
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	I for one would hate to see the crying biatch leave. I mean, you couldn't ask for a better coach to pick on, ESPECIALLY when he is the coach of your most hated rival. It was just too good to be true. Their coach cried every single week.

12-24-2005, 05:22 PM	#7
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	"FLUSH!" Yet another turd season down the crapper in kc. Changing players, coaches hasn't helped the 36 year long drought in Mulletville USA. Cubs, Clippers, Chefs.

12-24-2005, 05:24 PM	#8
terry251973 Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,048	ive heard tony dungy will give it up to.there will be alot of coaching jobs available next year.u guys think its about time kubiak gets a shot?i think he would make a good coach.

12-24-2005, 05:28 PM	#11
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Herm Edwards is the hot rumor, along with Mrs. Doubtfire aka Mike Martz.

12-24-2005, 05:36 PM	#13
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Agreed. Contrary to popular belief the NFL is just entertainment and to sell F-150s and beer, not life.

12-24-2005, 11:53 PM	#14
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,551 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	yup the chiefs have pre-ordered a bunch of tissue boxes for vermeil when he has his retirement press conference.

12-25-2005, 12:02 AM	#15
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	I've been hearing a lot of Pete Carrol rumors. I've also heard Stoops mentioned a couple times. I don't think either get the job though. Any NFL team that wants either of those cats is going to have to give up total control. Don't think King Karl will do that.

12-25-2005, 12:04 AM	#16
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	So long as the tradition of zero accountability within the organization continues, I don't care if that sniveling b**** stays on as their head coach or not.

12-25-2005, 06:35 AM	#20
RMT Rocky Mountain Thunder Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: United States Posts: 3,211	I agree, the Chiefs are in trouble. Their offensive players are getting up there in age and the stop-gap attempts on defense are not the long-term fix they need to return to prominence. They'll be 9-7 next year.

12-25-2005, 07:17 AM	#21
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,096	I'm glad the King Carl there to "save" the chefs.

12-25-2005, 08:10 AM	#22
Darkhawk24 Draft Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,552	As long as the Chiefs have Carl Peterson it doesn't matter who they hire as a coach. Whomever he hires it will be someone he is able to push around. God love Carl Peterson!