NYT: NSA Spying Broader Than Bush Admitted - The Orange Mane

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 12-23-2005, 10:20 PM

54 minutes ago

NEW YORK - The National Security Agency has conducted much broader surveillance of e-mails and phone calls — without court orders — than the Bush administration has acknowledged, The New York Times reported on its Web site.

The NSA, with help from American telecommunications companies, obtained access to streams of domestic and international communications, said the Times in the report late Friday, citing unidentified current and former government officials.

The story did not name the companies.

Since the Times disclosed the domestic spying program last week, President Bush has stressed that his executive order allowing the eavesdropping was limited to people with known links to al-Qaida.

But the Times said that NSA technicians have combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might lead to terrorists.

The volume of information harvested from telecommunications data and voice networks, without court-approved warrants, is much larger than the White House has acknowledged, the paper said, quoting an unnamed official.

The story quoted a former technology manager at a major telecommunications firm as saying that companies have been storing information on calling patterns since the Sept. 11 attacks, and giving it to the federal government. Neither the manager nor the company he worked for was identified.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051224/...omestic_spying

Bronco_Beerslug · 12-24-2005, 05:15 AM

The exact thing that this kind of illegal rights violations lead to. That's why people with any common sense know that these basic rights violations cannot be tolerated in any degree.

gunns · 12-24-2005, 06:31 AM

I guess we are fighting civil liberties over here so the terrorists don't have to.

12-23-2005, 10:20 PM	#1
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	NYT: NSA Spying Broader Than Bush Admitted 54 minutes ago NEW YORK - The National Security Agency has conducted much broader surveillance of e-mails and phone calls — without court orders — than the Bush administration has acknowledged, The New York Times reported on its Web site. The NSA, with help from American telecommunications companies, obtained access to streams of domestic and international communications, said the Times in the report late Friday, citing unidentified current and former government officials. The story did not name the companies. Since the Times disclosed the domestic spying program last week, President Bush has stressed that his executive order allowing the eavesdropping was limited to people with known links to al-Qaida. But the Times said that NSA technicians have combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might lead to terrorists. The volume of information harvested from telecommunications data and voice networks, without court-approved warrants, is much larger than the White House has acknowledged, the paper said, quoting an unnamed official. The story quoted a former technology manager at a major telecommunications firm as saying that companies have been storing information on calling patterns since the Sept. 11 attacks, and giving it to the federal government. Neither the manager nor the company he worked for was identified. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051224/...omestic_spying

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12-24-2005, 05:15 AM	#2
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	The exact thing that this kind of illegal rights violations lead to. That's why people with any common sense know that these basic rights violations cannot be tolerated in any degree.

12-24-2005, 06:31 AM	#3
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,648 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	I guess we are fighting civil liberties over here so the terrorists don't have to.