"Around the Horn"-Buy or Sell... - The Orange Mane

OrangeShadow · 12-16-2005, 06:26 AM

its kind of a fun game to play so...

Buy or sell Denver getting the #2 seed...

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-16-2005, 06:38 AM

Sell. Cincy has one tough game left @KC, and I don't like @SD or a primetime game in Buffalo.

DrFate · 12-16-2005, 06:40 AM

I'll buy. San Diego is overrated and we should beat BUF.

(We could very well lose to the Chargers, but they are no where as good as they hype the media has given them all year)

Lidderer · 12-16-2005, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFate

I'll buy. San Diego is overrated and we should beat BUF.

(We could very well lose to the Chargers, but they are no where as good as they hype the media has given them all year)

they pretty much beat us in denver in week 2. were it not for a herculean(rockafellian?) effort by our d in the 2nd half, that game was theirs.

5 losses by a combined 15 pts. That team is probably the greatest 8-5 or whatever team ever. just because the media hypes a team doesn't mean the team isn't worthy of it.

ro_50 · 12-16-2005, 07:09 AM

Great teams find a way to win the close games.

They are a good team but not that great, especially considering how bad the media butt kisses them

The Redskins have lost a lot of close games as well, but no one in the media is saying they are the greatest 7-6 team ever.

I think its a bunch of BS talk.

The Chargers are good, but come on, not GREAT.

They lost to the Dolphins at home in a must-win game.

Mile High Shack · 12-16-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lidderer

they pretty much beat us in denver in week 2. were it not for a herculean(rockafellian?) effort by our d in the 2nd half, that game was theirs.
5 losses by a combined 15 pts. That team is probably the greatest 8-5 or whatever team ever. just because the media hypes a team doesn't mean the team isn't worthy of it.

scoreboard says otherwise

Hotrod · 12-16-2005, 07:11 AM

I bought early in vegas of the Broncos winning the SB

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-16-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lidderer

they pretty much beat us in denver in week 2. were it not for a herculean(rockafellian?) effort by our d in the 2nd half, that game was theirs.

2 missed FGs, 2 red-zone turnovers and a TD called back (Putz's not DWill's) pretty much show that Denver tried to beat themselves.

DrFate · 12-16-2005, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lidderer

5 losses by a combined 15 pts. That team is probably the greatest 8-5 or whatever team ever. just because the media hypes a team doesn't mean the team isn't worthy of it.

The media has been slurping on this team all year. They are 2 years removed from a 4 win season. You don't go from 4-12 to 12-4 in a year without some breaks. I think the Chargers are a decent team, I think they are in a league with the Chefs. That said, I have seen this team play in person (I was at the Skins game) and the Skins had them beat. They are overrated.

I think they are good enough to play with most teams in this league, and they could certainly beat the Broncos if they play well (or if we play poorly). But calling them the greatest 8-5 team or the best team not to make the playoffs is silly.

Rock Chalk · 12-16-2005, 08:17 AM

Buy.

Cincy's game in KC is almost assured as a loss. KC's home record in December should be enough to confirm this.

Denver has really only one tough game and thats against SD who just lost at home to Miami.

Denver lost to Miami true, but I think we can all rest assured that the team that showed up in Week 1 is not the team that is fighting for the #2 seed right now. We match up with with SD IMO and while its possible that we lose, it won't matter. We will beat Buff and Jokeland and Cincy will drop the game to KC so in the end, it may not matter if we win or lose against SD.

Bronco_Beerslug · 12-16-2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Buy.

Cincy's game in KC is almost assured as a loss. KC's home record in December should be enough to confirm this.

Denver has really only one tough game and thats against SD who just lost at home to Miami.

Denver lost to Miami true, but I think we can all rest assured that the team that showed up in Week 1 is not the team that is fighting for the #2 seed right now. We match up with with SD IMO and while its possible that we lose, it won't matter. We will beat Buff and Jokeland and Cincy will drop the game to KC so in the end, it may not matter if we win or lose against SD.

I wouldn't pencil in a KC win over Cincy. If Cincy starts out fast KC may not be able to keep up.

watermock · 12-16-2005, 08:53 AM

Buy or Sell? Can I just Call?

manchambo · 12-16-2005, 08:55 AM

One thing to consider is the fact that San Diego will likely be out of playoff contention by the time we play them. I can't see them winning under those circumstances if the Broncos need the game.

Lidderer · 12-16-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

2 missed FGs, 2 red-zone turnovers and a TD called back (Putz's not DWill's) pretty much show that Denver tried to beat themselves.

it's odd how when a qb stops throwing ints he's lauded for doing a pro-bowl type job, and yet when teams don't make as many mistakes as their opponent they didn't win the game so much as the other team lost it.

SD beat themselves with that int to bailey. we were outplayed in that first-half, and thankfully that 2nd half dominance has translated into this wonderful season.

Lidderer · 12-16-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFate

I think they are good enough to play with most teams in this league, and they could certainly beat the Broncos if they play well (or if we play poorly). But calling them the greatest 8-5 team or the best team not to make the playoffs is silly.

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

dbfan4life · 12-16-2005, 09:00 AM

I'll buy. I think the Bengals just mailed it in with that retarded rap video.

elsid13 · 12-16-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

I bought early in vegas of the Broncos winning the SB

So did I, odds 30 to 1. Should have bet more money.

Mile High Shack · 12-16-2005, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lidderer

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

49ers of 1991 finished 10-6 and missed the post season

they were #3 in points scored and #4 in points allowed

they had a bad start and tore it up to end the season, the finished with 6 straight wins

| 1 | at New York Giants | L | 14-16 |
| 2 | San Diego Chargers | W | 34-14 |
| 3 | at Minnesota Vikings | L | 14-17 |
| 4 | Los Angeles Rams | W | 27-10 |
| 5 | at Los Angeles Raiders | L | 6-12 |
| 6 | bye |
| 7 | Atlanta Falcons | L | 34-39 |
| 8 | Detroit Lions | W | 35- 3 |
| 9 | at Philadelphia Eagles | W | 23- 7 |
| 10 | at Atlanta Falcons | L | 14-17 |
| 11 | at New Orleans Saints | L | 3-10 |
| 12 | Phoenix Cardinals | W | 14-10 |
| 13 | at Los Angeles Rams | W | 33-10 |
| 14 | New Orleans Saints | W | 38-24 |
| 15 | at Seattle Seahawks | W | 24-22 |
| 16 | Kansas City Chiefs | W | 28-14 |
| 17 | Chicago Bears | W | 52-14

Mile High Shack · 12-16-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dbfan4life

I'll buy. I think the Bengals just mailed it in with that retarded rap video.

talk about unleashing some bad mojo against your team

that was bad

Lidderer · 12-16-2005, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

49ers of 1991 finished 10-6 and missed the post season

they were #3 in points scored and #4 in points allowed

nice work, I stand corrected.

albeit they'd qualify for the playoffs under the new format. technically they were what, a wild card under new rules? or am i wrong about the advent of the expanded playoffs?

nonetheless, score 1 for milehigh shack.

also, what's this bengals rap video?

Mile High Shack · 12-16-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lidderer

nice work, I stand corrected.

albeit they'd qualify for the playoffs under the new format. technically they were what, a wild card under new rules? or am i wrong about the advent of the expanded playoffs?

nonetheless, score 1 for milehigh shack.

also, what's this bengals rap video?

regarding the video

MORE PRIME TIME: Forget the Bears’ Super Bowl Shuffle of 1985. When Sanders arrived on the scene four years later, he single-handedly married MTV and the NFL, and 16 years later they’re living happily ever after.

The Bengals officially went Prime Time on Friday as Cincinnati’s own funk legend Bootsy Collins took over Paul Brown Stadium to shoot a music video for the stadium scoreboards with the help of the players who wrote much of the song, “Fear Da Tiger.” Scott Simpson, executive producer of Jungle Vision Productions, oversaw the shoot that makes its debut in the Nov. 20 game against the Colts.

Collins, wearing a Carson Palmer jersey, got help from Duane Clemons, Ben Wilkerson and Stacy Andrews during the video. Clemons, the team’s self appointed “Director of Entertainment," is a fan of Collins dating back to his James Brown days, and gets a fairly long cameo rap in the video.

After the debut against the Colts, Collins and the video are going to be the subject of a feature on ESPN Hollywood at a date and time to be announced.

I think the 49ers of 1991 barely missed out on a wildcard, the wildcard was in effect that year

Rock Chalk · 12-16-2005, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I wouldn't pencil in a KC win over Cincy. If Cincy starts out fast KC may not be able to keep up.

Two words.

Arrowhead.
December

Rascal · 12-16-2005, 09:38 AM

I'd buy that I think.

I think we will lose to SD, but the bengals will lose to KC. I believe that means we would have the tiebreaker so we would get the #2 seed.

DrFate · 12-16-2005, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

can you name me a better 8-5 team this year? any year?

i'm honestly having a hard time thinking of a non-playoff team in recent memory that was as potent as this year's chargers. it's not just hyperbole.

The Broncos missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record in 1985.

DrFate · 12-16-2005, 09:59 AM

The Bolts aren't a bad team. They are a solid football club with some all-pro players.

They just aren't what some of the media pundits claim they are.

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12-16-2005, 06:38 AM	#2
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Sell. Cincy has one tough game left @KC, and I don't like @SD or a primetime game in Buffalo. Last edited by Hercules Rockefeller; 12-16-2005 at 06:44 AM..

12-16-2005, 06:40 AM	#3
DrFate Lord of Order Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tower of Fate Posts: 4,388	I'll buy. San Diego is overrated and we should beat BUF. (We could very well lose to the Chargers, but they are no where as good as they hype the media has given them all year)

12-16-2005, 07:09 AM	#5
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	Great teams find a way to win the close games. They are a good team but not that great, especially considering how bad the media butt kisses them The Redskins have lost a lot of close games as well, but no one in the media is saying they are the greatest 7-6 team ever. I think its a bunch of BS talk. The Chargers are good, but come on, not GREAT. They lost to the Dolphins at home in a must-win game.

12-16-2005, 07:11 AM	#7
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I bought early in vegas of the Broncos winning the SB

12-16-2005, 08:17 AM	#10
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Buy. Cincy's game in KC is almost assured as a loss. KC's home record in December should be enough to confirm this. Denver has really only one tough game and thats against SD who just lost at home to Miami. Denver lost to Miami true, but I think we can all rest assured that the team that showed up in Week 1 is not the team that is fighting for the #2 seed right now. We match up with with SD IMO and while its possible that we lose, it won't matter. We will beat Buff and Jokeland and Cincy will drop the game to KC so in the end, it may not matter if we win or lose against SD.

12-16-2005, 08:53 AM	#12
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Buy or Sell? Can I just Call?

12-16-2005, 08:55 AM	#13
manchambo Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,213	One thing to consider is the fact that San Diego will likely be out of playoff contention by the time we play them. I can't see them winning under those circumstances if the Broncos need the game.

12-16-2005, 09:00 AM	#16
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	I'll buy. I think the Bengals just mailed it in with that retarded rap video.

12-16-2005, 09:38 AM	#23
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	I'd buy that I think. I think we will lose to SD, but the bengals will lose to KC. I believe that means we would have the tiebreaker so we would get the #2 seed.

12-16-2005, 09:59 AM	#25
DrFate Lord of Order Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tower of Fate Posts: 4,388	The Bolts aren't a bad team. They are a solid football club with some all-pro players. They just aren't what some of the media pundits claim they are.