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Old 12-06-2005, 10:48 PM   #1
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we keep all the players we have now. I say Safety, Receiver, O-line, and then a speed rusher. I think we need a good Safety. I like Lynch and he is good but he is getting up there in the years and can be a liablity on deep passes. We have no speed at safety which doesnt make sense considering we have a such a fast defense our linebackers are literally faster then our safties. Brandon is faster but no burner, we have Lynch who runs a 4.75 and Fergie who runs a 4.65 which is faster then Kennedy(4.78) was but still is to slow we need that fast explosive safety. I thought Michael Lewis should have been picked a couple of years ago, but the Eagles got him instead. We need a speedy guy there this year and for the future.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:36 PM   #2
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Speed Rusher #1. Saftey #2. OG/OT #3. WR #3a.

Don't forget about Brandon Browner either. He's gonna be a player for us! I like him at FS.
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Speed Rusher #1. Saftey #2. OG/OT #3. WR #3a.

Don't forget about Brandon Browner either. He's gonna be a player for us! I like him at FS.


I would flip 2 and 3 around but thats just me. Here would be some ideas that I could live with.

1a). Kiwa
1b). Bing
2). Avent or Hass

1a). Holmes or Hagan
1b). Dumervil
2). Bullocks

I don't know the best place for Davin Joseph to go. He might be the best fit size wise for us at the guard spot though. Either way if we could land one of these guys (Kiwa, Holmes, Mario Williams, Bing, Hagan or Dumervil) I think we are doing well.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:24 AM   #4
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Based on what I have read and seen from Texas games I think Michael Huff would be a hell of a pick. I do agree on the 4 needs. DL, OL, S, WR. Does anybody know anything about Jovon Bouknight WR from Wyoming. The so called draft gurus write good stuff about him but I haven't seen any Wyoming games or highlights.
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Should Santonio Holmes´ size be a reason for concern?
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DT, FS, OL, a playmaker somewhere on offense
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Massive DT, FS, Speed Rush DE, OL and WR/TE (someone who could attack the middle of the field, sit in pockets and get 20 yard a pop and move the chains...)
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Based on what I have read and seen from Texas games I think Michael Huff would be a hell of a pick. I do agree on the 4 needs. DL, OL, S, WR. Does anybody know anything about Jovon Bouknight WR from Wyoming. The so called draft gurus write good stuff about him but I haven't seen any Wyoming games or highlights.
NOW you're talking!! Bouknight with a 5th round pick would be incredible, and would pay off in dividends compared to drafting some guy in the first round that would be a second rounder in most other drafts.

He's caught at least 2 passes in 36 consecutive games, leads the NCAA in that category...the big knock on him is his speed. From what I can tell he's probably in the high 4.4 to low 4.5 range, which is slow. But isn't that what everybody wants, a "possession" receiver? Plus, he's from Denver, so a hometown pick would be cool.

1a) Pass rushing DE....Kiwi, Williams, or Dumervil
1b) TE or OT...Davis, Lewis -or- Winston, Colledge
2) OT if we take a TE with previous, Safety Otherwise
3) RB DonTrell Moore (We always take a RB, and this one's perfect), maybe WR if Sinorice Moss is still avail.
4a) (From WASH) RB if not taken previously or OG/O-line depth
4b) OG/O-line depth if not previously, or WR like Bouknight
4c) (Compensatory-Kennedy) Kicker if the Buffs kicker comes out...probably not though, possibly a Special Teams type 'backer
5. Best available for what we didn't fill
6. Best available for what we didn't fill
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NOW you're talking!! Bouknight with a 5th round pick would be incredible, and would pay off in dividends compared to drafting some guy in the first round that would be a second rounder in most other drafts.

He's caught at least 2 passes in 36 consecutive games, leads the NCAA in that category...the big knock on him is his speed. From what I can tell he's probably in the high 4.4 to low 4.5 range, which is slow. But isn't that what everybody wants, a "possession" receiver? Plus, he's from Denver, so a hometown pick would be cool.

1a) Pass rushing DE....Kiwi, Williams, or Dumervil
1b) TE or OT...Davis, Lewis -or- Winston, Colledge
2) OT if we take a TE with previous, Safety Otherwise
3) RB DonTrell Moore (We always take a RB, and this one's perfect), maybe WR if Sinorice Moss is still avail.
4a) (From WASH) RB if not taken previously or OG/O-line depth
4b) OG/O-line depth if not previously, or WR like Bouknight
4c) (Compensatory-Kennedy) Kicker if the Buffs kicker comes out...probably not though, possibly a Special Teams type 'backer
5. Best available for what we didn't fill
6. Best available for what we didn't fill
We will get more comp picks then that.
Herndon 5 year 15 million dollar contract 5 million dollar bonus
KK 4 year 14 million dollar contract 4.4 million dollar bonus
Hayward 5 year 25 million dollar contract 10 million dollar bonus

Also if the Bluffs kicker comes out he will be a 2nd round pick. My guess to the Cowboys. He could be the greatest kicker ever coming out of college.
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Buffs kicker Crosby is staying in school
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For comp picks I am estimating two fourth rounders for Herndon and Kennedy, and a 3rd for Hayward. That sounds fair.
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Herndon is not eligible for a comp pick, he was an RFA.

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Herndon is not eligible for a comp pick, he was RFA.


Thats right and we "tagged" Walls or whatever the hell we did to him. That was a great move.
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Spragan was another UFA Denver lost, but you have to balance DS, KK, and RH with Alexander and I believe Dayne.
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Spragan was another UFA Denver lost, but you have to balance DS, KK, and RH with Alexander and I believe Dayne.
What do you think we will end up with? any gut feeling? 2 4ths maybe?
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What do you think we will end up with? any gut feeling? 2 4ths maybe?

I still think we get a third and a fourth but thats just me. Hey SoCal any guess to where Moss will go? With his brother having his best year and another short WR having a MVP type year do you think his stock will climb? I have him as a mid second round pick. Thoughts?
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What do you think we will end up with? any gut feeling? 2 4ths maybe?
I think RH will still stand on his own, Dayne (if he was a UFA) and Spragan will wash, and I'm not completely sure how it would go with SA and KK. Do they simply wash each other out, or does SA downgrade what KK would bring by himself?

I have no clue, 3rd and a 5th or 6th maybe.
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I still think we get a third and a fourth but thats just me. Hey SoCal any guess to where Moss will go? With his brother having his best year and another short WR having a MVP type year do you think his stock will climb? I have him as a mid second round pick. Thoughts?
I'd prolly throwup if we burned a second on him. I think he is a 4th round talent. Despite being small like his brother, he doesnt have the electricity, explosiveness, shiftyness, hops, consistency of a Santana Moss, although he is fast generally speaking. Also despite being small, Santana was very strong, which Sinorice isnt. I think Sinorice is a very late first day, or early 2nd day player. Mid 2nd round would be a major reach in my opinion. 4th Round.
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I think RH will still stand on his own, Dayne (if he was a UFA) and Spragan will wash, and I'm not completely sure how it would go with SA and KK. Do they simply wash each other out, or does SA downgrade what KK would bring by himself?

I have no clue, 3rd and a 5th or 6th maybe.
I would be happy with that. IIRC, around last year you said the player's salary is a big part of the formula, although the league doesnt specify everything they take into account. If thats true, it would seem that the loss of KK would be significantly greater than the addition of Alexander.
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I'd prolly throwup if we burned a second on him. I think he is a 4th round talent. Despite being small like his brother, he doesnt have the electricity, explosiveness, quickness, hops, consistency of a Santana Moss, although he is fast generally speaking. Also despite being small, Santana was very strong, which Sinorice isnt. I think Sinorice is a very late first day, or early 2nd day player. Mid 2nd round would be a major reach in my opinion. 4th Round.

I see. I thought he would move up in the draft. Something tells me he will have a very good 40 time but thats just a guess. I kind of was taking that into my thinking. He's on my list of WR's though. Personally I would rather draft Hass or Bouknight but I think Moss goes off the board before them. There are some WR's in the top ten ranking wise that I question, thats why I moved Moss up.

He is the good return guy right?

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I would be happy with that. IIRC, around last year you said the player's salary is a big part of the formula, although the league doesnt specify everything they take into account. If thats true, it would seem that the loss of KK would be significantly greater than the addition of Alexander.
Yep, that's why I'm not sure what they'll do because of the disparity in their deals. It's either a total wash or a partial wash, guess we'll know what they do for '07, just like we learned last year that signing players who were cut don't count in the "signed" category.
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I see. I thought he would move up in the draft. Something tells me he will have a very good 40 time but thats just a guess. I kind of was taking that into my thinking. He's on my list of WR's though. Personally I would rather draft Hass or Bouknight but I think Moss goes off the board before them. There are some WR's in the top ten ranking wise that I question, thats why I moved Moss up.

He is the good return guy right?
Hass does not have good measurables and I doubt he will run well so he will drop a little bit. He will probably be there in the middle of the draft despite being very, very productive and seemingly having "it". I havent heard about Bouknight before, who is he? BTW, is that BugEater TE Herian going to come out, or is he going to try and come back from that injury again and play another year?

I really, really want Samardjzia. I hope he comes out. He's probably my favorite recieving prospect in the entire draft.

And yes, Sinorice Moss can be a good returner (he has been on returns only occasionally though, mostly they have used Hester for that role), although if we are going to just burn a Day Two pick on an exclusive return demon, Bloom of Colorado is a more explosive option.
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Hass does not have good measurables and I doubt he will run well so he will drop a little bit. He will probably be there in the middle of the draft despite being very, very productive and seemingly having "it". I havent heard about Bouknight before, who is he? BTW, is that BugEater TE Herian going to come out, or is he going to try and come back from that injury again and play another year?

I really, really want Samardjzia. I hope he comes out. He's probably my favorite recieving prospect in the entire draft.

And yes, Sinorice Moss can be a good returner (he has been on returns only occasionally though, mostly they have used Hester for that role), although if we are going to just burn a Day Two pick on an exclusive return demon, Bloom of Colorado is a more explosive option.

Really you don't think Hass has good measurables? Bouknight is from went to college at Wyoming. He should be under the radar some. I believe he was born in the Denver area so it would be nice for him to come home. Here's his stats.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player...layerId=116535

Matt Herian should get a medical redshirt. From what I have read its a 50/50 chance he will even play again but from the sound of other he is running and progressing well. I doubt he will enter the draft this year and if he plays football again I doubt its at the level he was playing at before the injury. Its too bad though he was a very good TE. Can't say I know much about Samardjzia. My guy that I want is either Hagan or Hass but I think you know that .
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If we keep everyone (very unlikely I think), I feel they will go RB and WR in Round 1. MA is really getting up there, and we need that big time power element. White may be the pick or Maroney, due to his familiarity with a similar running system. Big possession WR at 1B. Weve been allocating alot of resources, both in terms of FA and the Draft the last few years for the Defense, I think there is going to be an infusion of talent on offense if we can keep that DL relatively intact and Lepsis stays onboard. The team knows Tater is not going to be a 20-25 carry per game back and he certainly isnt going to get a big payday here. They will continue to use him in his 10-15 per game role after wearing teams down with power. White would fill our power role extremely well.
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