The official "GO FLYERS" thread! - The Orange Mane

phillybroncosnut · 12-04-2005, 09:44 AM

Well Flyer fans, the news is not good right now. 3 of our top starters are out for the foreseeable future. Keith Primeau has been out since mid October and current news has him still suffering from "concussion like syptoms". That has me really concerned. Last time a concussion lasted this long, it was a guy wearing number 88. Keith needs to get healthy but let's not rush anything. I'd keep him out until the last month of the regular season and get him ready for the Playoffs. We all remember what he did the last time there was NHL playoff hockey. he had one of the most dominating playoff runs I've ever seen.

There are wispers that Robert Esche has a "sports hernia". Those are 2 of the dirtiest words around Philly this season. First the starting QB for the Egirls goes down to a sports hernia, and now, the starting Goalie goes down with the same injury. You thinks its tough being a QB with a sports hernia? A goalie may be the worst professions to be with that injury. Keep your fingers crossed that it's not a sports hernia. If it is, Esche could be gone for a LOOOONG time!

Peter Forsberg has now missed 4 games with his "slightly pulled groin". Me thinks it's more serious the slightly pulled. Foppa will be back soon though. Even if he's out an extended period of time, I have no doubt this Flyers/Phantoms team will keep pace in the east until he gets back.

We are a banged up team right now. Actually, we've been banged up all year and we have kept pace with everyone. It's amazing to see half of this lineup was in the minors last season, including the now starting Goalie, and we are still more then competitive. I can't wait till this teams gets 100% healthy.

GO FLYERS!!

Hogan11 · 12-04-2005, 09:59 AM

Cool idea for a thread Philly....there are a sizable enough group of Flyer fans here, so why not have our own thread for the team we support?

Primeau's absence has concerned me. To be out that long from a concussion is indeed odd. Now, I'm no doctor and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but concussions don't usually last this long do they? I'm starting to suspect maybe some other ailment that the team has not come public with. Whatever the case, we need him back ASAP.

I actually expected Forsberg to be out here and there over the course of the season...this doesn't surprise me in the least. Esche I've always had somewhat of a problem with, as I was never very impressed with the guy's play....he's one of those players who just bothers me for some reason....Of course I want him healthy, but even healthy I'm still not comfortable with him or Philly's goaltenders as a whole.

I do like how the team has held their ground despite the injuries....those kids from the Phantoms have been very impressive.....keep it up Boys!

phillybroncosnut · 12-04-2005, 10:13 AM

Here is the deal with Prim's. He didn't suffer a concussion per say. He started experiencing "concussion like symptoms" after a game in mid october. He was getting dizzy spells, headachs and vomiting. They kept him out as a precaution. Now, almost 2 months later, he is still having the same syptoms. That is not good!

I'm with you with Forsberg. there was zero doubt in my mind that he would bounce in and out of the lineup all year due to minor, nagging injuries. I just hope he doesn't suffer a major injury. I can deal with the expected Yo-Yo act during the regular season.

I've always like Esche. He isn't flashy but he wins games. He is the equivilant to Jake Plummer for the Broncos. He's not gonna wow anyone with number's or stunning play, but, he will, and has, gotten the job done.

The young guns have been fabulous. Mike Richards is gonna be a super player. Jeff Carter has been a slight disappointment to me. He has played solid but I expected a little bit more out of him offensively. RJ Umberger has been a pleasent surprise. He wasn't even on my radar when the season started. With all the injuries we've had he has stepped in tremendously for us.
Antero Nittymaki has been hot and cold. He has played great for the most part and then there are times where he looks way out of position.
He is still very young but I like what I see so far!

SoCalBronco · 12-04-2005, 10:48 AM

From what ive seen of him, Antero Nittymaki is pretty good, so you shouldnt have too much trouble in goal.

dbroncos31 · 12-04-2005, 01:44 PM

first off, GO FLYERS!!! but yeah, nittymaki is good, but esche is amazing. he is a very underrated goalie...crap...plummer just got picked god dammit...and we need esche. also, primeau was our team against TB so we need him healthy, at least for the playoffs. and forseberg and gagne are our team, and w/o forsberg, gagne isnt the same

phillybroncosnut · 12-06-2005, 09:26 AM

Good news and bad news Flyer fans......

Good News:
Robert Esche does NOT have a sports hernia. He has a slight tear in his groin (same as Peter). He should be good to go in a week or two.

Bad News:
Joni Pitkanen will miss up to 6 weeks with an athletic pubalgia (fancy word for Sports Hernia). This one really hurts. Joni has been our second best defensman this season. He will surely be missed.

Update on Primeau:
He is feeling better and moving around. He hasn't been on skates yet but his "feeling alot better" is a sign of improvement.

Flyers take on the Flames tonight at the FUC...... Not a good matchup with our current injury status. however, this team has played great considering the injuries and I expect us to stay with the Flames tonight.
I see an OT game tonight.

Hogan11 · 12-06-2005, 04:46 PM

Pitty is out for 6 weeks?

THAT SUCKS!!!

GO FLYERS!

Clockwork Orange · 12-06-2005, 05:18 PM

I also heard that they said during the Flyers broadcast tonight that Forsberg's groin injury is worse than originally anticipated. They said he may have a partial tear. Hopefully it's not that serious, but you never know with Forsberg.

phillybroncosnut · 12-07-2005, 09:09 AM

Okay.... Like I called it in the previous post, the Flyers took a very good Falmes team into OT and came away with a 1-0 shootout victory. Pretty impressive for Nitty to shut out the high powered Flames. Not only did he shut them out, he stopped all 3 shootout attempts.
Great win for the Flyers.

Here is something that should impress all hockey fans that do not follow the Flyers. The Flyers current roster is playing with 8, that's EIGHT rookies, including the Goalie. Now, I was excited about this team with the likes of Forsberg, Primeau, Gagne etc..... However, I am even more excited about this franchise's future. I'm not sure how this team is staying with and beating upper echelon teams with 8 rookie's but, somehow they are.

On to more bad news......

Eric Desjardins got hurt last night. no news from my end on the injury but he took a mean hit last night and appears to have injured his shoulder or elbow. The injury bug has reared it's ugly head again Flyer fans. Never fear though, we'll just call up another stud rookie.

phillybroncosnut · 12-07-2005, 03:52 PM

WOW!!!!

When it rains, it surely does pour Flyer fans! Bad news on Desjardins:

"
Desjardins is helped off of the ice by McCrossin during Tuesday's game against Calgary
Flyers defenseman Eric Desjardins will miss the next eight-to-10 weeks with a right shoulder injury, according to Flyers Athletic Trainer and Strength and Conditioning Coach, Jim McCrossin. Desjardins will have surgery to repair the shoulder at Hahnemann Hospital on Tuesday, December 13.

Desjardins left Tuesday's 1-0 shootout win over Calgary in the first period and did not return.

In 18 games with the Flyers this season, Desjardins has two goals and 12 assists for 14 points 18 penalty minutes.

Below is the transcript of the conversation with McCrossin.

What is the medical update on Eric Desjardins?
Jim McCrossin: “Eric Desjardins had an MRI today. Following the MRI, he was evaluated by Dr. Peter DeLuca. The MRI revealed that Eric did have a posterior subluxation of his humoral head. (subluxation refers to a partial loss of the Glenohumeral joint articulation to the extent that symptoms were produced or damage was done. A dislocation is when a complete loss of articulation between the humeral head and glenoid socket occur). When the injury occured it tore both the posteral labrum and the inferior border of the Glenohumeral ligament. After Dr. DeLuca performed his evaluation and reviewed the MRI study it was decided that Eric would require surgery. The surgery is going to be performed by Dr. DeLuca and will take place at Hahnemann Hospital on Tuesday, December 13. We are looking for Eric to miss approximately eight-to-10 weeks."

In layman’s terms, was this a shoulder separation or a shoulder dislocation?
JM: “This was a posterior shoulder subluxation, which in layman's terms means that Eric has a sprain of his right shoulder and will require surgery to repair the instability that was caused by the injury."

http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pr...chive/2327.asp

Al Wilson · 12-07-2005, 08:45 PM

The Flyers blow.

The cup is coming back North.

Bronx33 · 12-07-2005, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson

The Flyers blow.

The cup is coming back North.

If the avs don't get it

i would love to see a canadian team win it, i always root for a canadian teams in the playoffs.

Hogan11 · 12-08-2005, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by phillybroncosnut

Okay.... Like I called it in the previous post, the Flyers took a very good Falmes team into OT and came away with a 1-0 shootout victory. Pretty impressive for Nitty to shut out the high powered Flames. Not only did he shut them out, he stopped all 3 shootout attempts.
Great win for the Flyers.

Here is something that should impress all hockey fans that do not follow the Flyers. The Flyers current roster is playing with 8, that's EIGHT rookies, including the Goalie. Now, I was excited about this team with the likes of Forsberg, Primeau, Gagne etc..... However, I am even more excited about this franchise's future. I'm not sure how this team is staying with and beating upper echelon teams with 8 rookie's but, somehow they are.

On to more bad news......

Eric Desjardins got hurt last night. no news from my end on the injury but he took a mean hit last night and appears to have injured his shoulder or elbow. The injury bug has reared it's ugly head again Flyer fans. Never fear though, we'll just call up another stud rookie.

Terrible news about Desjardins....the injury bug has a hard on for this team it appears. I am impressed with the kids holding it together. Everytime I've seen Nitty in goal (granted that hasn't been much yet this season) I really wasn't floored by him, but I must catch him on an off night or something (like Esche whenever the Flyers get shown in my area).

Just gotta keep it held together by rookies and duct tape till some of the guys can make it back....they've been doing well thus far, just gotta keep shining it on......GO FLYERS!!!!

phillybroncosnut · 12-08-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

If the avs don't get it

i would love to see a canadian team win it, i always root for a canadian teams in the playoffs.

I could NEVER cheer for a team from Can'tada!

phillybroncosnut · 12-08-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

Terrible news about Desjardins....the injury bug has a hard on for this team it appears. I am impressed with the kids holding it together. Everytime I've seen Nitty in goal (granted that hasn't been much yet this season) I really wasn't floored by him, but I must catch him on an off night or something (like Esche whenever the Flyers get shown in my area).

Just gotta keep it held together by rookies and duct tape till some of the guys can make it back....they've been doing well thus far, just gotta keep shining it on......GO FLYERS!!!!

It's not even duct tape at this point bro. We have the best minor league system in the land. These guys come up and play very well together. This is a very rare thing in all of sports that we are witnessing.
Think about it...... 8 Rookies in the lineup every night. That's amazing! 95 man games missed for the Flyers already this season. That's an astounding 3 starters out for every game we've played and we are still 10 games over .500 (16-6-4).
This team is not only set up to make a run for the Cup this season, we are also set up to make a run for the next 10 seasons.

phillybroncosnut · 12-08-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Wilson

The Flyers blow.

The cup is coming back North.

Wow..... That smack looks exactly like the kind of smack we see from KC trolls.

Congrats d!ckhead!

phillybroncosnut · 12-08-2005, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I also heard that they said during the Flyers broadcast tonight that Forsberg's groin injury is worse than originally anticipated. They said he may have a partial tear. Hopefully it's not that serious, but you never know with Forsberg.

Yeah. I guess I should have posted that news. Forsberg indeed has a slight tear in the groin muscle. They (the Flyers) are obviously gonna take their time getting Peter back. Groins are funny. If you rush back, you could completely tear the muscle and be done for the year. These type injuries need time. No use rushing him back. Especially when you consider how well the young boys have been playing!

Al Wilson · 12-08-2005, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillybroncosnut

Wow..... That smack looks exactly like the kind of smack we see from KC trolls.

Congrats d!ckhead!

You have no right to talk smack. The Sens own the Flyers, a-hole

Hogan11 · 12-08-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson

You have no right to talk smack. The Sens own the Flyers, a-hole

Really? They face 4 times this year and the Flyers took the first (and only) game thus far on Ottawa ice 5-3.... based on that, I'd say you're the one that has no right to be talkin' smack in a Flyers thread.

Al Wilson · 12-08-2005, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogan11

Really? They face 4 times this year and the Flyers took the first game on Ottawa ice 5-3....thus far, I'd say you're the one that has no right to be talkin' smack in a Flyers thread.

Right.

1 game, and the Flyers are good now?

The Sens have always kicked your ass just when Lalime (that's right) owned you in the playoffs LMAO.

Hogan11 · 12-08-2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Wilson

Right.

1 game, and the Flyers are good now?

The Sens have always kicked your ass just when Lalime (that's right) owned you in the playoffs LMAO.

It's a what have you done for me lately world and a new season....your 0-1 against the Flyers this year, deal with it.

Al Wilson · 12-08-2005, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogan11

It's a what have you done for me lately world and a new season....your 0-1 against the Flyers this year, deal with it.

Deal with what?

We're kicking ass in this league.

Wow, the Sens lost 1 game

Buddy, we're first in the east and are what 8 points above Philly with least games played ?

The Flyers were lucky that was the Sens back to back game when they faced us.

So don't get ahead of yourself and look at the standing, and ass whooooping the Sens handed to your stinking Flyers in the playoffs.

Bronx33 · 12-08-2005, 07:42 PM

SHG killed the flyers tonight but they did fight back just not enought time left..

phillybroncosnut · 12-09-2005, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogan11

It's a what have you done for me lately world and a new season....your 0-1 against the Flyers this year, deal with it.

Hog, save your time bro. Just put this dumbass on ignore. He brings zero to the table as far as hockey talk goes. he reminds me of the 12 year old trolls that talk chit about the Broncos. "My team is better then your's", "your team sux, my team is great".
Out of one side of his mouth, he talks about something that happened 4 years ago. out of the other side of his mouth, he makes excuses as to why the Flyers beat his frog assed team. If he was a normal fan, someone who could bring something to the table like Clockwork Orange, Bronx, Socal, ames, etc, he'd be worth debating.
Leave this frog loving scum alone and lets talk real hockey. No sense letting a troll hijack this thread.
The ignore feature works wonders when you need it to.

Crowpointer · 12-09-2005, 10:51 AM

Rumor has it the B's are looking to fire sale some more good players. Joe Thornton is no longer available .However we will probably be trading Samsonov or Glen Murray for little or nothing in return as our lame duck GM guts a once proud franchise.

12-04-2005, 09:44 AM	#1
phillybroncosnut Ring of Famer The HOF is BLIND!!! Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,955	The official "GO FLYERS" thread! Well Flyer fans, the news is not good right now. 3 of our top starters are out for the foreseeable future. Keith Primeau has been out since mid October and current news has him still suffering from "concussion like syptoms". That has me really concerned. Last time a concussion lasted this long, it was a guy wearing number 88. Keith needs to get healthy but let's not rush anything. I'd keep him out until the last month of the regular season and get him ready for the Playoffs. We all remember what he did the last time there was NHL playoff hockey. he had one of the most dominating playoff runs I've ever seen. There are wispers that Robert Esche has a "sports hernia". Those are 2 of the dirtiest words around Philly this season. First the starting QB for the Egirls goes down to a sports hernia, and now, the starting Goalie goes down with the same injury. You thinks its tough being a QB with a sports hernia? A goalie may be the worst professions to be with that injury. Keep your fingers crossed that it's not a sports hernia. If it is, Esche could be gone for a LOOOONG time! Peter Forsberg has now missed 4 games with his "slightly pulled groin". Me thinks it's more serious the slightly pulled. Foppa will be back soon though. Even if he's out an extended period of time, I have no doubt this Flyers/Phantoms team will keep pace in the east until he gets back. We are a banged up team right now. Actually, we've been banged up all year and we have kept pace with everyone. It's amazing to see half of this lineup was in the minors last season, including the now starting Goalie, and we are still more then competitive. I can't wait till this teams gets 100% healthy. GO FLYERS!!

12-04-2005, 10:13 AM	#3
phillybroncosnut Ring of Famer The HOF is BLIND!!! Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,955	Here is the deal with Prim's. He didn't suffer a concussion per say. He started experiencing "concussion like symptoms" after a game in mid october. He was getting dizzy spells, headachs and vomiting. They kept him out as a precaution. Now, almost 2 months later, he is still having the same syptoms. That is not good! I'm with you with Forsberg. there was zero doubt in my mind that he would bounce in and out of the lineup all year due to minor, nagging injuries. I just hope he doesn't suffer a major injury. I can deal with the expected Yo-Yo act during the regular season. I've always like Esche. He isn't flashy but he wins games. He is the equivilant to Jake Plummer for the Broncos. He's not gonna wow anyone with number's or stunning play, but, he will, and has, gotten the job done. The young guns have been fabulous. Mike Richards is gonna be a super player. Jeff Carter has been a slight disappointment to me. He has played solid but I expected a little bit more out of him offensively. RJ Umberger has been a pleasent surprise. He wasn't even on my radar when the season started. With all the injuries we've had he has stepped in tremendously for us. Antero Nittymaki has been hot and cold. He has played great for the most part and then there are times where he looks way out of position. He is still very young but I like what I see so far! Last edited by phillybroncosnut; 12-04-2005 at 10:55 AM..

12-04-2005, 10:48 AM	#4
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12-04-2005, 09:59 AM	#2
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Cool idea for a thread Philly....there are a sizable enough group of Flyer fans here, so why not have our own thread for the team we support? Primeau's absence has concerned me. To be out that long from a concussion is indeed odd. Now, I'm no doctor and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, but concussions don't usually last this long do they? I'm starting to suspect maybe some other ailment that the team has not come public with. Whatever the case, we need him back ASAP. I actually expected Forsberg to be out here and there over the course of the season...this doesn't surprise me in the least. Esche I've always had somewhat of a problem with, as I was never very impressed with the guy's play....he's one of those players who just bothers me for some reason....Of course I want him healthy, but even healthy I'm still not comfortable with him or Philly's goaltenders as a whole. I do like how the team has held their ground despite the injuries....those kids from the Phantoms have been very impressive.....keep it up Boys!

12-04-2005, 01:44 PM	#5
dbroncos31 Ring of Famer RIP D-Will Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Garrison NY Posts: 1,679	first off, GO FLYERS!!! but yeah, nittymaki is good, but esche is amazing. he is a very underrated goalie...crap...plummer just got picked god dammit...and we need esche. also, primeau was our team against TB so we need him healthy, at least for the playoffs. and forseberg and gagne are our team, and w/o forsberg, gagne isnt the same

12-06-2005, 09:26 AM	#6
phillybroncosnut Ring of Famer The HOF is BLIND!!! Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,955	Good news and bad news Flyer fans...... Good News: Robert Esche does NOT have a sports hernia. He has a slight tear in his groin (same as Peter). He should be good to go in a week or two. Bad News: Joni Pitkanen will miss up to 6 weeks with an athletic pubalgia (fancy word for Sports Hernia). This one really hurts. Joni has been our second best defensman this season. He will surely be missed. Update on Primeau: He is feeling better and moving around. He hasn't been on skates yet but his "feeling alot better" is a sign of improvement. Flyers take on the Flames tonight at the FUC...... Not a good matchup with our current injury status. however, this team has played great considering the injuries and I expect us to stay with the Flames tonight. I see an OT game tonight.

12-06-2005, 04:46 PM	#7
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Pitty is out for 6 weeks? THAT SUCKS!!! GO FLYERS!

12-06-2005, 05:18 PM	#8
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	I also heard that they said during the Flyers broadcast tonight that Forsberg's groin injury is worse than originally anticipated. They said he may have a partial tear. Hopefully it's not that serious, but you never know with Forsberg.

12-07-2005, 09:09 AM	#9
phillybroncosnut Ring of Famer The HOF is BLIND!!! Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,955	Okay.... Like I called it in the previous post, the Flyers took a very good Falmes team into OT and came away with a 1-0 shootout victory. Pretty impressive for Nitty to shut out the high powered Flames. Not only did he shut them out, he stopped all 3 shootout attempts. Great win for the Flyers. Here is something that should impress all hockey fans that do not follow the Flyers. The Flyers current roster is playing with 8, that's EIGHT rookies, including the Goalie. Now, I was excited about this team with the likes of Forsberg, Primeau, Gagne etc..... However, I am even more excited about this franchise's future. I'm not sure how this team is staying with and beating upper echelon teams with 8 rookie's but, somehow they are. On to more bad news...... Eric Desjardins got hurt last night. no news from my end on the injury but he took a mean hit last night and appears to have injured his shoulder or elbow. The injury bug has reared it's ugly head again Flyer fans. Never fear though, we'll just call up another stud rookie.

12-07-2005, 03:52 PM	#10
phillybroncosnut Ring of Famer The HOF is BLIND!!! Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,955	WOW!!!! When it rains, it surely does pour Flyer fans! Bad news on Desjardins: " Desjardins is helped off of the ice by McCrossin during Tuesday's game against Calgary Flyers defenseman Eric Desjardins will miss the next eight-to-10 weeks with a right shoulder injury, according to Flyers Athletic Trainer and Strength and Conditioning Coach, Jim McCrossin. Desjardins will have surgery to repair the shoulder at Hahnemann Hospital on Tuesday, December 13. Desjardins left Tuesday's 1-0 shootout win over Calgary in the first period and did not return. In 18 games with the Flyers this season, Desjardins has two goals and 12 assists for 14 points 18 penalty minutes. Below is the transcript of the conversation with McCrossin. What is the medical update on Eric Desjardins? Jim McCrossin: “Eric Desjardins had an MRI today. Following the MRI, he was evaluated by Dr. Peter DeLuca. The MRI revealed that Eric did have a posterior subluxation of his humoral head. (subluxation refers to a partial loss of the Glenohumeral joint articulation to the extent that symptoms were produced or damage was done. A dislocation is when a complete loss of articulation between the humeral head and glenoid socket occur). When the injury occured it tore both the posteral labrum and the inferior border of the Glenohumeral ligament. After Dr. DeLuca performed his evaluation and reviewed the MRI study it was decided that Eric would require surgery. The surgery is going to be performed by Dr. DeLuca and will take place at Hahnemann Hospital on Tuesday, December 13. We are looking for Eric to miss approximately eight-to-10 weeks." In layman’s terms, was this a shoulder separation or a shoulder dislocation? JM: “This was a posterior shoulder subluxation, which in layman's terms means that Eric has a sprain of his right shoulder and will require surgery to repair the instability that was caused by the injury." http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pr...chive/2327.asp

12-07-2005, 08:45 PM	#11
Al Wilson Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 938	The Flyers blow. The cup is coming back North.

12-08-2005, 07:42 PM	#23
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	SHG killed the flyers tonight but they did fight back just not enought time left..