113005 Chiefs season - Prediction - The Orange Mane

Odysseus · 11-30-2005, 04:12 AM

Good Morning Chiefs fans,

This is your wake up call.

Home vs Den - 9-2
Home vs SD - 7-4
Away vs Dallas - 7-4
Away vs NYG - 7-4
Home vs CIN - 8-3

There is no way the Chiefs are winning three of the next games. Your whole season depends on you beating the Broncos. The Broncos can drop that game and still be in a pretty good spot. If Chiefs lose then the Broncos have essentially kicked them into the coffin and it's all over boys.

Broncos fans get accused of deflection by Chiefs fans all the time. If you are role model for consistent behaviour and the absolute bearer of knowledge then I would like you to bring into our humble Bronco world your wisdom of what you see to come for the Kansas City's season.

Not that it matters!

redrage · 11-30-2005, 04:58 AM

If it's ok with you I'll wait until KC losses two games before declaring their season over. Despite what Denver fans wish to believe, the defense is improving and hopefully the return of Sims will give some depth along the defensive line they've been needing. Offensively, the NE was the first time all year that the starting O-line from last season played together and they did a pretty good job against what I consider one of the best D-lines in the NFL. They'll have to improve, but it's miles better than what was there nearly all year.

I don't have any reason to believe KC can't pull out every single on of their homes games. That leaves trying to get a road win at NYG or Dallas and admittedly tough task---but hardley impossible. I'd kind of like to see the Cowboys win a big game against the Giants this weekeend and have an emotional letdown when KC comes calling.

BTW the schedule is:

Denver
at Dallas
at NYG
SD
Cincy

Odysseus · 11-30-2005, 06:22 AM

That was a very positive and smart fan take. Well done.

So...I guess 50% of your percieved season is this Sunday. Wow. HUGE game.

I hate to wake anybody up to the truth but despite the Patriots stinking up the place Chiefs played some very good defense. Brady is very accurate and just doesn't toss that many unprovoked interceptions. They came with a lot of heat and a presence and seem intent on getting back into it.

If the Broncos win it don't see it by more than 3 points as the Chiefs really have improved on Defense. The Broncos have to play with intensity and I don't know if they are going to want it as badly. Dallas and Giants however are going to just punish the Cheifs.

Thanks for a solid post.

Odysseus · 11-30-2005, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by redrage

BTW the schedule is:

Denver
at Dallas
at NYG
SD
Cincy

Stupid cut and paste. I shouldn't have trusted a fellow Broncos fan to get that sort of vital information right!!

(Name withheld due to trying not to thread steal a thread stole by Boob the magnificent.

Drek · 11-30-2005, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by quiettiger

That was a very positive and smart fan take. Well done.

So...I guess 50% of your percieved season is this Sunday. Wow. HUGE game.

I hate to wake anybody up to the truth but despite the Patriots stinking up the place Chiefs played some very good defense. Brady is very accurate and just doesn't toss that many unprovoked interceptions. They came with a lot of heat and a presence and seem intent on getting back into it.

Brady's 4 picks were as much the result of poor WR play than his own mistakes. He overthrew Branch three times, once so badly Wesley looked like the target. The other two times though Branch got his hands on it only to knock it up in the air and basically set the Chiefs up with a pick. Tim Dwight did the same with the pass thrown slightly behind him for the last pick. The Chiefs did a good job pressuring Bradly, but he's playing behind the worst OL he's had in his career, and his WRs didn't make any plays to help him out.

Also, the Pats DL has been pretty mediocre this year. Largely because Seymour hasn't been healthy, and his ability to dominate on the strong end is a key to their success. He hasn't been the Richard Seymour of the last few years since getting back from his injury, and its really hurting the Pats D, not to mention how far down the depth chart they've gone for DBs.

I live in Maine and watch the Pats every week (my second favorite team). They are a bad team this year. They'll make the playoffs because the AFC East is so bad, but they won't scare anyone unless they undergo some major metamorphosis.

To me the Chiefs need to beat the Broncos this Sunday. Not even from a divisional standpoint, but as a statement game that they can defend home field against strong teams. Taking the divison will be hard for them regardless, being down 2 games with 5 to go and the Chargers sitting in the same position. A wild card spot is very possible, but they need to control home field to have any chances.

redrage · 11-30-2005, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Drek

To me the Chiefs need to beat the Broncos this Sunday. Not even from a divisional standpoint, but as a statement game that they can defend home field against strong teams. Taking the divison will be hard for them regardless, being down 2 games with 5 to go and the Chargers sitting in the same position. A wild card spot is very possible, but they need to control home field to have any chances.

Yes, despite getting the win against a division rival, that is what is at stake this Sunday. A win by KC and I start to think they might be able to get to 11-5. But a loss, while not technically eliminating them, doesn't bode well for running the table, which they would have to do IMHO.

Odysseus · 11-30-2005, 07:05 AM

A bob free thread? Does such a thing exist?

Paladin · 11-30-2005, 07:12 AM

GDI!!! Shut up. Maybe there can be thread of useful dialogue without that pu**y coming here and playing with his wood. He is as much of a real dog's butt as I have ever seen or read, although most mullet fans are like that....

NaptownChief · 11-30-2005, 07:13 AM

With the schedule we have to finish the season I'm not expecting a pretty result but nobody knows until if plays out. Nobody expected the Donks to go 8-1 after looking like the Houston Texans in week 1 against the Dolphins either but yet here they are at 9-2. I expect the Chiefs to probably go 3-2 in the final 5 games and be sitting at 10-6 hoping for some help to get a wild card spot when all said and done.

Chief Red Pants · 11-30-2005, 07:20 AM

Honestly, if there's any hope for the Chiefs to sniff the post season they must go 4-1 and win all the AFC games (Denver, Sandy Eggo, & the 'Nati).

NaptownChief · 11-30-2005, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Red Pants

Honestly, if there's any hope for the Chiefs to sniff the post season they must go 4-1 and win all the AFC games (Denver, Sandy Eggo, & the 'Nati).

I don't think so...3-2 will get it done as long as one of those 3 wins comes from SD. A loss to Cincy probably allows them to win their division which takes them out of the wild card fight. A loss to Denver hurts momentum but in the big picture they probably have the division wrapped up baring a Shula like collapse. Sandy Eggo is key. They will be fighting with us for a wild card and a loss to them pretty much gives them all trump power. Sandy Eggo has KC, Den and Indy left so as long as we beat them head to head we can count on at least one more loss to Indy and the Donks if not both.

Chief Red Pants · 11-30-2005, 07:31 AM

I think Chiefs at Dallas will be very telling. Our ability to beat a good team in their house is critical this time of the year. I'm not real hopeful though.

brncs_fan · 11-30-2005, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Sandy Eggo has KC, Den and Indy left so as long as we beat them head to head we can count on at least one more loss to Indy and the Donks if not both.

We don't play San Diego until week 17. If we play the starters at all past the first half, it will be a very conservative game. My guess is that SD would probably win by virtue of playing our JV team for a half.

NaptownChief · 11-30-2005, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

We don't play San Diego until week 17. If we play the starters at all past the first half, it will be a very conservative game. My guess is that SD would probably win by virtue of playing our JV team for a half.

I thought about that and certainly a concern...Other possible concern is them playing the Colts in week 15. If you guys lose another before week 15 then a good chance they trot out their JV squad also.

If we beat you guys then it will probably give us a good chance that you need the win against SD to lock up the division so that in reality makes this game probably just as important as the Sandy Eggo game in a round about way.

Needa Pass Rush · 11-30-2005, 08:05 AM

This is a thread that will be pulled up after the season. So much can happen in the last 5 weeks. It's obviously an advantage to be in control. Let's hope the Broncos don't lose that edge.

NaptownChief · 11-30-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Needa Pass Rush

This is a thread that will be pulled up after the season. So much can happen in the last 5 weeks. It's obviously an advantage to be in control. Let's hope the Broncos don't lose that edge.

Definitely only takes the Bolts and Chiefs taking care of things at home to make this a 3 way dog fight and we all know the Bolts and Chiefs will be doing everything in their power to try and make that the case. Under normal circumstances I would say it was wide open with you guys having to go to KC and SD yet but with KC and SD both having very tough closing schedules and you guys having Oak, Balt and Buff as your other three games it makes it more than unlikely.

Mile High Shack · 11-30-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Definitely only takes the Bolts and Chiefs taking care of things at home to make this a 3 way dog fight and we all know the Bolts and Chiefs will be doing everything in their power to try and make that the case. Under normal circumstances I would say it was wide open with you guys having to go to KC and SD yet but with KC and SD both having very tough closing schedules and you guys having Oak, Balt and Buff as your other three games it makes it more than unlikely.

I think we'll lose 2 more games and finish 12-4

it's going to be awfully hard for the Chiefs and chargers not to lose another game from here on out

redrage · 11-30-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

I think we'll lose 2 more games and finish 12-4

it's going to be awfully hard for the Chiefs and chargers not to lose another game from here on out

Not according to SD fans. Go visit their site and they all feel that 12-4 is entirely possible and 11-5 in the bank (only loss MAYBE to Indy).

brncs_fan · 11-30-2005, 08:35 AM

Am I the only one not sold on the Chiefs ability to beat a productive winning team?

They have had a cupcake schedule and have lost to a pretty weak opponent (ie. Buffalo) and gave a sure win in Philly at home. Sure they beat NE last weak, but they are so far gone from what they were.

KC has hard games coming up including 2 on the road against the two teams tied for first in the second tounghest division in football (Giants, Cowboys).

KC will not make the playoffs this year (sorry if this turns it into a smack thread).

kappys · 11-30-2005, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I thought about that and certainly a concern...Other possible concern is them playing the Colts in week 15. If you guys lose another before week 15 then a good chance they trot out their JV squad also.

If we beat you guys then it will probably give us a good chance that you need the win against SD to lock up the division so that in reality makes this game probably just as important as the Sandy Eggo game in a round about way.

Not if the Colts are undefeated. I suspect they will keep Peyton out there if the possiblity of stats or a record are on the line.

brncs_fan · 11-30-2005, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

If we beat you guys then it will probably give us a good chance that you need the win against SD to lock up the division so that in reality makes this game probably just as important as the Sandy Eggo game in a round about way.

Problem with this though is that you will need a win against SD to stay in the hunt. That gives them 2 div. losses. Even if we loose to them we get them on the fact that we have a better conference record then them. That is assuming that we loose to KC on Sunday.

Mile High Shack · 11-30-2005, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

Am I the only one not sold on the Chiefs ability to beat a productive winning team?

They have had a cupcake schedule and have lost to a pretty weak opponent (ie. Buffalo) and gave a sure win in Philly at home. Sure they beat NE last weak, but they are so far gone from what they were.

KC has hard games coming up including 2 on the road against the two teams tied for first in the second tounghest division in football (Giants, Cowboys).

KC will not make the playoffs this year (sorry if this turns it into a smack thread).

at home in December the chiefs are good, no matter their overall record

so I don't discount them at home, their HFA is the best in the NFL right now I think

but those 2 games in Dallas and New York could be their undoing

NaptownChief · 11-30-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

Am I the only one not sold on the Chiefs ability to beat a productive winning team?

They have had a cupcake schedule and have lost to a pretty weak opponent (ie. Buffalo) and gave a sure win in Philly at home. Sure they beat NE last weak, but they are so far gone from what they were.

Wins are wins in the NFL...It is easy to critque and pick apart just about anyones schedule. For instance Denvers quality wins are SD and KC but both were at home and way back in week 2 and 3. Outside of that we are left with the OT squeaker in Dallas and a decent win in Jax. That is before we mention the embarrassing loss to the Phins.

Knowing that winning division games on the road is very tough except in Oakland if the schedule makers had your KC/SD games on the road to start the season we could easily be sitting here talking about Denver being 7-4 with only decent W's being Dallas and Jax.

Only thing that matters is record. Reality is that there aren't enough "really good" teams in the league for any one team to have played more than 3 or 4 at this point in the season. Considering everybody except the Colts have lost two games means that at most any team can probably have is 1 to 4 really good looking wins on the slate.

Odysseus · 11-30-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Red Pants

I think Chiefs at Dallas will be very telling. Our ability to beat a good team in their house is critical this time of the year. I'm not real hopeful though.

How big is this game?

If the Chiefs don't beat Denver the games versus Dallas and Giants are all mentally VERY steep uphill climbs regardless. All this crap about it being in Arrowhead is stupid. This isn't a geography test. It's a football game.

If the Broncos lose to the Chiefs they are in probably just as bad of shape mentally. The power polls take a crap, The Ravens ask "what about them Chiefs", if it's lousy play they have to fix it, if it's a snazzy game plan they have to counter it, if a player's hurt they have to fill that slot, and most importantly that shiny armor of invincibility is gone for the season.

People who think the Broncos can beat the Colts are full of crap. They have to beat the Chiefs and no matter what the score is that is never an easy thing to do.

11-30-2005, 04:12 AM	#1
Odysseus Fan of the home team Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 12,107 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mark Schlereth	113005 Chiefs season - Prediction Good Morning Chiefs fans, This is your wake up call. Home vs Den - 9-2 Home vs SD - 7-4 Away vs Dallas - 7-4 Away vs NYG - 7-4 Home vs CIN - 8-3 There is no way the Chiefs are winning three of the next games. Your whole season depends on you beating the Broncos. The Broncos can drop that game and still be in a pretty good spot. If Chiefs lose then the Broncos have essentially kicked them into the coffin and it's all over boys. Broncos fans get accused of deflection by Chiefs fans all the time. If you are role model for consistent behaviour and the absolute bearer of knowledge then I would like you to bring into our humble Bronco world your wisdom of what you see to come for the Kansas City's season. Not that it matters!

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11-30-2005, 04:58 AM	#2
redrage Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 825	If it's ok with you I'll wait until KC losses two games before declaring their season over. Despite what Denver fans wish to believe, the defense is improving and hopefully the return of Sims will give some depth along the defensive line they've been needing. Offensively, the NE was the first time all year that the starting O-line from last season played together and they did a pretty good job against what I consider one of the best D-lines in the NFL. They'll have to improve, but it's miles better than what was there nearly all year. I don't have any reason to believe KC can't pull out every single on of their homes games. That leaves trying to get a road win at NYG or Dallas and admittedly tough task---but hardley impossible. I'd kind of like to see the Cowboys win a big game against the Giants this weekeend and have an emotional letdown when KC comes calling. BTW the schedule is: Denver at Dallas at NYG SD Cincy

11-30-2005, 06:22 AM	#3
Odysseus Fan of the home team Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 12,107 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mark Schlereth	That was a very positive and smart fan take. Well done. So...I guess 50% of your percieved season is this Sunday. Wow. HUGE game. I hate to wake anybody up to the truth but despite the Patriots stinking up the place Chiefs played some very good defense. Brady is very accurate and just doesn't toss that many unprovoked interceptions. They came with a lot of heat and a presence and seem intent on getting back into it. If the Broncos win it don't see it by more than 3 points as the Chiefs really have improved on Defense. The Broncos have to play with intensity and I don't know if they are going to want it as badly. Dallas and Giants however are going to just punish the Cheifs. Thanks for a solid post.

11-30-2005, 07:05 AM	#7
Odysseus Fan of the home team Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 12,107 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mark Schlereth	A bob free thread? Does such a thing exist?

11-30-2005, 07:12 AM	#8
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	GDI!!! Shut up. Maybe there can be thread of useful dialogue without that pu**y coming here and playing with his wood. He is as much of a real dog's butt as I have ever seen or read, although most mullet fans are like that....

11-30-2005, 07:13 AM	#9
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	With the schedule we have to finish the season I'm not expecting a pretty result but nobody knows until if plays out. Nobody expected the Donks to go 8-1 after looking like the Houston Texans in week 1 against the Dolphins either but yet here they are at 9-2. I expect the Chiefs to probably go 3-2 in the final 5 games and be sitting at 10-6 hoping for some help to get a wild card spot when all said and done.

11-30-2005, 07:20 AM	#10
Chief Red Pants Just Drafted meatroaf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 12	Honestly, if there's any hope for the Chiefs to sniff the post season they must go 4-1 and win all the AFC games (Denver, Sandy Eggo, & the 'Nati).

11-30-2005, 07:31 AM	#12
Chief Red Pants Just Drafted meatroaf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 12	I think Chiefs at Dallas will be very telling. Our ability to beat a good team in their house is critical this time of the year. I'm not real hopeful though.

11-30-2005, 08:05 AM	#15
Needa Pass Rush Never say Always Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,211	This is a thread that will be pulled up after the season. So much can happen in the last 5 weeks. It's obviously an advantage to be in control. Let's hope the Broncos don't lose that edge.

11-30-2005, 08:35 AM	#19
brncs_fan How about some Tapenade! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Coaches Cradle...Eastern Illinois University Posts: 5,490 Adopt-a-Bronco: Manti Teo	Am I the only one not sold on the Chiefs ability to beat a productive winning team? They have had a cupcake schedule and have lost to a pretty weak opponent (ie. Buffalo) and gave a sure win in Philly at home. Sure they beat NE last weak, but they are so far gone from what they were. KC has hard games coming up including 2 on the road against the two teams tied for first in the second tounghest division in football (Giants, Cowboys). KC will not make the playoffs this year (sorry if this turns it into a smack thread).