Peter King gives props to Rod

[Jesterhole]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...bte/index.html

Q: "As a HOF voter, where do you think Hines Ward stacks up? He epitomizes everything a wide receiver should mean to a team and he just recently eclipsed John Stallworth's all-time receptions record with the Steelers. Is he not the best intangible wide receiver of his generation?''

A: "Rod Smith is. Great hands, best blocker of his day among receivers, incredibly productive. But Ward will get an airing for the Hall if he continues on the path he's on, because he's totally selfless, has tremendous guts and is a keystone to everything the Steelers do. How can you not respect the guy?"

[bendog]

wait a sec

Ward 120 games 6603 yds

Smith 160 game 10381

How does ward get the nod and not rod?

Ward's gotten approx 45 yds per game to Smiths over 60? Is my math off?

[BMF Bronco]

Originally Posted by bendog

wait a sec

Ward 120 games 6603 yds

Smith 160 game 10381

How does ward get the nod and not rod?

east coast vs. west coast

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by bendog

wait a sec

Ward 120 games 6603 yds

Smith 160 game 10381

How does ward get the nod and not rod?

Ward's gotten approx 45 yds per game to Smiths over 60? Is my math off?

then you add in smith's 2 superbowl rings as well.........

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

then you add in smith's 2 superbowl rings as well.........

But you don't, if you're an East Coast voter.

[bronco militia]

you guys need to read the first post again:

Q: " Is he not the best intangible wide receiver of his generation (ward)?'

A: "Rod Smith is. Great hands, best blocker of his day among receivers, incredibly productive.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

you guys need to read the first post again:

Q: " Is he not the best intangible wide receiver of his generation (ward)?'

A: "Rod Smith is. Great hands, best blocker of his day among receivers, incredibly productive.

Read it and he couldn't keep from rubbing on Ward's sack in the middle of giving a kudo to Rod.

[TD4HOF]

If Rod Smith isn't a Hall of Famer then we might as well take up a collection to build our own shrine somewhere else 'cuz it just ain't happening for us. I think he'll make it, though.

TD, on the other hand, he's gonna need our lobbying. It's interesting, Rod and TD represent opposite ends of the spectrum. The former is one of the most consistent recievers of all-time, a bit unsung and underappreciated outside of Denver but with numbers up the wazoo. TD had a tragically short career but was THE most dominant player of the 90's.

Of course, we'll probably get stiffed both ways just 'cuz Denver is a second-rate team that never existed beyond ole' number seven.

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

you guys need to read the first post again:

Q: " Is he not the best intangible wide receiver of his generation (ward)?'

A: "Rod Smith is. Great hands, best blocker of his day among receivers, incredibly productive.

Yeah, he says rod smith is the man right now, but ward is having a HOF career if he continues

[TD4HOF]

Originally Posted by TD4HOF

If Rod Smith isn't a Hall of Famer then we might as well take up a collection to build our own shrine somewhere else 'cuz it just ain't happening for us. I think he'll make it, though.

TD, on the other hand, he's gonna need our lobbying. It's interesting, Rod and TD represent opposite ends of the spectrum. The former is one of the most consistent recievers of all-time, a bit unsung and underappreciated outside of Denver but with numbers up the wazoo. TD had a tragically short career but was THE most dominant player of the 90's.

Of course, we'll probably get stiffed both ways just 'cuz Denver is a second-rate team that never existed beyond ole' number seven.

I meant to say said TD was the dominant player of the LATE 90's.

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Read it and he couldn't keep from rubbing on Ward's sack in the middle of giving a kudo to Rod.

That's crap, it was a question specifically about Hines Ward and he chose to throw Rod Smith in, not vice versa. Basically he chose to rub Rod's sack while giving kudos to ward.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Read it and he couldn't keep from rubbing on Ward's sack in the middle of giving a kudo to Rod.

[bendog]

I'm not sure Rod has the numbers. IF he hangs on and conts being productive for a few more years, prolly. But to say Ward is HOF and Rod not IN THE SAME SENTENCE. King's a fat idiota-hole

TD does not have the yards.

Zimmerman not being a finalist is a joke. He was all decade TWICE

[TD4HOF]

Originally Posted by 2KBack

Yeah, he says rod smith is the man right now, but ward is having a HOF career if he continues

So, Does Dr. *sic* King think Rod is HoF material or not? What a schmuck. He should list all the active players he sees as headed to the Hall in that answer.

Answering questions about football with no logic or sense of responsibility, man, where can I get me some of that payroll.

[TD4HOF]

Originally Posted by bendog

I'm not sure Rod has the numbers. IF he hangs on and conts being productive for a few more years, prolly. But to say Ward is HOF and Rod not IN THE SAME SENTENCE. King's a fat idiota-hole

TD does not have the yards.

Zimmerman not being a finalist is a joke. He was all decade TWICE

So Lynn Swann is in on the basis of two circus catches but TD isn't for tearing the league apart over 4 seasons?

No TD, no Baaaack to Baaaaaack, Baby.

He should be in. If Earl Campbell's in, he's in.

[Hulamau]

Both guys deserve to get in.
Just checking in from chilly London UK on my hotels computer.

I Woke up last night at 2am to catch the British version of NFL Live and saw the ass whompin we put on Oakland!

DW looked awesome on the highlights. Jake is on fire and sounds like the D-line was kicking ass too. Lelie caught a few good ones it seems as well and drew a PI or defensive holding on the Oakland 5 that set up another score. I'll be back in sunny Hawaii just in time to take in the Jets game

Can anyone tell me how Lepsis is doing? I saw a report that he was injured. Did anyone else get banged up? The TO thing could be a crap shoot but if Shanny can get him to play and not be a dick perhaps its worth a chance.
He'd have to be on a real short leash from the get go though.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by 2KBack

That's crap, it was a question specifically about Hines Ward and he chose to throw Rod Smith in, not vice versa. Basically he chose to rub Rod's sack while giving kudos to ward.

Wrong. I and others already pointed out how East Coast players are "better" than Bronco players.

Is he not the best intangible wide receiver of his generation?''

A: "Rod Smith is. Great hands, best blocker of his day among receivers, incredibly productive. But Ward will get an airing for the Hall if he continues on the path he's on, because he's totally selfless, has tremendous guts and is a keystone to everything the Steelers do. How can you not respect the guy?"

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Hulamau

Both guys deserve to get in.
Just checking in from chilly London UK on my hotels computer.

I Woke up last night at 2am to catch the British version of NFL Live and say the ass whamppin we put on Oakland!

DW looked awesome on the highlights. Jake is on fire and sounds like the dline was kicking ass too.I'll be back in sunny Hawaii just in time to take in the Jets game

Can anyone tell me how Lepsis is doing? I saw a report that he was injured. Did anyone else get banged up? The TO thing could be a crap shoot but if Shanny can get him to play and not be a dick perhaps its worth a chance.
He'd have to be on a real short leash from the get go though.

lepsis returned on the following play...I'm not sure what he injured.

during a radio interview last week, Shanny was asked about TO and he brought up the fact that the Broncos were not interested in TO in 2004 when the 49ers were trying to trade him and wondered why they would be intersted in him now..

[TD4HOF]

Here's my Broncos HoF list in order of worthiness:

1. Shannon Sharpe- First ballot, gauranteed.

2. Gary Zimmerman- 20 years of dominance, saved our O-line in '98 with two bad shoulders.

3. Terrell Davis- A simply unforgettable run. Avg. yards per carry and performance in the clutch two strengths.

4. Mike Shanahan- Will be a shoo-in after his next championship.

5. Rod Smith- Founder of the "Undrafted" Nation. Just a great all-around player. Value to the community will greatly benefit him with hindsight.

6. Steve Atwater- It's tough for Safeties, but ably took the hard-hitting torch from Lott. Could've used a couple more seasons.

[bendog]

TD has the rings, the mvp, the SBmvp, but NOT the yards. Sorry.

Shannon, Zim and Atwater, agreed. But who knows how the voters will job Den

Rod ... boderline but climbing.

[jmz313]

I'm sure if you sent Peter King an Email asking if he thought Rod Smith was Hall worthy he would say yes.

Bottom Line is, Ward was the topic of the question and like a good journalist, peter King stayed on topic. The only reason Rod was part of the answer was the emailers last line calling ward the best intangible player, King disagreed.

[TD4HOF]

I forgot Randy Grandishar..but he was before my time. Would love to see Orange Crush represented as well, of course.

[TD4HOF]

Originally Posted by jmz313

I'm sure if you sent Peter King an Email asking if he thought Rod Smith was Hall worthy he would say yes.

Bottom Line is, Ward was the topic of the question and like a good journalist, peter King stayed on topic. The only reason Rod was part of the answer was the emailers last line calling ward the best intangible player, King disagreed.

You're right. The question was about Hines and it's a bonus to even mention Rod. Good call.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by jmz313

I'm sure if you sent Peter King an Email asking if he thought Rod Smith was Hall worthy he would say yes.

Bottom Line is, Ward was the topic of the question and like a good journalist, peter King stayed on topic. The only reason Rod was part of the answer was the emailers last line calling ward the best intangible player, King disagreed.

Interesting pt. I don't know what King would say. Personally, I don't think either guy has of yet put up HOF numbers though obviously Rod has more and is closing in. I don't really see WArd as having a HOF type numbers career. My math was wrong on him as he's clipping along at about 55 yds per game. Rod is clipping at about 65. Ten yds per game adds up when you get over 100 games.

Chris Carter had over 13000, so did Ellard, Largent, Reed. If Rod hangs on for another 2-3 years, he's about there.

Irving goes in with 11905

Monk had just under 13000 and apparantly is NOT good enough. Why is a mystery to me.

[bendog]

JMO but it appears the writing is on the wall for grads. Dr Z stabbed him.