Al Davis mad at the officials! - The Orange Mane

Bob's your Information Minister · 11-11-2005, 08:43 AM

Sour grapes make a fine whine, Al!

AROUND THE LEAGUE

Raiders owner Al Davis is furious over the officiating in Sunday's 27-23, last-second loss to the Chiefs in Kansas City.

For the third straight year, the Raiders drew referee Larry Nemmers' crew for the road trip to KC. And for the third straight year, Nemmers' crew played a role in the outcome. The Raiders have lost all three games, by eight total points. The Chiefs' game-winning drive Sunday was helped along by a tripping penalty on Raiders defensive tackle Ed Jasper that negated a sack of Trent Green. The penalty gave the Chiefs a first down at midfield with 27 seconds left. Three plays later, running back Larry Johnson scored on a 1-yard dive with no time left.

Sources close to Davis say he doesn't understand why the league allows Nemmers, who is from Springfield, Mo., to work so many Chiefs games. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said it's strictly a coincidence that Nemmers and his crew have worked the last three Raiders games in KC. He said crew assignments are selected randomly by a computer and don't take into account where the officials live. He also said crews are not allowed to work more than two of a team's games per season. And those games must be at least six weeks apart. Nemmers and his crew also worked the Raiders' 23-20, Week 3 loss to the Eagles. Davis, sources say, blames them for that defeat as well.

In that game, a roughing-the-passer penalty on linebacker DeLawrence Grant kept alive a drive that resulted in the Eagles' go-ahead touchdown. Safety Nnamdi Asomugha also was called for illegal contact on the Eagles' game-winning drive.

Bronx33 · 11-11-2005, 08:55 AM

selected randomly three years in a row..............that's funny!

Needa Pass Rush · 11-11-2005, 09:28 AM

Is this Al's way of getting the offciating edge in the matchup with the hated broncos? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Bronx33 · 11-11-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Needa Pass Rush

Is this Al's way of getting the offciating edge in the matchup with the hated broncos? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Maybe the computer will pull Larry Nemmers crew again........LMAO!

TotallyScrewed · 11-11-2005, 10:17 AM

Bob does it again...pointing out how lucky and inept his own favorite team is.

BTW, who was the officiating team that Denver drew in the Giants game?

Bob's your Information Minister · 11-11-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TotallyScrewed

Bob does it again...pointing out how lucky and inept his own favorite team is.

BTW, who was the officiating team that Denver drew in the Giants game?

I know. KC only wins because they are lucky. Denver only wins because they are good.

OrangeShadow · 11-11-2005, 10:23 AM

sure the play helped but KC had to make the plays before adn after the call in order for the call to largely effect the outcome.

Paladin · 11-11-2005, 10:24 AM

Wow! That is an eye opener. You mean there is proof that the mullets get an edge from the officials? What? No way! Just because they have coke bottle glases and cant see Dainty run around much less a block in the back, doesn't mean anything. Does it?

To be fair, I think there is a kernal of truth to what old greasy Al is saying here. At point: the officiating has gotten crappy. So, what else is new?

Bob's your Information Minister · 11-11-2005, 10:36 AM

KC gets no more of an edge from the officials than any other team.

TotallyScrewed · 11-11-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

I know. KC only wins because they are lucky. Denver only wins because they are better.

I fixed that for you.

Crushaholic · 11-11-2005, 11:11 AM

So, when can we expect the NFL to fine Al Davis for his comments about the officials?

easymobee · 11-11-2005, 11:15 AM

Bad Calls happen every game.

The tripping call was one of them.

The announcers seemed embarressed for the refs as they showed the replay.

That said, i hate complaining about calls (except when i do it).

BRONCCRUSHFAN · 11-11-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

I know. KC only wins because they are lucky. Denver only wins because they are good.

Glad you admit it, that's the first step to a full recovery

baja · 11-11-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

selected randomly three years in a row..............that's funny!

That's what random means, that every week every Ref team has an equal chance to draw any football team.

watermock · 11-11-2005, 12:54 PM

I've been yapping like a neglected woman about that fantasy tripping call all week. The guy had his nose in the turf from holding and never even saw the RB...he was just trying to get up...he never leg whipped to trip him...if you called tripping every time someone tripped over someone's legs it would be called 15 times a game. Johnson should of been agile enough to step over him...it's not his fault the guy is a clumsy oof...

Bob's your Information Minister · 11-11-2005, 12:55 PM

Johnson? It was Trent Green that tripped.

It was a bad call, I have no problem admitting it. As bad as the calls on Jared Allen and Benny Sapp on Oakland's first TD drive.

OrangeShadow · 11-11-2005, 01:03 PM

hey its oaklands fault for not preventing KC from making the plays before and after. Oakland is at fault as much as the officials. take your loss like a man al. or at least a women

watermock · 11-11-2005, 01:04 PM

OK, it was Trint...just makes the call even more ludicrous...TrInt is about as agile as a sloth. I just assumed it was Johnson...I remember the play tho...the DL guy had his face in the carpet and was trying to roll back up...I don't think he even saw TrInt.

missingnumber7 · 11-11-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

I've been yapping like a neglected woman about that fantasy tripping call all week. The guy had his nose in the turf from holding and never even saw the RB...he was just trying to get up...he never leg whipped to trip him...if you called tripping every time someone tripped over someone's legs it would be called 15 times a game. Johnson should of been agile enough to step over him...it's not his fault the guy is a clumsy oof...

Actually tripping is only intended to be called in 2 places...1.the whole through which the running back is running or the path to which a defender is taking to the QB or 2. a defender trips to tackle

missingnumber7 · 11-11-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

OK, it was Trint...just makes the call even more ludicrous...TrInt is about as agile as a sloth. I just assumed it was Johnson...I remember the play tho...the DL guy had his face in the carpet and was trying to roll back up...I don't think he even saw TrInt.

Why you be hatin on sloths so much?

broncosteven · 11-11-2005, 05:13 PM

Was "the source close to Al Davis" the Male nurse that inserts his colonostomy bag?

11-11-2005, 08:43 AM	#1
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Al Davis mad at the officials! Sour grapes make a fine whine, Al! AROUND THE LEAGUE Raiders owner Al Davis is furious over the officiating in Sunday's 27-23, last-second loss to the Chiefs in Kansas City. For the third straight year, the Raiders drew referee Larry Nemmers' crew for the road trip to KC. And for the third straight year, Nemmers' crew played a role in the outcome. The Raiders have lost all three games, by eight total points. The Chiefs' game-winning drive Sunday was helped along by a tripping penalty on Raiders defensive tackle Ed Jasper that negated a sack of Trent Green. The penalty gave the Chiefs a first down at midfield with 27 seconds left. Three plays later, running back Larry Johnson scored on a 1-yard dive with no time left. Sources close to Davis say he doesn't understand why the league allows Nemmers, who is from Springfield, Mo., to work so many Chiefs games. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said it's strictly a coincidence that Nemmers and his crew have worked the last three Raiders games in KC. He said crew assignments are selected randomly by a computer and don't take into account where the officials live. He also said crews are not allowed to work more than two of a team's games per season. And those games must be at least six weeks apart. Nemmers and his crew also worked the Raiders' 23-20, Week 3 loss to the Eagles. Davis, sources say, blames them for that defeat as well. In that game, a roughing-the-passer penalty on linebacker DeLawrence Grant kept alive a drive that resulted in the Eagles' go-ahead touchdown. Safety Nnamdi Asomugha also was called for illegal contact on the Eagles' game-winning drive.

11-11-2005, 01:04 PM	#18
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	OK, it was Trint...just makes the call even more ludicrous...TrInt is about as agile as a sloth. I just assumed it was Johnson...I remember the play tho...the DL guy had his face in the carpet and was trying to roll back up...I don't think he even saw TrInt. Last edited by watermock; 11-11-2005 at 01:07 PM..

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11-11-2005, 08:55 AM	#2
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	selected randomly three years in a row..............that's funny!

11-11-2005, 09:28 AM	#3
Needa Pass Rush Never say Always Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,211	Is this Al's way of getting the offciating edge in the matchup with the hated broncos? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

11-11-2005, 10:17 AM	#5
TotallyScrewed Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,597	Bob does it again...pointing out how lucky and inept his own favorite team is. BTW, who was the officiating team that Denver drew in the Giants game?

11-11-2005, 10:23 AM	#7
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	sure the play helped but KC had to make the plays before adn after the call in order for the call to largely effect the outcome.

11-11-2005, 10:24 AM	#8
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Wow! That is an eye opener. You mean there is proof that the mullets get an edge from the officials? What? No way! Just because they have coke bottle glases and cant see Dainty run around much less a block in the back, doesn't mean anything. Does it? To be fair, I think there is a kernal of truth to what old greasy Al is saying here. At point: the officiating has gotten crappy. So, what else is new?

11-11-2005, 10:36 AM	#9
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	KC gets no more of an edge from the officials than any other team.

11-11-2005, 11:11 AM	#11
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	So, when can we expect the NFL to fine Al Davis for his comments about the officials?

11-11-2005, 11:15 AM	#12
easymobee mobile quarterback 22 for 218 : 5 TD's vs Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Denver CO Posts: 1,395	Bad Calls happen every game. The tripping call was one of them. The announcers seemed embarressed for the refs as they showed the replay. That said, i hate complaining about calls (except when i do it).

11-11-2005, 12:54 PM	#15
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I've been yapping like a neglected woman about that fantasy tripping call all week. The guy had his nose in the turf from holding and never even saw the RB...he was just trying to get up...he never leg whipped to trip him...if you called tripping every time someone tripped over someone's legs it would be called 15 times a game. Johnson should of been agile enough to step over him...it's not his fault the guy is a clumsy oof...

11-11-2005, 12:55 PM	#16
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Johnson? It was Trent Green that tripped. It was a bad call, I have no problem admitting it. As bad as the calls on Jared Allen and Benny Sapp on Oakland's first TD drive.

11-11-2005, 01:03 PM	#17
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	hey its oaklands fault for not preventing KC from making the plays before and after. Oakland is at fault as much as the officials. take your loss like a man al. or at least a women

11-11-2005, 05:13 PM	#21
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,036 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Was "the source close to Al Davis" the Male nurse that inserts his colonostomy bag?