Poll: Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest - The Orange Mane

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-10-2005, 11:36 PM

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 19 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Most Americans say they aren't impressed by the ethics and honesty of the Bush administration, already under scrutiny for its justifications for an unpopular war in Iraq and its role in the leak of a covert CIA officer's identity.

Almost six in 10 — 57 percent — said they do not think the Bush administration has high ethical standards and the same portion says President Bush is not honest, an AP-Ipsos poll found. Just over four in 10 say the administration has high ethical standards and that Bush is honest. Whites, Southerners and evangelicals were most likely to believe Bush is honest.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051111/...h/bush_ap_poll

Hogan11 · 11-11-2005, 07:05 AM

W not honest? Now, there's an Earth shaker for ya.....

When was the last time any President was honest?

alkemical · 11-11-2005, 07:44 AM

No doubt hogan - I wonder if i could get a night with the bush twins for a contribution to his fund

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-11-2005, 07:07 PM

Right wing starts to reap the whirlwind

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connel...84_joel11.html

Americans are political equalizers. They have a track record of reaching in to restore balance whenever Washington, D.C.'s current crop of rulers start to believe those famous lyrics from Cabaret: The future belongs to us.

Having overreached, bogged us down in war, and sown winds of division, the Republican right is starting to reap the whirlwind.

The welcome breeze may be temporary, but it is being felt from Washington to Washington to the Arctic.

Take what's happened in the "other" Washington and its environs this week.

Republican-leaning Virginia elected a Democratic governor, despite an election-eve rally appearance in which President Bush attempted to boost the GOP ticket.

Winning Democrat Timothy Kaine emphasized the religious values of a social activist Catholic in the capital of the Confederacy. An attack TV spot on Kaine's opposition to the death penalty -- the type of GOP trick that worked in the past -- blew up in their faces.

A day later, leaders in the House of Representatives were forced to strip from a pending budget bill the backdoor authorization of oil drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

About two-dozen moderate Republicans, including Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Wash., remembered the conservationist legacy of their party and would not go along with putting drilling rigs and hauling roads in America's greatest wilderness.

"This statement by the House clearly shows it is not a partisan issue. It is an issue for all Americans," said Subhankar Banerjee. He is the young photographer and ex-Boeing worker whose book "Seasons of Life and Land" refuted lies told by Alaska's congressional delegation.

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Another shoe dropped Thursday. House leaders pulled the entire budget bill because they didn't have votes to pass it.

The $51 billion budget-cut package hits hardest at the middle class and America's working poor. On the cutting block were Medicaid, food stamps and federally guaranteed student loans.

"I think we'll have the votes next week," said House Majority Leader Roy Blunt.

Arms need to be bent. However, the radical right's chief enforcer -- Rep. Tom "The Hammer" DeLay of Texas -- is under indictment and out of commission.

Rumblings in America go beyond the Beltway. A trio of recent polls put Bush's approval rating below 40 percent.

California's GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger called a special statewide election this week, seeking to give himself sweeping new powers over the budget and to break the power of Democratic legislators and labor unions. "The Governator" lost all four of his ballot measures.

In this Washington, the Republican right tried to carry on the 2004 gubernatorial election. It backed an initiative to roll back the $8.5 billion transportation package that Gov. Christine Gregoire helped engineer.

So-called mainstream Republicans did not follow the party line. They realized, as GOP state Chairman Chris Vance did not, that the ability to govern is the acid test of politics. Repairing the state's infrastructure took priority over political intrigue.

I-912 lost, the first major defeat suffered by the state's tax revolt movement.

Borrowing Winston Churchill's words of 1943, it may not be the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning.

A wartime president should never be, to use a Bushism, "misunderestimated." The White House still dominates cable TV news. And THIS White House has a vast "Amen Corner" of radio talkers, right-wing bloggers and the Fox News Channel.

But once lost, as previous presidents have found, credibility is nigh impossible to reclaim.

Foes of the Republican right should adopt a motto: Not a New York minute for gloating.

The Democrats cannot ride the other guys' mistakes back into power. They need to offer a positive vision and agenda to the country, a job notably not done in the 2004 campaign.

As well, evildoers remain loose in the land.

The House budget package may have stalled. Still functioning, however, is a Resources Committee task force assigned the job of "updating" the National Environmental Policy Act, the Magna Carta of America's environmental laws.

Chaired by Rep. Cathy McMorris, R-Wash., the panel held a hearing Thursday to trash environmental litigation. And, as Rep. Tom Udall, D-N.M., noted: "The Resources Committee continues to approve sweeping changes to NEPA, each designed to carve special interest exemptions into the heart of the law."

McMorris is considered to have a safe seat in Eastern Washington. But Okanogan County rancher Peter Goldmark, former state agriculture director and scion of a distinguished Washington family, is exploring a run against her.

Of course, there's Alaska's temperamental, vengeful GOP Senator-for-life Ted Stevens.

Stevens has just introduced a bill to roll back federal protection of Puget Sound -- clearing the way for more tankers and refineries.

The old bastard shakes down our state's business interests for $250,000 in donations whenever he seeks another term. And this is what we get in return.

Evil deeds backfire. The bid to oil our waters may only put a tailwind behind the re-election of Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell, and give her the title, "Defender of the Sound."

ak1971 · 11-12-2005, 07:48 AM

wow..a politician not honest...earth shattering

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-12-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak1971

wow..a politician not honest...earth shattering

Translation:

"Move along folks - nothing to see here. I mean, it's not like Bush was dishonest about something that really matters, e.g. getting a BJ."

11-10-2005, 11:36 PM	#1
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Poll: Most Americans Say Bush Not Honest By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 19 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Most Americans say they aren't impressed by the ethics and honesty of the Bush administration, already under scrutiny for its justifications for an unpopular war in Iraq and its role in the leak of a covert CIA officer's identity. Almost six in 10 — 57 percent — said they do not think the Bush administration has high ethical standards and the same portion says President Bush is not honest, an AP-Ipsos poll found. Just over four in 10 say the administration has high ethical standards and that Bush is honest. Whites, Southerners and evangelicals were most likely to believe Bush is honest. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051111/...h/bush_ap_poll

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11-11-2005, 07:05 AM	#2
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	W not honest? Now, there's an Earth shaker for ya..... When was the last time any President was honest?

11-11-2005, 07:44 AM	#3
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,698 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	No doubt hogan - I wonder if i could get a night with the bush twins for a contribution to his fund

11-11-2005, 07:07 PM	#4
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Right wing starts to reap the whirlwind http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/connel...84_joel11.html Americans are political equalizers. They have a track record of reaching in to restore balance whenever Washington, D.C.'s current crop of rulers start to believe those famous lyrics from Cabaret: The future belongs to us. Having overreached, bogged us down in war, and sown winds of division, the Republican right is starting to reap the whirlwind. The welcome breeze may be temporary, but it is being felt from Washington to Washington to the Arctic. Take what's happened in the "other" Washington and its environs this week. Republican-leaning Virginia elected a Democratic governor, despite an election-eve rally appearance in which President Bush attempted to boost the GOP ticket. Winning Democrat Timothy Kaine emphasized the religious values of a social activist Catholic in the capital of the Confederacy. An attack TV spot on Kaine's opposition to the death penalty -- the type of GOP trick that worked in the past -- blew up in their faces. A day later, leaders in the House of Representatives were forced to strip from a pending budget bill the backdoor authorization of oil drilling in Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. About two-dozen moderate Republicans, including Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Wash., remembered the conservationist legacy of their party and would not go along with putting drilling rigs and hauling roads in America's greatest wilderness. "This statement by the House clearly shows it is not a partisan issue. It is an issue for all Americans," said Subhankar Banerjee. He is the young photographer and ex-Boeing worker whose book "Seasons of Life and Land" refuted lies told by Alaska's congressional delegation. advertising Another shoe dropped Thursday. House leaders pulled the entire budget bill because they didn't have votes to pass it. The $51 billion budget-cut package hits hardest at the middle class and America's working poor. On the cutting block were Medicaid, food stamps and federally guaranteed student loans. "I think we'll have the votes next week," said House Majority Leader Roy Blunt. Arms need to be bent. However, the radical right's chief enforcer -- Rep. Tom "The Hammer" DeLay of Texas -- is under indictment and out of commission. Rumblings in America go beyond the Beltway. A trio of recent polls put Bush's approval rating below 40 percent. California's GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger called a special statewide election this week, seeking to give himself sweeping new powers over the budget and to break the power of Democratic legislators and labor unions. "The Governator" lost all four of his ballot measures. In this Washington, the Republican right tried to carry on the 2004 gubernatorial election. It backed an initiative to roll back the $8.5 billion transportation package that Gov. Christine Gregoire helped engineer. So-called mainstream Republicans did not follow the party line. They realized, as GOP state Chairman Chris Vance did not, that the ability to govern is the acid test of politics. Repairing the state's infrastructure took priority over political intrigue. I-912 lost, the first major defeat suffered by the state's tax revolt movement. Borrowing Winston Churchill's words of 1943, it may not be the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning. A wartime president should never be, to use a Bushism, "misunderestimated." The White House still dominates cable TV news. And THIS White House has a vast "Amen Corner" of radio talkers, right-wing bloggers and the Fox News Channel. But once lost, as previous presidents have found, credibility is nigh impossible to reclaim. Foes of the Republican right should adopt a motto: Not a New York minute for gloating. The Democrats cannot ride the other guys' mistakes back into power. They need to offer a positive vision and agenda to the country, a job notably not done in the 2004 campaign. As well, evildoers remain loose in the land. The House budget package may have stalled. Still functioning, however, is a Resources Committee task force assigned the job of "updating" the National Environmental Policy Act, the Magna Carta of America's environmental laws. Chaired by Rep. Cathy McMorris, R-Wash., the panel held a hearing Thursday to trash environmental litigation. And, as Rep. Tom Udall, D-N.M., noted: "The Resources Committee continues to approve sweeping changes to NEPA, each designed to carve special interest exemptions into the heart of the law." McMorris is considered to have a safe seat in Eastern Washington. But Okanogan County rancher Peter Goldmark, former state agriculture director and scion of a distinguished Washington family, is exploring a run against her. Of course, there's Alaska's temperamental, vengeful GOP Senator-for-life Ted Stevens. Stevens has just introduced a bill to roll back federal protection of Puget Sound -- clearing the way for more tankers and refineries. The old bastard shakes down our state's business interests for $250,000 in donations whenever he seeks another term. And this is what we get in return. Evil deeds backfire. The bid to oil our waters may only put a tailwind behind the re-election of Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell, and give her the title, "Defender of the Sound."

11-12-2005, 07:48 AM	#5
ak1971 uhhhh Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,538	wow..a politician not honest...earth shattering