Chefs lose their 3rd WR for Season!

[broncosteven]

Priest is #3 in total Receiving yards & Number of catches for Chefs so far this year. They may be able to cover for him on the ground with LJ but they will really miss him in the passing game. He has the longest completion of the year with 60 yds!

http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/KC/2005/regular

Receiving Stats
Player No Yds Avg Long TD
Eddie Kennison 37 548 14.8 49 2
Tony Gonzalez 37 376 10.2 36 1
Priest Holmes 21 197 9.4 60 1
Dante Hall 19 180 9.5 22 1
Chris Horn 15 169 11.3 50 0
Samie Parker 9 155 17.2 49 1
Larry Johnson 9 115 12.8 36 0
Marc Boerigter 6 101 16.8 38 0
Jason Dunn 3 48 16.0 24 0
Tony Richardson 5 21 4.2 9 1
Ronnie Cruz 1 15 15.0 15 0

[RedskinBronco]

Originally Posted by broncosteven

Priest is #3 in total Receiving yards & Number of catches for Chefs so far this year. They may be able to cover for him on the ground with LJ but they will really miss him in the passing game. He has the longest completion of the year with 60 yds!

http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/KC/2005/regular

Receiving Stats
Player No Yds Avg Long TD
Eddie Kennison 37 548 14.8 49 2
Tony Gonzalez 37 376 10.2 36 1
Priest Holmes 21 197 9.4 60 1
Dante Hall 19 180 9.5 22 1
Chris Horn 15 169 11.3 50 0
Samie Parker 9 155 17.2 49 1
Larry Johnson 9 115 12.8 36 0
Marc Boerigter 6 101 16.8 38 0
Jason Dunn 3 48 16.0 24 0
Tony Richardson 5 21 4.2 9 1
Ronnie Cruz 1 15 15.0 15 0

you could be right in that their passing game might suffer, but in terms of the running game i think this is the best thing to happen to the chefs. Priest looked old and slow when running the ball. Sure, just like any great player he was good in the open field (i.e. the passing game). However, he was not effective running the ball. I know people will say he still got yards, but still he didnt look like the old priest. LJ is a better option right now for the chiefs. His style might give them a new attitude on offense and they might be able to tire opponents out. of course, if LJ is in fact a headcase, then the chefs are in deep deep trouble. but I think the baby will stop whining now that he is the #1 RB.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by RedskinBronco

you could be right in that their passing game might suffer, but in terms of the running game i think this is the best thing to happen to the chefs. Priest looked old and slow when running the ball. Sure, just like any great player he was good in the open field (i.e. the passing game). However, he was not effective running the ball. I know people will say he still got yards, but still he didnt look like the old priest. LJ is a better option right now for the chiefs. His style might give them a new attitude on offense and they might be able to tire opponents out. of course, if LJ is in fact a headcase, then the chefs are in deep deep trouble. but I think the baby will stop whining now that he is the #1 RB.

LJ runs high and has been vulnerable to fumbling like those who ran in similar styles (Tatum Bell, Portis). Priest was the best back on the goal line in the NFL. Priest really was a wideout threat as well. I think they won't be as effective in the redzone, but diaper boy can quit whining now and put his money where his mouth is. Their offense should be just fine.

[RedskinBronco]

Originally Posted by Kaylore

LJ runs high and has been vulnerable to fumbling like those who ran in similar styles (Tatum Bell, Portis). Priest was the best back on the goal line in the NFL. Priest really was a wideout threat as well. I think they won't be as effective in the redzone, but diaper boy can quit whining now and put his money where his mouth is. Their offense should be just fine.

good points. I mean no one questions Priest's desire to play the game and his love for the game. It remains to be seen how committed diaper boy is. I don't know. I saw quite a bit of the chiefs this year and it just looks like Priest is always getting nailed. That, to me, means you are slower and less explosive than before. It's natural though. The guy is 32 or something and he's been banged up the past 2 yrs.

LJ has all the talent to be good. We'll see how he responds. He is going to be the difference in terms if they squeeze into the playoffs or not. I do agree that they might struggle in the red zone. Priest could always smell the end zone. You can't teach that.

[Taco John]

Larry Johnson vs. the Broncos:

8 carries, 13 yards. 1.6 yard average. Longest carry: 6 yards.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Thanks for assuring LJ's MVP-caliber performance against the Broncos in December, TJ.

For the record, Larry is an excellent receiver. He caught 40 passes his senior season at Penn State. In limited time last year he had 22 catches for 278 yards and even had a 100-yard receiving game.

I don't think he's as good in the screen game as Priest, although we certainly haven't seen him do much of that. He's at least as good at Priest in the dump-off role. I've seen him take a short pass and stiff arm a guy and turn it into a 20-yard gain several times.

[broncohaven]

I completely missed Priest going on IR. This will hurt the Chiefs overall. I don't think that their general running game will tail off that much, but the absence of Priest in the red zone will be felt.

I feared Priest more than any other player in football when the ball was inside our twenty. He will be missed as a blocker and outlet as well.

[redrage]

I wouldn't call LJ an excellent reciever. He is adequate.

Priest always played with good patience and good balance. He had a great burst through the hole but lacked top-end speed. And for as much as he touched the ball, did not fumble very frequently at all.

Chiefs lose their #3 reciever? OK. I suspect a lot of running backs are #3 or higher on the reception charts for their teams.

LJ is a more powerful runner than Priest. He has better speed and just plays angry. Amazingly he does have good patience for his blockers as reckless as his running style seems. But people are correct here. He's a little tall so his pad level is a little high. He'll get stood up a lot and doesn't bounce off people like Priest would. I still hate the way he holds the ball. Very reckless IMHO.

In the end, KC may actually be more productive running the ball with LJ in the backfield, but their screen game and goal line production may slip. It hasn't been so hot this year so I sort of doubt it can get any worse. Maybe if LJ and the O-line get a groove that area will improve. LJ did tie a NFL record (I believe) for most consecutive games with 2 TD's so it isn't like he can't find the goal line.

[broncohaven]

KC won't be more productive running the ball this year. LJ may produce yards, but the Chiefs scoring will drop off.

[ScotchTanShan]

yep - red zone has been crap for us this year. we've been 1 or 2 for the last 4 or so and this year we were 18th going into the Oakland game. Thats a pretty considerable dropoff.


Only game that we could have won- and probably should have was the San Diego game - too many redzone trips with no points. San Diego just can't close the door on anyone- they were up on you guys and choked it, Dallas, Philly, let the jets back in it and us too.

Good to see Plummer is frontrunner for MVP, congrats on your dominating 2nd half of the season on the way to the playoffs and superbowl, injury free!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by redrage

I wouldn't call LJ an excellent reciever. He is adequate.

Again, I will disagree. Look at his yards per catch. He's got good hands, too. I can't even remember a drop before last Sunday.

[redrage]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Again, I will disagree. Look at his yards per catch. He's got good hands, too. I can't even remember a drop before last Sunday.

Yards per catch doesn't mean he has good hands. I wouldn't say that Ashlie Leile has good hands but his yards per catch is huge.

Again he is adequate. They are better than Shaun (Hands made of stone)Alexander's. But he just isn't a natural receiver like Priest or a Marshall Faulk is.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I didn't say YPC= good hands. I was merely adding to my side of this argument.

His YPC is evidence that he's just as good as Priest in the passing game.

His hands speak for themselves. I can't remember him dropping a pass before this Sunday. He DOES have natural hands. He came out of college as a good pass-catching back.

Priest is out and automatically people want to say the Chiefs will suffer in the passing game. That's simply not the case. Almost all of LJ's 22 catches came after Priest got hurt last year.

[crazyhorse]

You folks must have missed the 30+ yard reception to the 1 foot line in the Raiders game last Sunday. If that is the drop off we can expect by Priest being out. I believe the Chiefs and thier fans will muddle through.


Donko fans.....I love you retards.

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

You folks must have missed the 30+ yard reception to the 1 foot line in the Raiders game last Sunday. If that is the drop off we can expect by Priest being out. I believe the Chiefs and thier fans will muddle through.


Donko fans.....I love you retards.

nothing like turning a short 5 yard dump off pass into a 30 yard gain

dude, that catch and run was nothing special

any back in the NFL should and do make that play...the Raiders gacked on that play, there was no one covering him at all

[Rascal]

It will be settled on the field.

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

You folks must have missed the 30+ yard reception to the 1 foot line in the Raiders game last Sunday. If that is the drop off we can expect by Priest being out. I believe the Chiefs and thier fans will muddle through.


Donko fans.....I love you retards.

And on the other hand you mullets are acting like losing pweest has zero effect on your offense, sure LJs job just got bigger but on the other hand the running game has been reduced by half. (goodluck)

[ludo21]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

I didn't say YPC= good hands. I was merely adding to my side of this argument.

His YPC is evidence that he's just as good as Priest in the passing game.

His hands speak for themselves. I can't remember him dropping a pass before this Sunday. He DOES have natural hands. He came out of college as a good pass-catching back.

Priest is out and automatically people want to say the Chiefs will suffer in the passing game. That's simply not the case. Almost all of LJ's 22 catches came after Priest got hurt last year.

LJ is going to have a great season. He might fumble a few times as he runs with his pad level kinda high, but it wont be too disastrous.

Im still worried with the Chefs right behind us, they wont miss a beat IMO, maybe LJ will get tired.

[redrage]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

And on the other hand you mullets are acting like losing pweest has zero effect on your offense, sure LJs job just got bigger but on the other hand the running game has been reduced by half. (goodluck)

How do you figure that? Those carries Priest was getting are going to LJ and he has a better ypc average.

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by redrage

How do you figure that? Those carries Priest was getting are going to LJ and he has a better ypc average.

Ok so LJ is going to do all the running in every game? he not going to split the runs with anybody? if that's the case then LJs knees and body should be donated to science to help the next poor bastard that is in your back field last longer.


I love you retards...

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by redrage

How do you figure that? Those carries Priest was getting are going to LJ and he has a better ypc average.

you don't think his YPC will go down when he gets more carries?

Tatum's YPC is like 7, but if he got 25 carries a game I'm sure it would go down to about 6

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Donko fans.....I love you retards.

Yep Chiefs are definetly the favorite to win the superbowl now.

So CrazyHorse. You never got back to me on my bet. Broncos vs Chiefs straight up.

[redrage]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

Ok so LJ is going to do all the running in every game? he not going to split the runs with anybody? if that's the case then LJs knees and body should be donated to science to help the next poor bastard that is in your back field last longer.


I love you retards...

Who else is there? Funny how the RBBC now employed by Denver makes their fans forget about the phenomenal success of their running game when they gave all their carries to one guy before. Terrell Davis ring a bell?

Priest didn't split with anyone up 'til last year and that worked out pretty good for KC's running game.

So you figure LJ's only going to get 15-20 carries a game and some guy fresh off the bench or Tony Richardson will get 5-10? What on earth would make you think that? LJ got all the carries last year when Priest went down and the offense didn't suffer one bit.

[redrage]

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

you don't think his YPC will go down when he gets more carries?

Tatum's YPC is like 7, but if he got 25 carries a game I'm sure it would go down to about 6

Sure. But with his size and speed I don't see why he can't keep it 4.5 or higher.

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by redrage

Who else is there? Funny how the RBBC now employed by Denver makes their fans forget about the phenomenal success of their running game when they gave all their carries to one guy before. Terrell Davis ring a bell?

Exactly my point...

Priest didn't split with anyone up 'til last year and that worked out pretty good for KC's running game.


And look where that got him....

So you figure LJ's only going to get 15-20 carries a game and some guy fresh off the bench or Tony Richardson will get 5-10? What on earth would make you think that? LJ got all the carries last year when Priest went down and the offense didn't suffer one bit.

Good luck with richardson..