Champ-long term? - The Orange Mane

llayne · 11-08-2005, 08:06 AM

I have a question to pose to you guys. If Foxworth and DW develop do you think the Broncos consider moving Champ to safty? Before everone tears this idea apart my thinking is this: Most great coners eventually move to safty when they are old and play well. Champ has the ballhawking abilities to make him one of the most dangerous safies in the leauge, perhaps like an Ed Read. As we al know Champ dosn't shy away from contact either. Hopefully Karl P moves into nickle back then.

El Guapo · 11-08-2005, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by llayne

I have a question to pose to you guys:

If Foxworth and DW develop, do you think the Broncos consider moving Champ to safety? Before everyone tears this idea apart, my thinking is this: Most great corners eventually move to safety when they are old and play well. Champ has the ballhawking abilities to make him one of the most dangerous safeties in the league, perhaps like an Ed Read. As we all know, Champ doesn't shy away from contact either. Hopefully Karl P moves into nickleback then.

fixed.

ludo21 · 11-08-2005, 08:17 AM

Good idea, buti dont think so, in a league where 3 WR is so prevalent id rather keep Champ at CB and then just draft a Safety and see how Brandon and Browner turn out.

BMF Bronco · 11-08-2005, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

fixed.

now that's just mean

Rascal · 11-08-2005, 08:19 AM

That's pretty lame Maverick. Didn't realize we were in school.

Regarding the actual post. I personally like the idea of having a "shut down" CB that you can leave on an island, but when champ starts to lose a step or two I think it would be a good move to put him at safety if he can take the punishment.

But I would prefer not to wait till then to find a replacement for Lynch...by the time that happens he will be 40.

!!

maven · 11-08-2005, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by llayne

I have a question to pose to you guys. If Foxworth and DW develop do you think the Broncos consider moving Champ to safty? Before everone tears this idea apart my thinking is this: Most great coners eventually move to safty when they are old and play well. Champ has the ballhawking abilities to make him one of the most dangerous safies in the leauge, perhaps like an Ed Read. As we al know Champ dosn't shy away from contact either. Hopefully Karl P moves into nickle back then.

Hell no! Champ is way better than those 2 will ever be!

Play2win · 11-08-2005, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

fixed.

what a goon. the only thing that needs to be "fixed" is someone like a dog is "fixed"

LAME!!!

Play2win · 11-08-2005, 08:46 AM

BTW- this whole thread is lame. Lame thread because of a Lame premise. Lets see how Champ does when not (or only slightly) injured when he actually has had a year in the system to learn it (unlike last year).

This thread is DOOMED, DOOMED I say, DOOOOMMMMEEDD!!!!

Garcia Bronco · 11-08-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by maven

Hell no! Champ is way better than those 2 will ever be!

And Ray Crockkett was better than Champ at this point in his career technically

Broncoman13 · 11-08-2005, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

fixed.

You've got major league problems/issues. I can't believe you spent the time to fix his post... you need to get a job!

Play2win · 11-08-2005, 08:53 AM

Ray Crockett was the MAN, when we needed him most, he came through with flying colors...

Broncoman13 · 11-08-2005, 08:54 AM

I say we draft Jimmy Williams or Michael Huff and not worry about moving Champ anywhere!

Play2win · 11-08-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OSKIE

You've got major league problems/issues. I can't believe you spent the time to fix his post... you need to get a job!

He needs to be FIXED, Like a Dog...

Garcia Bronco · 11-08-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OSKIE

I say we draft Jimmy Williams or Michael Huff and not worry about moving Champ anywhere!

Jimmy Williams suffers from Lenny Walls Disease

El Guapo · 11-08-2005, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OSKIE

You've got major league problems/issues. I can't believe you spent the time to fix his post... you need to get a job!

Thanks for the positive responses. Im glad to see that you all dont mind answering questions to people that cant even think logically enough to type it out properly.

Its a pet peeve. to those other haters, I do have a job.. a very nice one. One nice enough to where I get today off (paid) because its "voting day."

DarkHorse · 11-08-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

Thanks for the positive responses. Im glad to see that you all dont mind answering questions to people that cant even think logically enough to type it out properly.

Its a pet peeve. to those other haters, I do have a job.. a very nice one. One nice enough to where I get today off (paid) because its "voting day."

Yeah well it's a pet peeve of mine too but you don't see me correcting everyone's posts. Deal with it, comment, and move on but don't be a dickhead and throw the guy under a bus by correcting his posts. It's a message board not a classroom.

And to reply to the post - i'd move Champ in about 2 years before he actually loses a step. He's a good corner and would make a fine FS but give him 2 years or so to put on about 10-15lbs more.

El Guapo · 11-08-2005, 10:15 AM

it was a bit of sarcasm as well.. everytime i try and be the least bit sarcastic or funny on these forums the old men here get their depends stuck up their butts.

Im a moderator on another forum and we blast newbs to high hell if they cant type out stuff properly, we also have fun with it. If the newb can hack it, then thats +1 for him. you need to remove the log from your butt.

Kaylore · 11-08-2005, 11:02 AM

I'm more interested in seeing how another converted corner we got in Brandon Browner works out at safety. At 6'4" 220, he was a very physical corner in college who seems like a natural fit at safety (and apparently we weren't the only ones who thought so).

After hurting his wrist in the preseason, he was stashed on injured reserved where he has been able to rehab back to full health and now spends his time watching game film and learning our system - to say nothing of the PT he's doing for rehab. The guy was able to climb from the fourth team to the second in a matter of weeks. It will be interesting to see how he pans out this next offseason.

orange 4 life · 11-08-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

BTW- this whole thread is lame. Lame thread because of a Lame premise. Lets see how Champ does when not (or only slightly) injured when he actually has had a year in the system to learn it (unlike last year).

This thread is DOOMED, DOOMED I say, DOOOOMMMMEEDD!!!!

for all the heat champ has come under (in large part because of the success of the youngsters who are cheap), you have to recognize that he's been playing hurt, and he's been playing pretty darn well all things considered.

remind me how many catched owens had in the first half?
none.

sure, he caught the 92 yarder, but that was one play, and it was bound to happen when you put him on an island for 3 full quarters.

also, does anyone bother to wonder how much champ is a part of these kids' success?
williams and foxworth have BOTH said that champs tutelage has been invaluable.

lockdown corners are not what they used to be in the nfl, but that said, champ is still great at what he does, he brings experience and leadership, and i think we'll need him down the stretch.
this bye week couldnt have come at a better time.
lets just hope he's healthy, and i think we'll see alot of good things from him.

...and again, remember every time you watch one of the rookies make a play that some of the reason theyre making those plays is because of what they learned from champ.

jake

orange 4 life · 11-08-2005, 11:10 AM

and play 2 win,

obviously that post wasnt directed at you.

Play2win · 11-08-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by orange 4 life

and play 2 win,

obviously that post wasnt directed at you.

No Worries, Mate. Your's was a great post and addition to this thread.

Elway 4 Life · 11-08-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

it was a bit of sarcasm as well.. everytime i try and be the least bit sarcastic or funny on these forums the old men here get their depends stuck up their butts.

Im a moderator on another forum and we blast newbs to high hell if they cant type out stuff properly, we also have fun with it. If the newb can hack it, then thats +1 for him. you need to remove the log from your butt.

Grow the **** up!

Play2win · 11-08-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

Grow the **** up!

Quoted for TRUTH!!!

CBF1 · 11-08-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

fixed.

I for one thought it was funny. But our spelling champ did not correct the mis spelling of Ed READ.... lmao

Rep if I could

El Guapo · 11-08-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

I for one thought it was funny. But our spelling champ did not correct the mis spelling of Ed READ.... lmao

Rep if I could

I actually looked at it, but decided not to. It took me a whole 2 min to go in and fix it and these guys are acting like its some great accomplishment that took days.

and thanks, at least one person found some humor in it.

To the ones that are saying to grow up... uh, last i checked I was the one correcting things while they wanted things to remain childish. so, right back at ya!

and to everyone else, thanks for all the (silent, but) positive rep!

11-08-2005, 08:06 AM	#1
llayne Solid Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 128	Champ-long term? I have a question to pose to you guys. If Foxworth and DW develop do you think the Broncos consider moving Champ to safty? Before everone tears this idea apart my thinking is this: Most great coners eventually move to safty when they are old and play well. Champ has the ballhawking abilities to make him one of the most dangerous safies in the leauge, perhaps like an Ed Read. As we al know Champ dosn't shy away from contact either. Hopefully Karl P moves into nickle back then.

11-08-2005, 10:15 AM	#17
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,445	it was a bit of sarcasm as well.. everytime i try and be the least bit sarcastic or funny on these forums the old men here get their depends stuck up their butts. Im a moderator on another forum and we blast newbs to high hell if they cant type out stuff properly, we also have fun with it. If the newb can hack it, then thats +1 for him. you need to remove the log from your butt. Last edited by El Guapo; 11-08-2005 at 10:17 AM..

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11-08-2005, 08:17 AM	#3
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,906 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Good idea, buti dont think so, in a league where 3 WR is so prevalent id rather keep Champ at CB and then just draft a Safety and see how Brandon and Browner turn out.

11-08-2005, 08:19 AM	#5
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	That's pretty lame Maverick. Didn't realize we were in school. Regarding the actual post. I personally like the idea of having a "shut down" CB that you can leave on an island, but when champ starts to lose a step or two I think it would be a good move to put him at safety if he can take the punishment. But I would prefer not to wait till then to find a replacement for Lynch...by the time that happens he will be 40. !!

11-08-2005, 08:46 AM	#8
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	BTW- this whole thread is lame. Lame thread because of a Lame premise. Lets see how Champ does when not (or only slightly) injured when he actually has had a year in the system to learn it (unlike last year). This thread is DOOMED, DOOMED I say, DOOOOMMMMEEDD!!!!

11-08-2005, 08:53 AM	#11
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	Ray Crockett was the MAN, when we needed him most, he came through with flying colors...

11-08-2005, 08:54 AM	#12
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	I say we draft Jimmy Williams or Michael Huff and not worry about moving Champ anywhere!

11-08-2005, 11:02 AM	#18
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,054 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I'm more interested in seeing how another converted corner we got in Brandon Browner works out at safety. At 6'4" 220, he was a very physical corner in college who seems like a natural fit at safety (and apparently we weren't the only ones who thought so). After hurting his wrist in the preseason, he was stashed on injured reserved where he has been able to rehab back to full health and now spends his time watching game film and learning our system - to say nothing of the PT he's doing for rehab. The guy was able to climb from the fourth team to the second in a matter of weeks. It will be interesting to see how he pans out this next offseason.

11-08-2005, 11:10 AM	#20
orange 4 life Old School Orange Home team qb homer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Anywhere, CO. Posts: 8,642	and play 2 win, obviously that post wasnt directed at you.