KFC Star thinks Chefs are OLD! - The Orange Mane

broncosteven · 10-31-2005, 11:20 AM

Old age catches up to Chiefs

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/13039886.htm

JASON WHITLOCK

SAN DIEGO — The funny thing about old age is everyone sees it on you long before you realize the toll it’s taken on your body.

You get out of bed a little stiffly and assume you’re just having a bad day. You lose 30 seconds on your 1-mile pace and blame it on the breakfast you skipped.

You fly out to the land of sun and fun, and Antonio Gates runs rings around you, Shawne Merriman runs over you, and the San Diego Chargers maintain a double-digit lead most of the afternoon before settling for a 28-20 victory, and you think a poor first half explains everything.

“Obviously, it’s two games — the first half and the second half,” Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil rationalized after his team’s eight-point loss to the Chargers. “In the first half, we were zero for 6 in third-down conversions, and they were staying on the field. In the second half, we do a much better job, but we get down there and settle for three points rather than touchdowns.”

That, of course, is one possible explanation for the Chargers outscoring the Chiefs 21-3 in the first 30 minutes and the Chiefs outscoring the Chargers 17-7 in the final 30 minutes.

The truthful explanation, however, is that the Chiefs looked way too old, way too slow and way too out of date to keep pace with the Chargers. More than at any time this year, the Chiefs looked stale on Sunday inside Qualcomm Stadium.

They looked like a team that hasn’t evolved offensively in the last three years — all the pre-snap shifting and motion seem pointless now — and doesn’t have an in-his-prime, big-time playmaker on either side of the ball.

Take away returner Dante Hall, and KC’s Pro Bowlers all looked like San Diego table scraps.

Gates laid claim to Tony Gonzalez’s title as the league’s best tight end, catching 10 passes for 145 yards and three touchdowns. Gates, a third-year pro, toyed with Kansas City’s veteran safeties Sammy Knight and Jerome Woods. Knight couldn’t tackle Gates, and Woods couldn’t cover Gates.

Merriman, a rookie linebacker, dominated the Chiefs’ aging offensive line in pass-rush situations, recording two sacks. Merriman muscled past nine-year vet Jason Dunn and forced a Trent Green fumble. Merriman also got the best of future Hall of Famer Willie Roaf.

“They did a good job; hats off to them,” Roaf said. “I had a tough day.”

Rookie defensive end Luis Castillo also enjoyed success against KC’s offensive line. Castillo was credited with 1.5 sacks. The Chargers sacked Green four times and pressured him all afternoon.

“They hit (Trent) too many times,” Vermeil said.

Dunn added: “They attacked us from the outside. That’s what we do best — attack the corners.”

Read more here:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/13039886.htm

Tredici · 10-31-2005, 11:28 AM

They looked like a team that hasn’t evolved offensively in the last three years — all the pre-snap shifting and motion seem pointless now — and doesn’t have an in-his-prime, big-time playmaker on either side of the ball.

But... but.... why should they have to evolve? This is the NFL. Nothing changes. No one ever makes adjustments. The number one ranked offense can operate on it's reputation not reality.

“They hit (Trent) too many times,” Vermeil said.

San Diego had Trent for an appetizer. I think our defense is going to have a meal.

brncs_fan · 10-31-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

You fly out to the land of sun and fun, and Antonio Gates runs rings around you, Shawne Merriman runs over you, and the San Diego Chargers maintain a double-digit lead most of the afternoon before settling for a 28-20 victory, and you think a poor first half explains everything.

That, of course, is one possible explanation for the Chargers outscoring the Chiefs 21-3 in the first 30 minutes and the Chiefs outscoring the Chargers 17-7 in the final 30 minutes.

Gates laid claim to Tony Gonzalez’s title as the league’s best tight end, catching 10 passes for 145 yards and three touchdowns. Gates, a third-year pro, toyed with Kansas City’s veteran safeties Sammy Knight and Jerome Woods. Knight couldn’t tackle Gates, and Woods couldn’t cover Gates.

How about that improved _efense

Phantom · 10-31-2005, 11:35 AM

Looks like the Broncos in Arrowhead is going to be their Super Bowl - again.

broncosteven · 10-31-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

How about that improved _efense

Goonther!

It is no fun mocking Chefs with no Trolls around...wait I guess the nature of a troll is to troll & not post when your team loses after all!

broncosteven · 10-31-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

How about that improved _efense

Dj is a monster & The Red Knight is awesome! BWHHHAAAAAAAAA

I lied it is fun mocking Chefs

brncs_fan · 10-31-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

Goonther!

It is no fun mocking Chefs with no Trolls around...wait I guess the nature of a troll is to troll & not post when your team loses after all!

Speaking of which, where is Boob?

broncosteven · 10-31-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

Speaking of which, where is Boob?

Crying under his Star Wars pillow covers in his room in his daddy's basement.

Meck77 · 10-31-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brncs_fan

Speaking of which, where is Boob?

He left when things weren't going his way it appears. Alot of your Bob type posters are gone.

Didn't Holmes get a concussion? DV says he's fine. I'm not so sure.

bendog · 10-31-2005, 12:07 PM

ummmm, I thought "evolution" was tandamount to satanism in Missouri.

(it is down here!)

Jetmeck · 10-31-2005, 12:13 PM

Jason usually cuts you no slack, they are old. They have been told for several years now the window of opportunity was closing. Obviously they are not what they used to be offensively.

crazyhorse · 10-31-2005, 12:14 PM

You folks are pretty full of yourselves. Gonna be sweet watching the new faders begin thier slide. I can already see it in the defense.

Jetmeck · 10-31-2005, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

You folks are pretty full of yourselves. Gonna be sweet watching the new faders begin thier slide. I can already see it in the defense.

Yeah gonna be great rolling your boys in their own backyard. I mean the Eagles took ya'.

crazyhorse · 10-31-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Yeah gonna be great rolling your boys in their own backyard. I mean the Eagles took ya'.

Not as bad as the Dolphins beat on you. But then, that means nothing. How well you been doing in Arrowhead lately?

Yeah.....

The point is there is a lot of football left. You had better pray we dont move in front of you. You guys cant take it as well as you dish it.

Jetmeck · 10-31-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Not as bad as the Dolphins beat on you. But then, that means nothing. How well you been doing in Arrowhead lately?

Yeah.....

The point is there is a lot of football left. You had better pray we dont move in front of you. You guys cant take it as well as you dish it.

Point is, your boys cannot protect home field this year.....

You know you are right I can't take it as well as I dish it out, but then I am not over on the Chefs board dishing it out am I. On the other hand ...........Do you know where you are ?

NaptownChief · 10-31-2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Point is, your boys cannot protect home field this year.....

And you guys haven't been good on the road...1-2....so what exactly is your point again?

Jetmeck · 10-31-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

And you guys haven't been good on the road...1-2....so what exactly is your point again?

I think a 30-10 domination might say different. Your boys are slipping, we have been in every game to the end but one, have you ?

Jetmeck · 10-31-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

I think a 30-10 domination might say different. Your boys are slipping, we have been in every game to the end but one, have you ?

Besides we will just BOOT your A$$ to death, according to NFL.com the Chefs own the single game record for
being fooled on the boot. Honestly it works nowhere
as good against any other team.

NaptownChief · 10-31-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetmeck

I think a 30-10 domination might say different. Your boys are slipping, we have been in every game to the end but one, have you ?

Well the Donks have had 5 homes games so far and the Chiefs only 3. We will see how it plays out. Enjoy your mid-season Super Bowl while it last. But regardless of what happens in the AFC West I can sleep well knowing that the Donks 3000 pound gorilla will be here in Indy waiting to take care of them in the usual beat down fashion.

Darkhawk24 · 10-31-2005, 12:40 PM

Chief fan comeback in 2005:

"Who cares if the Chiefs suck... The Colts will beat you!"

bendog · 10-31-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Well the Donks have had 5 homes games so far and the Chiefs only 3. We will see how it plays out. Enjoy your mid-season Super Bowl while it last. But regardless of what happens in the AFC West I can sleep well knowing that the Donks 3000 pound gorilla will be here in Indy waiting to take care of them in the usual beat down fashion.

Damn, and I thought my life was frigging bleak.

NaptownChief · 10-31-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bendog

Damn, and I thought my life was frigging bleak.

You gotta find your positives where you can....Watching Manning's ritual playoff beating of the Donks is not a bad consolation prize especially if the Colts can roll that up into a Super Bowl W.

Priest Dante · 10-31-2005, 12:56 PM

The Chiefs looked like crap on Sunday for alot of the game, anyone could have seen that. I don't blame it on age though ,I blame it on Al Saunders' gutless game planning. Once Trent started going downfield, taking advantage of The Charger's crap secondary, The Chiefs were able to keep pace with The Chargers ,but unfortunately it was too late. This probably is the last chance the Trent/Gonzo/Holmes version of The Chiefs has to do some damage in the playoffs. But as long as Al Saunders calls the same gameplan against every team and doesn't take advantage of individual team's weaknesses, it will just be another wasted season.

Also the O-line played with no heart. Roaf holding!...wtf is that!?

bendog · 10-31-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Priest Dante

The Chiefs looked like crap on Sunday for alot of the game, anyone could have seen that. I don't blame it on age though ,I blame it on Al Saunders' gutless game planning. Once Trent started going downfield, taking advantage of The Charger's crap secondary, The Chiefs were able to keep pace with The Chargers ,but unfortunately it was too late. This probably is the last chance the Trent/Gonzo/Holmes version of The Chiefs has to do some damage in the playoffs. But as long as Al Saunders calls the same gameplan against every team and doesn't take advantage of individual team's weaknesses, it will just be another wasted season.

Also the O-line played with no heart. Roaf holding!...wtf is that!?

Willie so old and fat, he need help standing up.

Circle Orange · 10-31-2005, 01:07 PM

Last time I checked, the Chargers needed a big defensive stand near the goal line one time, and another time the Chiefs were close and turned the ball over. So that's potentially 14 points on the carpet. Old age has nothing to do with it. I laugh when middle aged (40-60

) call people in their 30s old. What the hell would you call them at 75-90, then

I'm no apologist for the big red, but they came off a punishing game at Miami. Trent's dad died. So there are always other factors. It's not like the Chargers ran them out of the stadium.

10-31-2005, 11:20 AM	#1
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,003 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	KFC Star thinks Chefs are OLD! Old age catches up to Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/13039886.htm JASON WHITLOCK SAN DIEGO — The funny thing about old age is everyone sees it on you long before you realize the toll it’s taken on your body. You get out of bed a little stiffly and assume you’re just having a bad day. You lose 30 seconds on your 1-mile pace and blame it on the breakfast you skipped. You fly out to the land of sun and fun, and Antonio Gates runs rings around you, Shawne Merriman runs over you, and the San Diego Chargers maintain a double-digit lead most of the afternoon before settling for a 28-20 victory, and you think a poor first half explains everything. “Obviously, it’s two games — the first half and the second half,” Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil rationalized after his team’s eight-point loss to the Chargers. “In the first half, we were zero for 6 in third-down conversions, and they were staying on the field. In the second half, we do a much better job, but we get down there and settle for three points rather than touchdowns.” That, of course, is one possible explanation for the Chargers outscoring the Chiefs 21-3 in the first 30 minutes and the Chiefs outscoring the Chargers 17-7 in the final 30 minutes. The truthful explanation, however, is that the Chiefs looked way too old, way too slow and way too out of date to keep pace with the Chargers. More than at any time this year, the Chiefs looked stale on Sunday inside Qualcomm Stadium. They looked like a team that hasn’t evolved offensively in the last three years — all the pre-snap shifting and motion seem pointless now — and doesn’t have an in-his-prime, big-time playmaker on either side of the ball. Take away returner Dante Hall, and KC’s Pro Bowlers all looked like San Diego table scraps. Gates laid claim to Tony Gonzalez’s title as the league’s best tight end, catching 10 passes for 145 yards and three touchdowns. Gates, a third-year pro, toyed with Kansas City’s veteran safeties Sammy Knight and Jerome Woods. Knight couldn’t tackle Gates, and Woods couldn’t cover Gates. Merriman, a rookie linebacker, dominated the Chiefs’ aging offensive line in pass-rush situations, recording two sacks. Merriman muscled past nine-year vet Jason Dunn and forced a Trent Green fumble. Merriman also got the best of future Hall of Famer Willie Roaf. “They did a good job; hats off to them,” Roaf said. “I had a tough day.” Rookie defensive end Luis Castillo also enjoyed success against KC’s offensive line. Castillo was credited with 1.5 sacks. The Chargers sacked Green four times and pressured him all afternoon. “They hit (Trent) too many times,” Vermeil said. Dunn added: “They attacked us from the outside. That’s what we do best — attack the corners.” Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/13039886.htm

10-31-2005, 01:07 PM	#25
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	Last time I checked, the Chargers needed a big defensive stand near the goal line one time, and another time the Chiefs were close and turned the ball over. So that's potentially 14 points on the carpet. Old age has nothing to do with it. I laugh when middle aged (40-60) call people in their 30s old. What the hell would you call them at 75-90, then I'm no apologist for the big red, but they came off a punishing game at Miami. Trent's dad died. So there are always other factors. It's not like the Chargers ran them out of the stadium.

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10-31-2005, 11:28 AM	#2
Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	They looked like a team that hasn’t evolved offensively in the last three years — all the pre-snap shifting and motion seem pointless now — and doesn’t have an in-his-prime, big-time playmaker on either side of the ball. But... but.... why should they have to evolve? This is the NFL. Nothing changes. No one ever makes adjustments. The number one ranked offense can operate on it's reputation not reality. “They hit (Trent) too many times,” Vermeil said. San Diego had Trent for an appetizer. I think our defense is going to have a meal.

10-31-2005, 11:35 AM	#4
Phantom Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,179	Looks like the Broncos in Arrowhead is going to be their Super Bowl - again.

10-31-2005, 12:07 PM	#10
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	ummmm, I thought "evolution" was tandamount to satanism in Missouri. (it is down here!)

10-31-2005, 12:13 PM	#11
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,376	Jason usually cuts you no slack, they are old. They have been told for several years now the window of opportunity was closing. Obviously they are not what they used to be offensively.

10-31-2005, 12:14 PM	#12
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	You folks are pretty full of yourselves. Gonna be sweet watching the new faders begin thier slide. I can already see it in the defense.

10-31-2005, 12:40 PM	#20
Darkhawk24 Draft Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3,552	Chief fan comeback in 2005: "Who cares if the Chiefs suck... The Colts will beat you!"

10-31-2005, 12:56 PM	#23
Priest Dante Solid Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: KC Posts: 248	The Chiefs looked like crap on Sunday for alot of the game, anyone could have seen that. I don't blame it on age though ,I blame it on Al Saunders' gutless game planning. Once Trent started going downfield, taking advantage of The Charger's crap secondary, The Chiefs were able to keep pace with The Chargers ,but unfortunately it was too late. This probably is the last chance the Trent/Gonzo/Holmes version of The Chiefs has to do some damage in the playoffs. But as long as Al Saunders calls the same gameplan against every team and doesn't take advantage of individual team's weaknesses, it will just be another wasted season. Also the O-line played with no heart. Roaf holding!...wtf is that!?