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in awe · 10-31-2005, 09:52 AM

in the usa today rankings

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm

Taco John · 10-31-2005, 09:53 AM

I don't understand how we could be higher than an undefeated team that we can't seem to beat.

Oh well. It's only rankings.

Elway 4 Life · 10-31-2005, 09:54 AM

I think we are the best team in football for 3 quarters. When we can put a full 4 quarter performance together it should be somethin to watch.

ludo21 · 10-31-2005, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in awe

in the usa today rankings

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm

Chargers are #3 so that goes to show the reliability there.

What kinda system do they go off of anyway?

eddie mac · 10-31-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't understand how we could be higher than an undefeated team that we can't seem to beat.

Oh well. It's only rankings.

Probably cos they didn't play TJ.

ludo21 · 10-31-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

I think we are the best team in football for 3 quarters. When we can put a full 4 quarter performance together it should be somethin to watch.

21 points in last games 4th quarter not enough for you?

eddie mac · 10-31-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Chargers are #3 so that goes to show the reliability there.

What kinda system do they go off of anyway?

We're clearly number 1 in the Rankings for giving our fans heart attacks in the 2nd half and for sales of adult diapers.

Taco John · 10-31-2005, 09:57 AM

I've got a lot of respect for that Indy team. They are winning in a very scary way, because they're not having to use Peyton Manning. They're playing conservative offense, and only unleash Manning if it's necessary. That's worrisome.

Their defense seems to be pretty good too, though I'd like to see them get tested more.

Tredici · 10-31-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't understand how we could be higher than an undefeated team that we can't seem to beat.

Oh well. It's only rankings.

I think their statistical data points out why. Best guess is strength of schedule.

Crushaholic · 10-31-2005, 09:57 AM

The AFC West is apparently deemed the toughest division in the AFC, and that's why we are at the top of the charts...

chanesaw · 10-31-2005, 09:58 AM

I think schedule strenght hurts the Colts' ranking.

PatsWin2002 · 10-31-2005, 09:59 AM

Indy's schedule strength is so much lower than any of the other contenders.

Elway 4 Life · 10-31-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

21 points in last games 4th quarter not enough for you?

Were you in the bathroom during the 3rd quarter? That's when we scored 0 points and gave up 14. We took the quarter off..........

ludo21 · 10-31-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I've got a lot of respect for that Indy team. They are winning in a very scary way, because they're not having to use Peyton Manning. They're playing conservative offense, and only unleash Manning if it's necessary. That's worrisome.

Their defense seems to be pretty good too, though I'd like to see them get tested more.

They are going to be a tough team to beat for sure. They havent played anyone, but even if they do, they have a ton of talent.

ludo21 · 10-31-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

Were you in the bathroom during the 3rd quarter? That's when we scored 0 points and gave up 14. We took the quarter off..........

shoot, i thought you said 4th quarter, but i re read and you said 4 quarters. My bad, and i agree.

Rascal · 10-31-2005, 10:03 AM

It is a combination of points and actual victories. It also includes the schedule difficulty.

If you look you will notice the chargers have the hardest schedule, which I agree, followed by Redskins, Eagles, Jags, Chiefs, and then the Broncos.

I think the Chargers are a top 8 team despite their record, they have just faced some tough opponents.

Meck77 · 10-31-2005, 10:04 AM

Ranking shmanking.......bring on the bye week!

Oh and **** the raiders.......

Elway 4 Life · 10-31-2005, 10:19 AM

Rankings mean nothing.....I remember reading that this was the Eagles year sometime in the preseason. Also read that new england was the team to beat. Rankings are just a way to get mediocre analysts something to do. The only ranking I care about is our division. If we win our division then we are in the playoffs!!!!!

Phantom · 10-31-2005, 10:32 AM

Sport talk radio this morning .... "I think the Chargers are the best team in the AFC, remember they had to play both Super Bowl teams ..... the best teams in the AFC - the Steelers, Colts, Patriots, Chargers, Cincy ..... blah, blah, blah"

Disclaimer .... it was Golic

Are you kidding me - hey dumb ****, the Broncos also played both Super Bowl teams - crushed 'em and also beat your beloved Chargers, but not even mentioned in the top 5 of the AFC......?

It takes a computer program to erase all bias and predisposition to claim the mighty Broncos as the TEAM TO BEAT.

ludo21 · 10-31-2005, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom

Sport talk radio this morning .... "I think the Chargers are the best team in the AFC, remember they had to play both Super Bowl teams ..... the best teams in the AFC - the Steelers, Colts, Patriots, Chargers, Cincy ..... blah, blah, blah"

Disclaimer .... it was Golic

Are you kidding me - hey dumb ****, the Broncos also played both Super Bowl teams - crushed 'em and also beat your beloved Chargers, but not even mentioned in the top 5 of the AFC......?

It takes a computer program to erase all bias and predisposition to claim the mighty Broncos as the TEAM TO BEAT.

Im use to it. I mean every year we are a contender, but the SuperChargers have 5 straight losing seasons then come out as a good team for a year and are now considered the best. Where is the logic?

I stopped caring awhile ago, i respect what the guys say, but they obviously dont watch every game and have a total bias.

Garcia Bronco · 10-31-2005, 10:56 AM

MAthmatically we are number 1....awesome....hopefully we can build on this.

Arkie · 10-31-2005, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludo21

Chargers are #3 so that goes to show the reliability there.

What kinda system do they go off of anyway?

In ELO CHESS, the Chargers are #10 and the Colts are #1. But, that gives up accuracy for political correctness. The Colts aren't as good as their record and the Chargers are better than their record.

In ELO CHESS, only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence,
which makes it very "politically correct". However it is less accurate in its predictions for
upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS, in which the score margin is the only thing that matters.
PURE POINTS is also known as PREDICTOR, BALLANTINE, RHEINGOLD, WHITE OWL and is the best single PREDICTOR
of future games.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The overall RATING is a synthesis of the two diametrical opposites, ELO CHESS and PURE POINTS (PREDICTOR).

Broncoman13 · 10-31-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by in awe

in the usa today rankings

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm

I don't put much stock in being #1 in their ranking... not as much as I read into the fact that we've beat the teams they list as 12, 11, 10, 9, 6, and 3!!!

We have one of the toughest schedules and the only reason teams like SD and KC have tougher schedules is b/c we have more wins than them!

I can't tell you how happy I am to be 6-2 at the break. This team is very good. We could eaily be 7-1... but without that Giants Loss I'm not sure we regain our focus. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing this team lose one more... for the simple fact that our focus after a loss seems to last for about 5 weeks! Say we lose the Buffalo game on the road. We then go on to win vs the Faid and Chargers to close out the season. Get a first round bye with a 13-3 or 12-4 record... Bounce the (11-5) Steelers in Denver (w#3), beat the Colts (who end up w a 12-4 record and come to DENVER! for w#4), and then pay back the Giants team in Detroit for a SB victory!!! W #5 in a row! I can dream with the best of them!

boltaneer · 10-31-2005, 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=OSKIE]We have one of the toughest schedules and the only reason teams like SD and KC have tougher schedules is b/c we have more wins than them!

QUOTE]

The reason SD has a harder schedule is because Denver played the Super Bowl teams at home, while SD had to play them on the road. SD gets Indy (on the road) and Pittsburgh instead of Baltimore and Jacksonville.

Broncoman13 · 10-31-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Chargers are #3 so that goes to show the reliability there.

What kinda system do they go off of anyway?

Two things. First, SD Will make the playoffs. They will probably end up w/a 10-6 record. Second, I hope that we don't go into SD to close out the season w/the division on the line. They ARE a very good team.

This is probably a bit premature but here are my playoff teams from the AFC halfway through the season.

Indy (12-4 or 13-3 record) They have some very hard games in the 2nd half. Travel to NE, Cincy, Jax, and Seattle. They host Pitt and SD. That's a tough draw!!!
Denver (12-4 possibly 13-3 WCS 11-5) @KC and @SD are the games that scare me the most. @Dallas is no walk either. Buffalo is playing better. Oakland has won 3 of 4. The good news, we'll be forced to stay sharp each and every week! Balt and the Jets look like the only easy games...relatively speaking)
Pitt (13-3 possibly 12-4) They could very well end up with the #1 seed. Here's who they have to closeout the year with. Balt, @GB, Clev, @Balt, @Indy, Cincy, Chic, @ Minn, @Clev, Detroit. There is one game in there that I question whether or not they'll win... @ INDY. They may have 5 road games to close out the year, but they're against the right teams!!!
NE (10-6 maybe 11-5) Dillon needs to get healthy. Bruschi brings a lot back to that team.
San Diego (10-6 possibly 11-5) I know a lot of you think I'm crazy. The Chargers have played a tough schedule and their D is only getting better. They have two tough games @KC and @Indy... if they win either of those they'll likely face us with a 10-5 record.
Cincy (10-6) Put me in the category of doubters when it comes to the Bengals. I think they are an up and coming team but they've had the advantage of playing the likes of the Bears, Vikings, and Packers. They still get to play the Lions as well. Don't know about the rest of you, but I'd much rather play the NFC Norris than the NFC East! Anyhow, their 2nd half schedule doesn't look very scary either. They have to play Indy, @Pitt, and @KC. Hopefully they'll lose another one in there somewhere!

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10-31-2005, 09:52 AM	#1
in awe Get some lotion Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 129	wow were #1 in the usa today rankings http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/nfl05.htm

10-31-2005, 09:53 AM	#2
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I don't understand how we could be higher than an undefeated team that we can't seem to beat. Oh well. It's only rankings.

10-31-2005, 09:54 AM	#3
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I think we are the best team in football for 3 quarters. When we can put a full 4 quarter performance together it should be somethin to watch.

10-31-2005, 09:57 AM	#8
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I've got a lot of respect for that Indy team. They are winning in a very scary way, because they're not having to use Peyton Manning. They're playing conservative offense, and only unleash Manning if it's necessary. That's worrisome. Their defense seems to be pretty good too, though I'd like to see them get tested more.

10-31-2005, 09:57 AM	#10
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	The AFC West is apparently deemed the toughest division in the AFC, and that's why we are at the top of the charts...

10-31-2005, 09:58 AM	#11
chanesaw Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis Dumervil	I think schedule strenght hurts the Colts' ranking.

10-31-2005, 09:59 AM	#12
PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	Indy's schedule strength is so much lower than any of the other contenders.

10-31-2005, 10:03 AM	#16
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	It is a combination of points and actual victories. It also includes the schedule difficulty. If you look you will notice the chargers have the hardest schedule, which I agree, followed by Redskins, Eagles, Jags, Chiefs, and then the Broncos. I think the Chargers are a top 8 team despite their record, they have just faced some tough opponents.

10-31-2005, 10:04 AM	#17
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,310	Ranking shmanking.......bring on the bye week! Oh and **** the raiders.......

10-31-2005, 10:19 AM	#18
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Rankings mean nothing.....I remember reading that this was the Eagles year sometime in the preseason. Also read that new england was the team to beat. Rankings are just a way to get mediocre analysts something to do. The only ranking I care about is our division. If we win our division then we are in the playoffs!!!!!

10-31-2005, 10:32 AM	#19
Phantom Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,179	Sport talk radio this morning .... "I think the Chargers are the best team in the AFC, remember they had to play both Super Bowl teams ..... the best teams in the AFC - the Steelers, Colts, Patriots, Chargers, Cincy ..... blah, blah, blah" Disclaimer .... it was Golic Are you kidding me - hey dumb ****, the Broncos also played both Super Bowl teams - crushed 'em and also beat your beloved Chargers, but not even mentioned in the top 5 of the AFC......? It takes a computer program to erase all bias and predisposition to claim the mighty Broncos as the TEAM TO BEAT.

10-31-2005, 10:56 AM	#21
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	MAthmatically we are number 1....awesome....hopefully we can build on this.

10-31-2005, 01:31 PM	#24
boltaneer 17 ATTA BABY! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: America's Finest City Posts: 4,066	[QUOTE=OSKIE]We have one of the toughest schedules and the only reason teams like SD and KC have tougher schedules is b/c we have more wins than them! QUOTE] The reason SD has a harder schedule is because Denver played the Super Bowl teams at home, while SD had to play them on the road. SD gets Indy (on the road) and Pittsburgh instead of Baltimore and Jacksonville.