Has Plummer Turned Into The QB That Everyone Thought He Could Be?...merged - The Orange Mane

GonzoLays · 10-30-2005, 05:40 PM

Season Stats:

12 Touchdowns 3 Interceptions 1700 yards passing through 8 games

He hasn't thrown and interception in the last six games we have played.

Out of all the QBs in the AFC West, who would you want at this point leading your team into the playoffs: Trent Green, Drew Brees, Kerry Collins or Jake "the snake" Plummer?

Jake wins hands down. IF he keeps playing at this level and we keep on winning, he has to be considered an MVP canidate.

Willynowei · 10-30-2005, 05:41 PM

He threw in the pocket today.

He threw OUTS today!

He threw FADES today!

He threw CROSSING ROUTES today!

He threw for 300 yards and 4 tds....

OMGOSH WE HAVE A LEGIT QB! HE'S COMPLETE!

*knocks on wood*

OrangeShadow · 10-30-2005, 05:42 PM

Doing it quietly(outside of bronco nation that is)

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-30-2005, 05:44 PM

Unless they win out, I have a hard time seeing 3400 yds and 24 TDs being enough for the MVP. Neither is probably going to be enough to put him in the Top 5 of either category.

Garcia Bronco · 10-30-2005, 05:48 PM

I saw him going through progressions today and stand tall in the pocket....he's finally using his brain and the study this off-season was huge for his maturation. I will no longer hold his AZ days against him. It's apparent to me now on how the coaching there didn't make Jake give in to learning defenses...he's no Peyton Manning in the mental game...but he could get close.

OrangeShadow · 10-30-2005, 05:50 PM

with our defense and running game he doesnt ahve to be a peyton manning mentaly besides thatd mean hed whine to much

chrisp · 10-30-2005, 05:51 PM

Point is he now has all the parts around him working perfectly. I'm hoping that after today Todd Devoe can be the 3rd-down posession guy we've be lacking which will really send this offense into overdrive.

If you have weapons, and more than one guy on the field who can get open you're going to start finding the open man......becuase there will actually be one.

But somehow I don't think Jake will ever get the credit he deserves.......he's playing under the shadow of Shanny and Elway and that's a pretty long shadow.

GonzoLays · 10-30-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Unless they win out, I have a hard time seeing 3400 yds and 24 TDs being enough for the MVP. Neither is probably going to be enough to put him in the Top 5 of either category.

Right now, you could honestly say that Jake might be in a league of his own when comes to the MVP. Who are his QB competitors that have winning records?

Eli Manning
Payton Manning
Carson Palmer

And you tell me who else?

No QB is blowing away the competiton with his stats this year. It really might come down to who has the best record with the most suitable stats.

Atlas · 10-30-2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Right now, you could honestly say that Jake might be in a league of his own when comes to the MVP. Who are his QB competitors that have winning records?

Eli Manning
Payton Manning
Carson Palmer

And you tell me who else?

No QB is blowing away the competiton with his stats this year. It really might come down to who has the best record with the most suitable stats.

Plummer will never get it. Shanny gets all the credit for coaching him and Denver's running game is awesome. Plummer won't get a sniff of the MVP award.

Circle Orange · 10-30-2005, 05:54 PM

He's playing well, but let's consider...

6-0 at home
0-2 on the road

MVP years include wins everywhere, not just in friendly confines. We'll see...this is still regular season. That being said, he IS playing well.

Atlas · 10-30-2005, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circle Orange

He's playing well, but let's consider...

6-0 at home
0-2 on the road

MVP years include wins everywhere, not just in friendly confines. We'll see...this is still regular season. That being said, he IS playing well.

1-1 on the road

Clockwork Orange · 10-30-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

1-1 on the road

1-2 on the road.

Atlas · 10-30-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

1-2 on the road.

Your right

Well, they are 6-2 so if they are 1-2 on the road then they are only 5-0 at home. Not 6-0

GonzoLays · 10-30-2005, 06:10 PM

He's 1-3 on the road and 5-2 at home.

I just thought I would get on the act too.

sippybrew · 10-30-2005, 06:12 PM

When Griese was our QB I was thinking how great it would be to have Jake "The Snake" Plummer. When that happened I was psyched. I was a Jake fan from the get go and I think he is proving himself to be a great QB for us.

Garcia Bronco · 10-30-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circle Orange

He's playing well, but let's consider...

6-0 at home
0-2 on the road

MVP years include wins everywhere, not just in friendly confines. We'll see...this is still regular season. That being said, he IS playing well.

Ummm Jacksonville

ludo21 · 10-30-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sippybrew

When Griese was our QB I was thinking how great it would be to have Jake "The Snake" Plummer. When that happened I was psyched. I was a Jake fan from the get go and I think he is proving himself to be a great QB for us.

as was i sippy. Ever since going to games in ASU i knew he could be special. The guy is playing mistake free football and making big plays!!

Wheres Bloody

Jake is reined in.. blah blah crap!!!

baja · 10-30-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circle Orange

He's playing well, but let's consider...

6-0 at home
0-2 on the road

MVP years include wins everywhere, not just in friendly confines. We'll see...this is still regular season. That being said, he IS playing well.

Since when is jacksonville a home game

maven · 10-30-2005, 06:21 PM

Give me a full season & playoffs. Then i'll change my sentiment regarding The Snake.

dbfan4life · 10-30-2005, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Unless they win out, I have a hard time seeing 3400 yds and 24 TDs being enough for the MVP. Neither is probably going to be enough to put him in the Top 5 of either category.

The only stat I care about is the W. I could care less about how his #'s compare to the rest of the league.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-30-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Right now, you could honestly say that Jake might be in a league of his own when comes to the MVP. Who are his QB competitors that have winning records?

Eli Manning
Payton Manning
Carson Palmer

And you tell me who else?

No QB is blowing away the competiton with his stats this year. It really might come down to who has the best record with the most suitable stats.

Up until this week, Brunell would have to be included in the mix, along with LT and Alexander, and possibly even S Moss or S Smith at WR.

They're not going to give the MVP to him simply because he plays mistake free football now, and the stats he's on pace for aren't mind-blowing.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-30-2005, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbfan4life

The only stat I care about is the W. I could care less about how his #'s compare to the rest of the league.

When the thread starter threw out that he could start to be considered for MVP, then yeah it starts to matter what his numbers look like compared to the rest of the league.

GonzoLays · 10-30-2005, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Up until this week, Brunell would have to be included in the mix, along with LT and Alexander, and possibly even S Moss or S Smith at WR.

They're not going to give the MVP to him simply because he plays mistake free football now, and the stats he's on pace for aren't mind-blowing.

First of all, WR's don't win MVP awards. Second of all, I still think IF he continues at the pace he is on AND we continue to win, he will definitely finish in the Top 5 for MVP voting. Halfway through the season, who are the top five canidates for MVP so far?

Payton Manning
Eli Manning
Carson Palmer
Jake Plummer
?

Dr. Broncenstein · 10-30-2005, 07:04 PM

He won at Jacksonville, YOU ****ING MORON!!!

I kid.....

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-30-2005, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

First of all, WR's don't win MVP awards. Second of all, I still think IF he continues at the pace he is on AND we continue to win, he will definitely finish in the Top 5 for MVP voting. Halfway through the season, who are the top five canidates for MVP so far?

Payton Manning
Eli Manning
Carson Palmer
Jake Plummer
?

That's nice that WRs don't win, Moss was on pace for a 2000+ yard season before this week, so yeah he would get consideration. You also omitted LT and Alexander, and Brunell and Bledsoe if their teams continue to win.

Jake is not going to win with just 24 TDs, stats are going to come into play in the MVP voting.

10-30-2005, 05:40 PM	#1
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	Has Plummer Turned Into The QB That Everyone Thought He Could Be?...merged Season Stats: 12 Touchdowns 3 Interceptions 1700 yards passing through 8 games He hasn't thrown and interception in the last six games we have played. Out of all the QBs in the AFC West, who would you want at this point leading your team into the playoffs: Trent Green, Drew Brees, Kerry Collins or Jake "the snake" Plummer? Jake wins hands down. IF he keeps playing at this level and we keep on winning, he has to be considered an MVP canidate.

10-30-2005, 05:41 PM	#2
Willynowei Some dude Football is a wonderful thing. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,798 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Go Plummer Thread He threw in the pocket today. He threw OUTS today! He threw FADES today! He threw CROSSING ROUTES today! He threw for 300 yards and 4 tds.... OMGOSH WE HAVE A LEGIT QB! HE'S COMPLETE! knocks on wood

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10-30-2005, 05:42 PM	#3
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	Doing it quietly(outside of bronco nation that is)

10-30-2005, 05:44 PM	#4
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Unless they win out, I have a hard time seeing 3400 yds and 24 TDs being enough for the MVP. Neither is probably going to be enough to put him in the Top 5 of either category.

10-30-2005, 05:48 PM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I saw him going through progressions today and stand tall in the pocket....he's finally using his brain and the study this off-season was huge for his maturation. I will no longer hold his AZ days against him. It's apparent to me now on how the coaching there didn't make Jake give in to learning defenses...he's no Peyton Manning in the mental game...but he could get close.

10-30-2005, 05:50 PM	#6
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	with our defense and running game he doesnt ahve to be a peyton manning mentaly besides thatd mean hed whine to much

10-30-2005, 05:51 PM	#7
chrisp Friend of the unsung Not into the football......yet Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 1,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Danny Trevathan	Point is he now has all the parts around him working perfectly. I'm hoping that after today Todd Devoe can be the 3rd-down posession guy we've be lacking which will really send this offense into overdrive. If you have weapons, and more than one guy on the field who can get open you're going to start finding the open man......becuase there will actually be one. But somehow I don't think Jake will ever get the credit he deserves.......he's playing under the shadow of Shanny and Elway and that's a pretty long shadow.

10-30-2005, 05:54 PM	#10
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	He's playing well, but let's consider... 6-0 at home 0-2 on the road MVP years include wins everywhere, not just in friendly confines. We'll see...this is still regular season. That being said, he IS playing well.

10-30-2005, 06:10 PM	#14
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	He's 1-3 on the road and 5-2 at home. I just thought I would get on the act too.

10-30-2005, 06:12 PM	#15
sippybrew Just Drafted Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 45	When Griese was our QB I was thinking how great it would be to have Jake "The Snake" Plummer. When that happened I was psyched. I was a Jake fan from the get go and I think he is proving himself to be a great QB for us.

10-30-2005, 06:21 PM	#19
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,745	Give me a full season & playoffs. Then i'll change my sentiment regarding The Snake.

10-30-2005, 07:04 PM	#24
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,618 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	He won at Jacksonville, YOU ING MORON!!! I kid.....