to blitz or not to blitz - The Orange Mane

Lidderer · 10-27-2005, 05:48 PM

http://www.protrade.com/insight/Insi...otToBlitz.html

good article

DB-Freak · 10-27-2005, 05:53 PM

http://www.protrade.com/insight/Insi...nThinking.html

To be honest, I disagree with this guy.

But I wanna hear your own opinion first Lidderer.

Lidderer · 10-27-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DB-Freak

http://www.protrade.com/insight/Insi...nThinking.html

To be honest, I disagree with this guy.

But I wanna hear your own opinion first Lidderer.

So now I have to post the link AND read it?

DB-Freak · 10-27-2005, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

So now I have to post the link AND read it?

No I didn't feel like making another thread.

Lidderer · 10-27-2005, 06:15 PM

he's pretty conservative with his conclusions, which is nice, but tallying league-wide like that fails to isolate a lot of elements(like score, like team, like player)so you'd think there'd have to be something a little more convincing, numbers-wise, in order to really sell it one way or the other.

I'll weigh in further when i see your comments, unless you're right.

DB-Freak · 10-27-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

he's pretty conservative with his conclusions, which is nice, but tallying league-wide like that fails to isolate a lot of elements(like score, like team, like player)so you'd think there'd have to be something a little more convincing, numbers-wise, in order to really sell it one way or the other.

I'll weigh in further when i see your comments, unless you're right.

Yea I don't find the numbers to convincing either.

So far I'm too lazy to find out the numbers to argue and Bell probably does rape MA in stats for the most part so it probably wont have much merit to you, but I think Mike has been more consistent in terms of short yardages and grinding and pounding the defense. I'm not so sure if Bell could put numbers like that if he runs from start to end without MA doing the dirty work before him.

But nevertheless the EY stat sounds interesting.

Lidderer · 10-27-2005, 07:07 PM

bah, i have to type this all again, so i'll just list the main points i was trying to make:

1. I was talking about the article I linked in the last post. I didnt realize you were linking to another one. Good find.

2. Bell vs Anderson

Ey is a good stat, no doubt, but the writer overlooks some key things. Namely, Tatum averages 2.0 yards per carry inside the opponents half of the field if we take out that one 34 yarder(this still gives him 29 opps.). That's worrisome. While Mike(if we exclude his 44 yard long) still measures in at a healthy 4.1 a pop.

Bell also struggles in the 4th quarter(2.3), while anderson has consistency in every quarter(3.8-4.6), and I'd rather have that "at least 4" rb than the potential big threat if we're gonna be playing in close games all the time and if we're worried about putting teams away.

While I like the big play threat, our 3rd down conversion rate is down this year, and if we're willing to sacrifice a few extra yards on 1st and 10(bell strikes me as the back who can give you -1, 2, 2,3, and the occasionaly 25) just for that rare long one, well this isn't gonna get us any closer to upping that 3rd down %.

I like the guys points, but I'm with you on the conclusion: it's wrong.

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Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	to blitz or not to blitz http://www.protrade.com/insight/Insi...otToBlitz.html good article

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10-27-2005, 05:53 PM	#2
DB-Freak The lone sack artist Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,995	http://www.protrade.com/insight/Insi...nThinking.html To be honest, I disagree with this guy. But I wanna hear your own opinion first Lidderer.

10-27-2005, 06:15 PM	#5
Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	he's pretty conservative with his conclusions, which is nice, but tallying league-wide like that fails to isolate a lot of elements(like score, like team, like player)so you'd think there'd have to be something a little more convincing, numbers-wise, in order to really sell it one way or the other. I'll weigh in further when i see your comments, unless you're right.

10-27-2005, 07:07 PM	#7
Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	bah, i have to type this all again, so i'll just list the main points i was trying to make: 1. I was talking about the article I linked in the last post. I didnt realize you were linking to another one. Good find. 2. Bell vs Anderson Ey is a good stat, no doubt, but the writer overlooks some key things. Namely, Tatum averages 2.0 yards per carry inside the opponents half of the field if we take out that one 34 yarder(this still gives him 29 opps.). That's worrisome. While Mike(if we exclude his 44 yard long) still measures in at a healthy 4.1 a pop. Bell also struggles in the 4th quarter(2.3), while anderson has consistency in every quarter(3.8-4.6), and I'd rather have that "at least 4" rb than the potential big threat if we're gonna be playing in close games all the time and if we're worried about putting teams away. While I like the big play threat, our 3rd down conversion rate is down this year, and if we're willing to sacrifice a few extra yards on 1st and 10(bell strikes me as the back who can give you -1, 2, 2,3, and the occasionaly 25) just for that rare long one, well this isn't gonna get us any closer to upping that 3rd down %. I like the guys points, but I'm with you on the conclusion: it's wrong.