SEC pulling out of BCS - The Orange Mane

Billy Clyde Puckett · 10-27-2005, 07:20 AM

Will the SEC pull out of the BCS if they have an undefeated champion that does not play for the national championship?

Rascal · 10-27-2005, 07:22 AM

I would, but has this even been talked about?

Billy Clyde Puckett · 10-27-2005, 07:35 AM

Tommy Tuberville made some noise about the press having too much influence and it is making the rounds of the talk shows in the south. I'll be in Atlanta next week. As much as I would like to, I can't get there for the Worlds Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, but I can get a feel for the SECs temperature on the subject.

NaptownChief · 10-27-2005, 08:08 AM

Excellent....Hopefully this will bring an end to the disaster that is known as the BCS.

FADERPROOF · 10-27-2005, 01:55 PM

I think they should at least bring it up big time, the SEC is the toughest conference in football and any team that survives through an udnefeated in that conference deserves a shot for the national title.

Elway 4 Life · 10-27-2005, 02:03 PM

The SEC is probably the toughest conference in college but unless Texas or USC loses the SEC will be home watching the championship game.

anthonypacino · 10-27-2005, 02:32 PM

I have a sinking feeling if VT, Texas and USC win out Texas and VT will be playing for the championship, VT and Texas each have a extra game for the conference championship VT will play a ranked team TX will probably face CU who could sneak back inot the top 25 by that time, with Cal dropping games UCLA is the only roadblock for the Trojans, a weak conference and only one top 10 foe all year will hurt them with the computer.

Elway 4 Life · 10-27-2005, 02:40 PM

Texas schedule is very weak from here on out which will hurt them. Bottom line is the BCS system is garbage. Texas and USC are the two best teams in the country hands down. Va. tech is a distant 3rd.

Rascal · 10-27-2005, 02:47 PM

Garcia is going to ban your ass.

anthonypacino · 10-27-2005, 02:54 PM

BCS is garbage, we need a PLAYOFF!

Bronco LB 59 · 10-27-2005, 02:55 PM

The SEC schedule is such a grind and challenge, that even a one or two loss team has a good case for the National Championship on any given year.

I hate how everybody almost universally recognizes the SEC as the "elite conference" in college football but they continuously underrate teams such as 03 LSU, 04 Auburn, 05 Alabama/Georgia for ugly, dogfight Ws.

Elway 4 Life · 10-27-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco LB 52

The SEC schedule is such a grind and challenge, that even a one or two loss team has a good case for the National Championship on any given year.

I hate how everybody almost universally recognizes the SEC as the "elite conference" in college football but they continuously underrate teams such as 03 LSU, 04 Auburn, 05 Alabama/Georgia for ugly, dogfight Ws.

It's not that everyone underates those teams it's just that they usually beat the hell out of eachother all year and then they have the SEC championship. It's hard to stay undefeated. A playoff would eliminate this. In my opinion NONE of those SEC teams givin a chance at a playoff could have beat the trojans the last two years. This year might be a different story.....Texas is the team to beat!!!

Northman · 10-27-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by anthonypacino

BCS is garbage, we need a PLAYOFF!

Yepppppppppp.

anthonypacino · 10-27-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco LB 52

The SEC schedule is such a grind and challenge, that even a one or two loss team has a good case for the National Championship on any given year.

I hate how everybody almost universally recognizes the SEC as the "elite conference" in college football but they continuously underrate teams such as 03 LSU, 04 Auburn, 05 Alabama/Georgia for ugly, dogfight Ws.

True I would also put the Big 10 into that category as well, being a rabid OSU fan I watch the BIg 10 closer than the other conferences, those guys pound each other all year just like the SEC, both have had ups and downs for awhile Flordia and Tennesse seemed to dominate for a long time. At least the SEC has a championship game now the Big 10 only has Ohio St. vs. Michigan. Notre Dame should be forced to join the Big 10 they would have the yearly matchup with Michigan and Michigan St. and be able to keep their out of conference matchups with USC and rotate service academys each year. Then a Big 10 championship game could be a reality

Elway 4 Life · 10-27-2005, 03:24 PM

Well if your going to bring the Big 10 into the mix thaen you cant for get the ACC who has a lot of talent as well.

Bronco LB 59 · 10-27-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by anthonypacino

True I would also put the Big 10 into that category as well, being a rabid OSU fan I watch the BIg 10 closer than the other conferences, those guys pound each other all year just like the SEC, both have had ups and downs for awhile Flordia and Tennesse seemed to dominate for a long time. At least the SEC has a championship game now the Big 10 only has Ohio St. vs. Michigan. Notre Dame should be forced to join the Big 10 they would have the yearly matchup with Michigan and Michigan St. and be able to keep their out of conference matchups with USC and rotate service academys each year. Then a Big 10 championship game could be a reality

I totally agree. Northwestern is typically in the bottom half of the Big Ten and they are pounding teams this season left and right. Purdue, Michigan and Iowa are having down years, but there's nobody in the Big Ten who's still happy about playing them. They are still dangerous. You don't show up to play and they will kick your ass.

Illinois has gone through a bad stretch recently, but they were playing in a BCS bowl after a Big Ten championship just four years back.

Even if they can't get Notre Dame to join, I think the Big Ten should raid the Big East for either Syracuse or West Virginia. Both programs have the history and the reputation to do the Big Ten proud.

anthonypacino · 10-27-2005, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

Well if your going to bring the Big 10 into the mix thaen you cant for get the ACC who has a lot of talent as well.

Some great teams in the ACC this year allowing Miami, VT really bolstered this conference that was dominated for years by Fla St. sure every now and then Virgina, NC State, Maryland etc.. would step up and make things interesting but know with enough BIG teams and a championship game the ACC will not be looked at as a basketball conference for long. The Big 12 and Pac 10 seem to be left in the dust, The Pac 10 for years has seemed to only put one or two decent teams into the polls and face it big twelve fans right now OU and UT is where it starts and ends sure the North still has CU and Nebraska but they are shadows of what they used to be, too much unstability, coaching changes and lack of recruiting has put them where they are now. I would have to say this year the SEC is heads above the rest with the Big 10 second ACC 3rd Pac 10 4th Big 12 5th and the rest taking up the bottom.

FADERPROOF · 10-27-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco LB 52

I totally agree. Northwestern is typically in the bottom half of the Big Ten and they are pounding teams this season left and right. Purdue, Michigan and Iowa are having down years, but there's nobody in the Big Ten who's still happy about playing them. They are still dangerous. You don't show up to play and they will kick your ass.

Illinois has gone through a bad stretch recently, but they were playing in a BCS bowl after a Big Ten championship just four years back.

Even if they can't get Notre Dame to join, I think the Big Ten should raid the Big East for either Syracuse or West Virginia. Both programs have the history and the reputation to do the Big Ten proud.

I wouldn't mind Pitt in the Big 10 as well, they'd have the nice in-state rivalry with PSU.

Elway 4 Life · 10-27-2005, 03:53 PM

I would agree with you. I do however think that the SEC, BIG 10, and ACC can all be in the same sentence while as the rest are one team conferences.

Any predictions on the big game

anthonypacino · 10-27-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

I would agree with you. I do however think that the SEC, BIG 10, and ACC can all be in the same sentence while as the rest are one team conferences.

Any predictions on the big game

The "Cocktail Party"? if so I think Flordia has the slight advantage with Shockley being out. however if the Dawgs D comes up big it could be enough, The Gators have struggled on the O lately, my prediction: Flordia 13 Georgia 10 in OT. but I'm not betting on anything!

The Big E · 10-27-2005, 04:09 PM

The SEC is full of shiat. They are no better than any other conference. They may be more intense about it and have a great atmosphere or whatever, but I don't buy their BS. Auburn has an argument about getting left out last year, but there is no reasonable beef this year. Georgia and Alabama could barely get by Arkansas for god's sake. USC, Texas and Va Tech belong at the top and anyone who doesn't see that is just delusional.

I do, however, agree that the BCS sucks, and it's time for a playoff. The argument that it will extend the season too long, and affect studies,etc., is crap. Other sports do it, even if you added three weeks to the season to do a playoff, there would only be two teams still playing that long.

FADERPROOF · 10-27-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big E

The SEC is full of shiat. They are no better than any other conference. They may be more intense about it and have a great atmosphere or whatever, but I don't buy their BS. Auburn has an argument about getting left out last year, but there is no reasonable beef this year. Georgia and Alabama could barely get by Arkansas for god's sake. USC, Texas and Va Tech belong at the top and anyone who doesn't see that is just delusional.

I do, however, agree that the BCS sucks, and it's time for a playoff. The argument that it will extend the season too long, and affect studies,etc., is crap. Other sports do it, even if you added three weeks to the season to do a playoff, there would only be two teams still playing that long.

SEC is the best conference, if you don't see that then you are the delusional one.

I love when people come in with such strong arguments such as the SEC is no better than any conference yet the best reason is that Alabama and Georiga almost lost a game, real brought everything to the table with that one

Elway 4 Life · 10-27-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big E

The SEC is full of shiat. They are no better than any other conference. They may be more intense about it and have a great atmosphere or whatever, but I don't buy their BS. Auburn has an argument about getting left out last year, but there is no reasonable beef this year. Georgia and Alabama could barely get by Arkansas for god's sake. USC, Texas and Va Tech belong at the top and anyone who doesn't see that is just delusional.

I do, however, agree that the BCS sucks, and it's time for a playoff. The argument that it will extend the season too long, and affect studies,etc., is crap. Other sports do it, even if you added three weeks to the season to do a playoff, there would only be two teams still playing that long.

How often is there more than say 4 teams that could be considered for the championship? You have a 4 team playoff and the winers decide who's the best the losers go home and watch. So simple if only I had the power....

Billy Clyde Puckett · 10-27-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FADERPROOF

I wouldn't mind Pitt in the Big 10 as well, they'd have the nice in-state rivalry with PSU.

I'll buy that. Screw Notre Dame and theri arrogance.

Hate the BCS, but don't want a playoff. Too much money already spoiling the college game. I prefer to go back to the bowls tied to the conferences and let us argue all year who was better.

The Big E · 10-28-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FADERPROOF

SEC is the best conference, if you don't see that then you are the delusional one.

I love when people come in with such strong arguments such as the SEC is no better than any conference yet the best reason is that Alabama and Georiga almost lost a game, real brought everything to the table with that one

The argument about Arkansas has to do with the b****ing that there is some sort of conspiracy against the SEC, a la Tuberville's recent rants. My point is that the teams at the top of the polls deserve to be where they are, and Georgia and Alabama belong where they are. Nobody is getting jobbed. USC put up 70 on Arkansas and pulled their starters in the third quarter.

The thread is about the SEC pulling out of the BCS, and based on where things are right now, I think things are as they should be, and hopefully things will sort themselves out as the season progresses. I hate the BCS and if things continue as they are, Va Tech will be the third team in three years to get hosed out of the championship game.

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10-27-2005, 07:22 AM	#2
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	I would, but has this even been talked about?

10-27-2005, 07:35 AM	#3
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Tommy Tuberville made some noise about the press having too much influence and it is making the rounds of the talk shows in the south. I'll be in Atlanta next week. As much as I would like to, I can't get there for the Worlds Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, but I can get a feel for the SECs temperature on the subject.

10-27-2005, 08:08 AM	#4
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	Excellent....Hopefully this will bring an end to the disaster that is known as the BCS.

10-27-2005, 01:55 PM	#5
FADERPROOF Bucknuts Colossus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Eastlake OH Posts: 17,338	I think they should at least bring it up big time, the SEC is the toughest conference in football and any team that survives through an udnefeated in that conference deserves a shot for the national title.

10-27-2005, 02:03 PM	#6
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	The SEC is probably the toughest conference in college but unless Texas or USC loses the SEC will be home watching the championship game.

10-27-2005, 02:32 PM	#7
anthonypacino off season mode Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,283	I have a sinking feeling if VT, Texas and USC win out Texas and VT will be playing for the championship, VT and Texas each have a extra game for the conference championship VT will play a ranked team TX will probably face CU who could sneak back inot the top 25 by that time, with Cal dropping games UCLA is the only roadblock for the Trojans, a weak conference and only one top 10 foe all year will hurt them with the computer.

10-27-2005, 02:40 PM	#8
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Texas schedule is very weak from here on out which will hurt them. Bottom line is the BCS system is garbage. Texas and USC are the two best teams in the country hands down. Va. tech is a distant 3rd.

10-27-2005, 02:47 PM	#9
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Garcia is going to ban your ass.

10-27-2005, 02:54 PM	#10
anthonypacino off season mode Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,283	BCS is garbage, we need a PLAYOFF!

10-27-2005, 02:55 PM	#11
Bronco LB 59 Ring of Famer Keep your head up dog Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Leucadia CA Posts: 6,068	The SEC schedule is such a grind and challenge, that even a one or two loss team has a good case for the National Championship on any given year. I hate how everybody almost universally recognizes the SEC as the "elite conference" in college football but they continuously underrate teams such as 03 LSU, 04 Auburn, 05 Alabama/Georgia for ugly, dogfight Ws.

10-27-2005, 03:24 PM	#15
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Well if your going to bring the Big 10 into the mix thaen you cant for get the ACC who has a lot of talent as well.

10-27-2005, 03:53 PM	#19
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I would agree with you. I do however think that the SEC, BIG 10, and ACC can all be in the same sentence while as the rest are one team conferences. Any predictions on the big game

10-27-2005, 04:09 PM	#21
The Big E Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach Posts: 1,910	The SEC is full of shiat. They are no better than any other conference. They may be more intense about it and have a great atmosphere or whatever, but I don't buy their BS. Auburn has an argument about getting left out last year, but there is no reasonable beef this year. Georgia and Alabama could barely get by Arkansas for god's sake. USC, Texas and Va Tech belong at the top and anyone who doesn't see that is just delusional. I do, however, agree that the BCS sucks, and it's time for a playoff. The argument that it will extend the season too long, and affect studies,etc., is crap. Other sports do it, even if you added three weeks to the season to do a playoff, there would only be two teams still playing that long.