Elam Trend? Am I the only one that notices this? - The Orange Mane

broncosteven · 10-24-2005, 06:15 PM

Anyone else notice that we lose everytime Elam misses a single FG in a game?

If he misses 2 or more we do tend to win. I don't have hard facts but since around 1996 I have not remembered a close game that we have won when Elam missed ONE FG in a close game.

Maybe someone with time who knows where to look this up can find out if this trend is actually true. I don't know where to start to look up FG stats.

Anyone else notice this?

FADERPROOF · 10-24-2005, 06:40 PM

Elam has never missed a FG though...

TexanBob · 10-24-2005, 08:33 PM

The dude makes two of three field goals of over 40 yards with those swirling winds at Giants Cemetary and some people want to jump all over his ass. Tell you what. Go make a 49-yarder in a heavy crosswind and then come back and tell me how much our kicker sucks, okay?

Pat Bowlen · 10-24-2005, 08:36 PM

I think we've isolated the problem, guys!

Rich Karlis · 10-24-2005, 08:42 PM

The last time Denver played in the Meadowlands Elam missed 2 fgs and we lost to the Jets by 6.

~Crash~ · 10-24-2005, 08:45 PM

yep pat lets empty the back field on every other play in the 3rd and 4th Quater and lets see if we have a winning record. and lets keep plummer in the pocket yep thats the ticket .

Pat Bowlen · 10-24-2005, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 56crash

yep pat lets empty the back field on every other play in the 3rd and 4th Quater and lets see if we have a winning record. and lets keep plummer in the pocket yep thats the ticket .

First the problem, now the answers!

broncosteven · 10-26-2005, 07:20 PM

Can anyone look up the last time we won a game where Jason missed a Single FG attempt in a game? I guess I was not clear enough for you idiots.

I am not knocking him, I just think it is a coincidence that everytime he misses a FG attempt we lose the game. I don't have the time to look this up. I am at a Cisco class all week & would not know where to look anyway. Sure seems to me that the last 7-8 years everytime he Misses ONE FG attempt a in a game we lose that game. If he misses more than one then this theory is NULL & Void.

Rock Chalk · 10-26-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

Can anyone look up the last time we won a game where Jason missed a Single FG attempt in a game? I guess I was not clear enough for you idiots.

I am not knocking him, I just think it is a coincidence that everytime he misses a FG attempt we lose the game. I don't have the time to look this up. I am at a Cisco class all week & would not know where to look anyway. Sure seems to me that the last 7-8 years everytime he Misses ONE FG attempt a in a game we lose that game. If he misses more than one then this theory is NULL & Void.

Hey **** you. You cant just waltz around here calling people idiots, thats my job a-hole.

Rich Karlis · 10-26-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

Can anyone look up the last time we won a game where Jason missed a Single FG attempt in a game? I guess I was not clear enough for you idiots.

I am not knocking him, I just think it is a coincidence that everytime he misses a FG attempt we lose the game. I don't have the time to look this up. I am at a Cisco class all week & would not know where to look anyway. Sure seems to me that the last 7-8 years everytime he Misses ONE FG attempt a in a game we lose that game. If he misses more than one then this theory is NULL & Void.

Elam was 3 of 4 when the Broncos beat KC on Monday night a couple of weeks ago.....

Pat Bowlen · 10-26-2005, 08:55 PM

Thanks for raining on the parade, Rich. I thought we were really onto something.

Rascal · 10-26-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TexanBob

The dude makes two of three field goals of over 40 yards with those swirling winds at Giants Cemetary and some people want to jump all over his ass. Tell you what. Go make a 49-yarder in a heavy crosswind and then come back and tell me how much our kicker sucks, okay?

I do it regularly on Madden. Doesn't seem that hard.

watermock · 10-26-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rascal

I do it regularly on Madden. Doesn't seem that hard.

So does the 5 wide and bullet pass to Bell....

Nuggets4 · 10-27-2005, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Hey **** you. You cant just waltz around here calling people idiots, thats my job a-hole.

And you're damn good at it too Alec.

westcliffe · 10-27-2005, 07:21 AM

I did think it was interesting that Dallas cut Cortes because he has made only 75% of his kicks. Elam has made about 67 or 68% of his, and doesn't kick off. Lucky for him Parcells is not his coach.

Pat Bowlen · 10-27-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuggets4

And you're damn good at it too Alec.

Once upon a time I actually had some self-esteem. Then Alec started replying to my posts.

Ray Finkle · 10-27-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Hey **** you. You cant just waltz around here calling people idiots, thats my job a-hole.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AlecRaenos again.

broncohaven · 10-27-2005, 07:51 AM

Elam missed two against the Chargers in week 2, and missed against the Chiefs in week 3.

If it weren't for the phantom "block in the back" call Elam's final attempt is from 37 instead of 49. He's 102-112 in his career.

Arkie · 10-27-2005, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat Bowlen

Once upon a time I actually had some self-esteem. Then Alec started replying to my posts.

I reading a post yesterday, and they called me bright as a burnt out lightbulb. I was about to get mad, but I looked over and saw that it was just Alec.

sippybrew · 10-27-2005, 08:06 AM

The morons in the broadcast booth siad Elam hit the ball too hard and "compressed" it. Wha?

BMF Bronco · 10-27-2005, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Hey **** you. You cant just waltz around here calling people idiots, thats my job a-hole.

You're fu@king killing me here!!!

missingnumber7 · 10-27-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich Karlis

Elam was 3 of 4 when the Broncos beat KC on Monday night a couple of weeks ago.....

Leave it to a kicker to answer the question

broncosteven · 10-27-2005, 11:22 AM

I wasn't looking for the answer of why he misses them I though it might make a interesting point that when he misses it corrolates to a Bronco loss. Thought it might be interesting to have someone other than me research to see if that is the case.

BTW WHITE SOX, World Series Champs!

Pat Bowlen · 10-27-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

I though it might make a interesting point that when he misses it corrolates to a Bronco loss. Thought it might be interesting to have someone other than me research to see if that is the case.

Maybe you should just stop thinking.

broncosteven · 10-27-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Bowlen

Maybe you should just stop thinking.

Maybe you should start. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

10-24-2005, 06:15 PM	#1
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Elam Trend? Am I the only one that notices this? Anyone else notice that we lose everytime Elam misses a single FG in a game? If he misses 2 or more we do tend to win. I don't have hard facts but since around 1996 I have not remembered a close game that we have won when Elam missed ONE FG in a close game. Maybe someone with time who knows where to look this up can find out if this trend is actually true. I don't know where to start to look up FG stats. Anyone else notice this?

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10-24-2005, 06:40 PM	#2
FADERPROOF Bucknuts Colossus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Eastlake OH Posts: 17,338	Elam has never missed a FG though...

10-24-2005, 08:33 PM	#3
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	The dude makes two of three field goals of over 40 yards with those swirling winds at Giants Cemetary and some people want to jump all over his ass. Tell you what. Go make a 49-yarder in a heavy crosswind and then come back and tell me how much our kicker sucks, okay?

10-24-2005, 08:36 PM	#4
Pat Bowlen President/Chief Executive Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,691	I think we've isolated the problem, guys!

10-24-2005, 08:42 PM	#5
Rich Karlis liquored up kicker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NYC/NNJ Posts: 853	The last time Denver played in the Meadowlands Elam missed 2 fgs and we lost to the Jets by 6.

10-24-2005, 08:45 PM	#6
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	yep pat lets empty the back field on every other play in the 3rd and 4th Quater and lets see if we have a winning record. and lets keep plummer in the pocket yep thats the ticket .

10-26-2005, 07:20 PM	#8
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Can anyone look up the last time we won a game where Jason missed a Single FG attempt in a game? I guess I was not clear enough for you idiots. I am not knocking him, I just think it is a coincidence that everytime he misses a FG attempt we lose the game. I don't have the time to look this up. I am at a Cisco class all week & would not know where to look anyway. Sure seems to me that the last 7-8 years everytime he Misses ONE FG attempt a in a game we lose that game. If he misses more than one then this theory is NULL & Void.

10-26-2005, 08:55 PM	#11
Pat Bowlen President/Chief Executive Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,691	Thanks for raining on the parade, Rich. I thought we were really onto something.

10-27-2005, 07:21 AM	#15
westcliffe Greetings from 8000 feet High in the Sangres Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Westcliffe, Colorado Posts: 261	I did think it was interesting that Dallas cut Cortes because he has made only 75% of his kicks. Elam has made about 67 or 68% of his, and doesn't kick off. Lucky for him Parcells is not his coach.

10-27-2005, 07:51 AM	#18
broncohaven Ring of Famer I'm Orange Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 2,250	Elam missed two against the Chargers in week 2, and missed against the Chiefs in week 3. If it weren't for the phantom "block in the back" call Elam's final attempt is from 37 instead of 49. He's 102-112 in his career.

10-27-2005, 08:06 AM	#20
sippybrew Just Drafted Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 45	The morons in the broadcast booth siad Elam hit the ball too hard and "compressed" it. Wha?

10-27-2005, 11:22 AM	#23
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I wasn't looking for the answer of why he misses them I though it might make a interesting point that when he misses it corrolates to a Bronco loss. Thought it might be interesting to have someone other than me research to see if that is the case. BTW WHITE SOX, World Series Champs!