The offense has not converted more than one third down in the fourth Q of any game... - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:18 AM

Wow. That's an incredible stat.

Thanks to Mediator for the leg work on finding this one.

Wow.

Update: the stat is wrong. We've actually converted 5 of 26.

Popps · 10-24-2005, 11:22 AM

However, they have taken double-digit leads into the fourth quarter of the PAST FIVE games.

Keep using "legwork" to find those helpful stats, though.

ludo21 · 10-24-2005, 11:23 AM

Popps has a point that double digit lead should be enough.

But only 1 third down conversion is NOT enough!!

DB-Freak · 10-24-2005, 11:25 AM

Both side of the ball stall when they are in the fourth quarter.

But the defense just collasping in the fourth is baffling.

Lidderer · 10-24-2005, 11:25 AM

they had 2 vs SD.

NICE LEG WORK! Nick Ferguson-esque

Broncoman13 · 10-24-2005, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

However, they have taken double-digit leads into the fourth quarter of the PAST FIVE games.

Keep using "legwork" to find those helpful stats, though.

So you think it's okay to sit back once you get a lead and keep the defense on the field for an entire half... good luck finding somebody to support that arguement!!! I don't care how good the D is... if you force them to stay on the field the entire 2nd half they are eventually going to break. They've held off for three weeks in giving up a game... we've been testing them and they finally failed. Time to quit giving them the same test every week!

Mile High Shack · 10-24-2005, 11:27 AM

only converting 1 3rd down is very concerning..........

there are many aspects to this team that lead me to believe we are a smoke and mirrors team right now

DB-Freak · 10-24-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lidderer

they had 2 vs SD.

NICE LEG WORK! Nick Ferguson-esque

Definitely something to brag about aint it?

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-24-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

However, they have taken double-digit leads into the fourth quarter of the PAST FIVE games.

Keep using "legwork" to find those helpful stats, though.

If the officiating had only been "poor" there would be none of these discussions today.

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:31 AM

I'll add that we've forced five fourth quarter turnovers this season.

Lidderer · 10-24-2005, 11:32 AM

what's also "wow"-worthy(not sure about 2 wows though):

The D has pretty much the same success rate. They only stopped Miami* on 3rd down twice in the 4th quarter and SD too.

There's basically no difference.

Aw what the hell: wow, again.

*=this probably says something about how offenses work when they have a lead, no?

Lidderer · 10-24-2005, 11:33 AM

I'll add that we haven't turned the ball over in 5 games on O. Also, isn't it strange how our only O-turnovers came from when we were behind?

Hmm, so maybe O really does help D.

wowwow.

Mile High Shack · 10-24-2005, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

what's also "wow"-worthy(not sure about 2 wows though):

The D has pretty much the same success rate. They only stopped Miami* on 3rd down twice in the 4th quarter and SD too.

There's basically no difference.

Aw what the hell: wow, again.

*=this probably says something about how offenses work when they have a lead, no?

that's another good point

I'd like to know the defenses 3rd down % against it too, I'm sure it's just as bad

we have problems on both sides of the ball in the 4th qtr and it is going to cause our season to go down the toilet again

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:35 AM

I should have checked this before I posted it... I count three third down conversions against San Diego.

DB-Freak · 10-24-2005, 11:36 AM

And we won baby.

Lidderer · 10-24-2005, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I should have checked this before I posted it... I count three third down conversions against San Diego.

there were 2, the third you're thinking of might be the dayne run on 4th down

ludo21 · 10-24-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I'll add that we've forced five fourth quarter turnovers this season.

Hopefully that trend continues, because the O needs help.

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

there were 2, the third you're thinking of might be the dayne run on 4th down

Oh, you're right... Dayne didn't get that third. It was converted on the fourth down.

DB-Freak · 10-24-2005, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

what's also "wow"-worthy(not sure about 2 wows though):

The D has pretty much the same success rate. They only stopped Miami* on 3rd down twice in the 4th quarter and SD too.

There's basically no difference.

Aw what the hell: wow, again.

*=this probably says something about how offenses work when they have a lead, no?

If you wanna talk about defense, I think you should count the scores they allowed in those particular quarters rather than conversions.

BigPlayShay · 10-24-2005, 11:40 AM

0-3 @ Miami
2-4 vs San Diego
1-3 vs Kansas City
1-5 @ Jacksonville (converted one by penalty)
1-4 vs Washington (one not converted was a kneel down)
1-4 vs New England (one not converted was a kneel down)
0-3 @ New York Giants

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:41 AM

But still, it's wrong. We converted a 3rd an 1 against Washington

3-1-DEN40

(10:54) T.Bell left end to DEN 42 for 2 yards (M.Washington; R.Clark).

Lidderer · 10-24-2005, 11:41 AM

turns out the 5 D turnovers stat is wrong too.

It's only 4.

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigPlayShay

0-3 @ Miami
2-4 vs San Diego
1-3 vs Kansas City
1-5 @ Jacksonville (converted one by penalty)
1-4 vs Washington (one not converted was a kneel down)
1-4 vs New England (one not converted was a kneel down)
0-3 @ New York Giants

I don't count penalties as a conversion. They're good for us, but we're not getting them based on execution.

Lidderer · 10-24-2005, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DB-Freak

If you wanna talk about defense, I think you should count the scores they allowed in those particular quarters rather than conversions.

No I totally agree. I'm sorta knocking the D in what I'm saying.

Taco John · 10-24-2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lidderer

turns out the 5 D turnovers stat is wrong too.

It's only 4.

I counted twice... It's five. Four interceptions... Two by Bailey. One by D. Will. One by Foxworth... And a forced fumble by Al Wilson.

10-24-2005, 11:18 AM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,707 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	The offense has not converted more than one third down in the fourth Q of any game... Wow. That's an incredible stat. Thanks to Mediator for the leg work on finding this one. Wow. Update: the stat is wrong. We've actually converted 5 of 26.

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10-24-2005, 11:22 AM	#2
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,786	However, they have taken double-digit leads into the fourth quarter of the PAST FIVE games. Keep using "legwork" to find those helpful stats, though.

10-24-2005, 11:23 AM	#3
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,913 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Popps has a point that double digit lead should be enough. But only 1 third down conversion is NOT enough!!

10-24-2005, 11:25 AM	#4
DB-Freak The lone sack artist Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,995	Both side of the ball stall when they are in the fourth quarter. But the defense just collasping in the fourth is baffling.

10-24-2005, 11:25 AM	#5
Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	they had 2 vs SD. NICE LEG WORK! Nick Ferguson-esque

10-24-2005, 11:27 AM	#7
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	only converting 1 3rd down is very concerning.......... there are many aspects to this team that lead me to believe we are a smoke and mirrors team right now

10-24-2005, 11:31 AM	#10
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,707 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I'll add that we've forced five fourth quarter turnovers this season.

10-24-2005, 11:32 AM	#11
Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	what's also "wow"-worthy(not sure about 2 wows though): The D has pretty much the same success rate. They only stopped Miami* on 3rd down twice in the 4th quarter and SD too. There's basically no difference. Aw what the hell: wow, again. *=this probably says something about how offenses work when they have a lead, no?

10-24-2005, 11:33 AM	#12
Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	I'll add that we haven't turned the ball over in 5 games on O. Also, isn't it strange how our only O-turnovers came from when we were behind? Hmm, so maybe O really does help D. wowwow.

10-24-2005, 11:35 AM	#14
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,707 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I should have checked this before I posted it... I count three third down conversions against San Diego.

10-24-2005, 11:36 AM	#15
DB-Freak The lone sack artist Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,995	And we won baby.

10-24-2005, 11:40 AM	#20
BigPlayShay Ring of Famer Novaking Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,238 Adopt-a-Bronco: Got Cut	0-3 @ Miami 2-4 vs San Diego 1-3 vs Kansas City 1-5 @ Jacksonville (converted one by penalty) 1-4 vs Washington (one not converted was a kneel down) 1-4 vs New England (one not converted was a kneel down) 0-3 @ New York Giants

10-24-2005, 11:41 AM	#22
Lidderer & Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,780	turns out the 5 D turnovers stat is wrong too. It's only 4.