Broncs the worst on 3rd. But what about 1st and 4th? - The Orange Mane

Blart · 10-12-2005, 06:32 PM

Total 1st downs
1. Seattle
2. St. Louis
3. Dallas
4. Cincinnati
5. Phili
6. SD
7. Indy
8. Atlanta
9. Denver

This statistic is holding the Broncos back, because they pick up so many 1st downs without waiting for a 3rd down. Denver should train Bell to run out of bounds on 2nd so we get a chance to improve the most important stat in the NFL.

As you know only good teams, the kind that could dominate the NFC North, can be in the top 10 for 3rd down percentage.
Teams like,
Carolina (4th best)
San Diego (1st)
New Orleans (10th best)
Green Bay (7th best)

Perhaps 3rd down is cursed. Broncos don't have an issue on any other down.

Fourth Downs Completed / Attempted
St. Louis 7/7
Kansas City 6/6
Denver 6/8
Baltimore 4/5
Washington 4/4
Tennessee 3/5
Dallas 3/8
Indy 1/2
New England 1/2
Miami 1/4
Philly 0/2

ludo21 · 10-12-2005, 06:34 PM

Already been debated to death.

Garcia Bronco · 10-12-2005, 06:39 PM

Top ten rushing offense through now week 5

2005 Regular Season NFL · AFC · NFC Team Sortables - OffensePassingRushingReceivingScoringPuntingKickof fsReturnsField GoalsTotal OffenseTurnovers

Rushing Offense - Rushing Yards/Game
Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TDs FDs 20+
Atlanta 5 171 34.2 952 5.6 190.4 6 46 12
Denver 5 155 31.0 742 4.8 148.4 5 37 7
San Diego 5 144 28.8 699 4.9 139.8 9 39 4
Kansas City 4 119 29.8 541 4.5 135.2 6 32 6
Seattle 5 143 28.6 676 4.7 135.2 8 42 4
Washington 4 130 32.5 534 4.1 133.5 0 24 3
Pittsburgh 4 128 32.0 524 4.1 131.0 5 28 2
Tampa Bay 5 160 32.0 651 4.1 130.2 3 30 6
Chicago 4 117 29.2 510 4.4 127.5 4 28 3
Cincinnati 5 156 31.2 628 4.0 125.6 2 30 2
Houston 4 99 24.8 495 5.0 123.8 1 22 2

Garcia Bronco · 10-12-2005, 06:41 PM

top 5 in TO margin

Turnovers Offense - Turnover Margin
Takeaways Giveaways Net
Team G Tot Int Fum Tot Int Fum Diff
Cincinnati 5 18 12 6 5 2 3 13
New York (N) 4 13 8 5 4 2 2 9
Pittsburgh 4 10 4 6 2 0 2 8
Buffalo 5 12 7 5 5 2 3 7
Denver 5 11 4 7 5 3 2 6

Garcia Bronco · 10-12-2005, 06:42 PM

Top 5 in punt average

Punting Offense - Punts
Team G Pnts Blk TB OOB DN In 20 FC Ret RetTD NAvg GAvg
Minnesota 4 17 0 2 0 1 5 3 11 0 42.6 48.8
Tampa Bay 5 26 0 4 0 3 4 1 18 0 38.8 47.7
Buffalo 5 26 0 4 2 2 7 3 15 0 38.8 46.8
Denver 5 22 0 2 1 4 7 3 12 0 37.7 46.8
Oakland 4 22 1 2 1 4 6 4 11 0 39.8 45.9

Garcia Bronco · 10-12-2005, 06:46 PM

We're number 6 in defensive plays played(314)...lowest..Washington at (230)...TB is the lowest at 5 games played (254)

Garcia Bronco · 10-12-2005, 06:50 PM

56 penalties have been committed against the Denver defense(most in the league) and second most in yards penalized to the offense(415) yards...1st is Carolina (439)

Atlas · 10-12-2005, 08:05 PM

Good work Garcia. I said this earlier. If your getting the first downs on first or second down then 3rd down conversion means very little.

Garcia Bronco · 10-12-2005, 08:13 PM

So does red zone attempts if you score from outside the 20

DarkHorse30 · 10-12-2005, 11:03 PM

Oops, red zone scoring has risen every game.....50% against KC and Jax, 100% against Redskins.

So.....what's next? BTW, the NFLites(footballmedia) are REALLY zoned in on that 3rd down thing....I think that'll go all year.

10-12-2005, 06:32 PM	#1
Blart I'm gay for the Broncos! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: All @ same time	Broncs the worst on 3rd. But what about 1st and 4th? Total 1st downs 1. Seattle 2. St. Louis 3. Dallas 4. Cincinnati 5. Phili 6. SD 7. Indy 8. Atlanta 9. Denver This statistic is holding the Broncos back, because they pick up so many 1st downs without waiting for a 3rd down. Denver should train Bell to run out of bounds on 2nd so we get a chance to improve the most important stat in the NFL. As you know only good teams, the kind that could dominate the NFC North, can be in the top 10 for 3rd down percentage. Teams like, Carolina (4th best) San Diego (1st) New Orleans (10th best) Green Bay (7th best) Perhaps 3rd down is cursed. Broncos don't have an issue on any other down. Fourth Downs Completed / Attempted St. Louis 7/7 Kansas City 6/6 Denver 6/8 Baltimore 4/5 Washington 4/4 Tennessee 3/5 Dallas 3/8 Indy 1/2 New England 1/2 Miami 1/4 Philly 0/2

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10-12-2005, 06:34 PM	#2
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Already been debated to death.

10-12-2005, 06:39 PM	#3
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Top ten rushing offense through now week 5 2005 Regular Season NFL · AFC · NFC Team Sortables - OffensePassingRushingReceivingScoringPuntingKickof fsReturnsField GoalsTotal OffenseTurnovers Rushing Offense - Rushing Yards/Game Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TDs FDs 20+ Atlanta 5 171 34.2 952 5.6 190.4 6 46 12 Denver 5 155 31.0 742 4.8 148.4 5 37 7 San Diego 5 144 28.8 699 4.9 139.8 9 39 4 Kansas City 4 119 29.8 541 4.5 135.2 6 32 6 Seattle 5 143 28.6 676 4.7 135.2 8 42 4 Washington 4 130 32.5 534 4.1 133.5 0 24 3 Pittsburgh 4 128 32.0 524 4.1 131.0 5 28 2 Tampa Bay 5 160 32.0 651 4.1 130.2 3 30 6 Chicago 4 117 29.2 510 4.4 127.5 4 28 3 Cincinnati 5 156 31.2 628 4.0 125.6 2 30 2 Houston 4 99 24.8 495 5.0 123.8 1 22 2

10-12-2005, 06:41 PM	#4
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	top 5 in TO margin Turnovers Offense - Turnover Margin Takeaways Giveaways Net Team G Tot Int Fum Tot Int Fum Diff Cincinnati 5 18 12 6 5 2 3 13 New York (N) 4 13 8 5 4 2 2 9 Pittsburgh 4 10 4 6 2 0 2 8 Buffalo 5 12 7 5 5 2 3 7 Denver 5 11 4 7 5 3 2 6

10-12-2005, 06:42 PM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Top 5 in punt average Punting Offense - Punts Team G Pnts Blk TB OOB DN In 20 FC Ret RetTD NAvg GAvg Minnesota 4 17 0 2 0 1 5 3 11 0 42.6 48.8 Tampa Bay 5 26 0 4 0 3 4 1 18 0 38.8 47.7 Buffalo 5 26 0 4 2 2 7 3 15 0 38.8 46.8 Denver 5 22 0 2 1 4 7 3 12 0 37.7 46.8 Oakland 4 22 1 2 1 4 6 4 11 0 39.8 45.9

10-12-2005, 06:46 PM	#6
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	We're number 6 in defensive plays played(314)...lowest..Washington at (230)...TB is the lowest at 5 games played (254)

10-12-2005, 06:50 PM	#7
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	56 penalties have been committed against the Denver defense(most in the league) and second most in yards penalized to the offense(415) yards...1st is Carolina (439)

10-12-2005, 08:05 PM	#8
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	Good work Garcia. I said this earlier. If your getting the first downs on first or second down then 3rd down conversion means very little.

10-12-2005, 08:13 PM	#9
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	So does red zone attempts if you score from outside the 20

10-12-2005, 11:03 PM	#10
DarkHorse30 Smith Rules Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,091 Adopt-a-Bronco: wolf pot roast	Oops, red zone scoring has risen every game.....50% against KC and Jax, 100% against Redskins. So.....what's next? BTW, the NFLites(footballmedia) are REALLY zoned in on that 3rd down thing....I think that'll go all year.