Denver's first round pick in '09 - The Orange Mane

JCMElway · 08-01-2008, 12:04 AM

Well, Lynch's departure highlights the need at the Safety position. With the wealth of good Safeties next year, there's a very good chance the Broncs go that way. If the Broncos have a poor year, at least we'll have a shot at getting the first guy on the list.

Any thoughts about these guys?

# 1 Taylor Mays*, SS/FS, USC
Height: 6-4. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2009): Top 15 Pick.
5/19/09: Taylor Mays' size and speed combination is sick, and what could ultimately allow him to be the first safety taken in April 2009. Mays plays free safety at USC, but I see him as more of a strong safety at the next level.

2007: A 6-4, 225-pound safety who runs a 4.3? Pretty sick. As a freshman, Taylor Mays started 12 games, recorded 62 tackles and picked off three passes.

#2 Myron Rolle*, SS, Florida State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 218.
Projected 40 Time: 4.46.
Projected Round (2009): Top 20 Pick.
5/19/09: Myron Rolle's triangle numbers pale in comparison to Taylor Mays', but a 4.4 from a 6-2, 218-pound safety ain't too shabby. Rolle has 23 consecutive starts entering the 2008 campaign.

2007: A player with no weaknesses in his game, Myron Rolle started the final 10 games of his freshman year, finishing third on the team with 77 tackles.

#3 William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri
Height: 6-1. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2009): Top 20 Pick.
5/19/09: Looks to be a good fit at either safety position at the next level. William Moore had an incredible 2007 campaign, notching seven picks and qualifying as a second-team All-American.

2007: An interception machine and the leader of Missouri's defense. Voted as a Second-Team All-American.

#4 Kam Chancellor*, SS, Virginia Tech
Height: 6-4. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
Projected Round (2009): 1-2.
2007: An extremely athletic safety - seems like this draft class is laden with guys like that.

bpc · 08-01-2008, 12:17 AM

Man, it's just going to be so tough to invest more into this secondary when we could possibly have questions at HB, WR, OL, DT, and MLB.

I think Mays is very good, haven't watched the other guys too much but it's just going to be tough to pull that trigger.

NFLBRONCO · 08-01-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bpc

Man, it's just going to be so tough to invest more into this secondary when we could possibly have questions at HB, WR, OL, DT, and MLB.

I think Mays is very good, haven't watched the other guys too much but it's just going to be tough to pull that trigger.

I have S as a high priority in 09 but, it depends where we pick and who's available. Your right we have lots of needs so we could easily go several directions.

JCMElway · 08-01-2008, 01:27 AM

All that being said, if Trevor Mays is on the board, take him. Period. (Unless we're in the top 5 draft picks, but that's not very likely.)

lex · 08-01-2008, 09:00 AM

I wouldnt be upset with Mays, however Id rather go in a different direction in the first round. I think there are other very solid options for safety that will be available later and also, I would like Maualuga or Duke Robinson. Id like to focus closer to the LOS. Also, I realize Mays has a great measurables but safety is a position that is also reliant on read and react and since Mays plays for USC, a who's who of NFL talent, its hard to say if there might be a better option who can compensate for being a little slower than Mays but one who has better read & react. But I think theres a lot of value at safety in round 2. I would also not be averse to getting Beanie Wells but I think he will be out of our reach.

socalorado · 08-01-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lex

I wouldnt be upset with Mays, however Id rather go in a different direction in the first round. I think there are other very solid options for safety that will be available later and also, I would like Maualuga or Duke Robinson. Id like to focus closer to the LOS. Also, I realize Mays has a great measurables but safety is a position that is also reliant on read and react and since Mays plays for USC, a who's who of NFL talent, its hard to say if there might be a better option who can compensate for being a little slower than Mays but one who has better read & react. But I think theres a lot of value at safety in round 2. I would also not be averse to getting Beanie Wells but I think he will be out of our reach.

Heres my take on DEN as of today.
Barrett is looking more and more like a really solid pick that was overlooked.
All camp reports point to him being a solid playmaker at SS. I see him taking over for the "Whiffer" in no time flat.
But DEN has a HUGE need at FS. They desperatley need a fleet footed, patroller for the FS position.
This draft will be deep at Safety, and DEN has needs elsewhere.
Round 1 Rey Maualuga MLB
Round 2 Derek Pegues FS

Derek Pegues, FS, Mississippi State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 196.
Projected 40 Time: 4.43.
Projected Round (2009): 2.
5/19/09: Doubling as a return man, Derek Pegues managed 50 tackles and five interceptions in 2007.

2007: Derek Pegues is a lightning-quick jack of all trades; he can play cornerback, free safety and kick returner. He started every game as a sophomore and picked off four passes. (SoFoxy and Paymah want to leave?!?! No prob, Jack mother****ing Williams and Pregues are more than able to take the vacant spots if needed in a pinch.)

Get a guy who's a true FS. A ball hawk, with INT skills, who can play in tandem with the big hitter that is BARRETT.
OR, go after Chung. Lots of versatility, but hes also alot more of a SS type.

Round 3 Max Unger, OT,C Oregon
Height: 6-5. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
5/24/08: An extremely athletic and smart center who can also play offensive tackle. Max Unger's not as strong as some GMs would like, but he'll be an effective pass protector in a zone scheme.
2007: Possibly a candidate for a team with a zone-blocking scheme.
OR
Round 3 Xavier Fulton, OT Illinois
Height: 6-6. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
5/24/08: For a guy coming off a season-ending knee injury, Xavier Fulton played pretty well in 2007. A former defensive lineman, Fulton's athleticism will make him a good fit in a zone-blocking scheme.

lex · 08-01-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Heres my take on DEN as of today.
Barrett is looking more and more like a really solid pick that was overlooked.
All camp reports point to him being a solid playmaker at SS. I see him taking over for the "Whiffer" in no time flat.
But DEN has a HUGE need at FS. They desperatley need a fleet footed, patroller for the FS position.
This draft will be deep at Safety, and DEN has needs elsewhere.
Round 1 Rey Maualuga MLB
Round 2 Derek Pegues FS

Derek Pegues, FS, Mississippi State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 196.
Projected 40 Time: 4.43.
Projected Round (2009): 2.
5/19/09: Doubling as a return man, Derek Pegues managed 50 tackles and five interceptions in 2007.

2007: Derek Pegues is a lightning-quick jack of all trades; he can play cornerback, free safety and kick returner. He started every game as a sophomore and picked off four passes.

Get a guy who's a true FS. A ball hawk, with INT skills, who can play in tandem with the big hitter that is BARRETT.
OR, go after Chung. Lots of versatility, but hes also alot more of a SS type.

Round 3 Max Unger, OT,C Oregon
Height: 6-5. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
5/24/08: An extremely athletic and smart center who can also play offensive tackle. Max Unger's not as strong as some GMs would like, but he'll be an effective pass protector in a zone scheme.
2007: Possibly a candidate for a team with a zone-blocking scheme.
OR
Round 3 Xavier Fulton, OT Illinois
Height: 6-6. Weight: 298.
Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
5/24/08: For a guy coming off a season-ending knee injury, Xavier Fulton played pretty well in 2007. A former defensive lineman, Fulton's athleticism will make him a good fit in a zone-blocking scheme.

I agree. I think we'll have to be drafting int he top 12 again though to have a shot at Maualuga...maybe higher, depending on who else is drafting high and whether they need an MLB and whether they like Laurinaitis more. I think if we have a shot at Maualuga, we should draft him. Same with Beanie Wells, although he is even less likely to be available. I think Duke Robinson is more likely to be available at where we will be picking. Offensive and defensive line is so hugely important that its easily justifiable. Obviously a lot of the season needs to play out but I wouldnt rule out feeling good about Larsen and/or Barrett going into next year. One unavoidable need on the horizon though is OLine.

Broncoman13 · 08-02-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

Man, it's just going to be so tough to invest more into this secondary when we could possibly have questions at HB, WR, OL, DT, and MLB.

I think Mays is very good, haven't watched the other guys too much but it's just going to be tough to pull that trigger.

HB isn't a problem bro. Aldridge and Torain are very good pick-ups this year and Selvin and Andre Hall have both looked good. We have 4 good system RBs at this point.

MLB, OL, DT still are problems. I think WR is okay as well. Royal is a hit and Marshall and DJack look to round out a fairly good receiving corps. We do need to lock DJack up for the next 4 years though.

Doggcow · 08-02-2008, 12:43 PM

I say we draft Max Unger because his name is Max Unger.

peacepipe · 08-02-2008, 02:31 PM

I think we'll go RB or LB in the 1st.

Elway777 · 08-02-2008, 07:24 PM

My pre season mock drafti f the Broncos make playoffs 1 William Moore 2 Max Unger 3 Danny Beckworth 4 B.j Raja 5 Branion Marion. The Broncos target Lee Evans in free agency .

theAPAOps5 · 08-02-2008, 11:03 PM

Kaylor, Sports Guru, and I were talking with some of the local media at camp today and we all pretty much agreed that MLB should and could be the position we spend our first pick on.

Webster is not the answer and it appears Niko isn't either. Although listening to Seahawks fans I was really excited. He just hasn't risen to the top in camp. Its a key position that must be addressed.

oubronco · 08-03-2008, 01:40 PM

MLB or D-Lineman

NFLBRONCO · 08-03-2008, 03:34 PM

MLB OL DT S would be my #1 choices.

SpringStein · 08-03-2008, 05:24 PM

MLB isn't a "premium" position - top ones don't usually go until mid-late teens. Was Ray Lewis something like 17? So if we pick from 17-22 area, that could be a nice fit. The same for safety. Those would be my two top choices at this point.

NFLBRONCO · 08-03-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringStein

MLB isn't a "premium" position - top ones don't usually go until mid-late teens. Was Ray Lewis something like 17? So if we pick from 17-22 area, that could be a nice fit. The same for safety. Those would be my two top choices at this point.

I'd love Oher most

elsid13 · 08-04-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

I'd love Oher most

So do I, but I think he might be the first OT off the board.

Doggcow · 08-04-2008, 08:03 PM

I wouldnt mind Maualuga. He's a beast at SC

ReillyB · 08-06-2008, 10:45 AM

We need a MLB. If Laurinitis' stock would drop a little bit to wherever we pick I would getting him.

Elway777 · 08-07-2008, 02:41 AM

I like to go for Moore or Mays in the first then get Brinkley or Unger in the second .Then 3 round look at Running back or Defensive tackle The Broncos then go for Lee Evans and maybe Middle linebacker in free agency. The Broncos should have a ton of money next year for for agents.

NFLBRONCO · 08-07-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway777

I like to go for Moore or Mays in the first then get Brinkley or Unger in the second .Then 3 round look at Running back or Defensive tackle The Broncos then go for Lee Evans and maybe Middle linebacker in free agency. The Broncos should have a ton of money next year for for agents.

Who would you pick in 09 if we drafted

6-10-

11-15-

16-20-

Elway777 · 08-07-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

Who would you pick in 09 if we drafted

6-10-

11-15-

16-20-

6-10-Wells.Maualaga,Laurititus, Mays
11-15- Lauriitius,Mays .Moore
16-20 Mays,Moore . Spikes

NFLBRONCO · 08-07-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway777

6-10-Wells.Maualaga,Laurititus, Mays
11-15- Lauriitius,Mays .Moore
16-20 Mays,Moore . Spikes

Thanks nice job

BroncoMan4ever · 08-08-2008, 02:48 AM

i believe that if Niko doesn't pan out they go MLB in the 1st, but if he does, i expect Shannahan to take a RB in the 1st. Young is good but can;t take the pounding and as much as Shannahan says he is fine with the RBBC crap, he is full of ****. ever since TD he has wanted a feature back and a change of pace guy for 5-10 carries a game.

lex · 08-08-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Elway777

6-10-Wells.Maualaga,Laurititus, Mays
11-15- Lauriitius,Mays .Moore
16-20 Mays,Moore . Spikes

You dont think there is sufficient value for S in the second round to wait on taking a S?

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08-01-2008, 12:04 AM	#1
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Denver's first round pick in '09 Well, Lynch's departure highlights the need at the Safety position. With the wealth of good Safeties next year, there's a very good chance the Broncs go that way. If the Broncos have a poor year, at least we'll have a shot at getting the first guy on the list. Any thoughts about these guys? # 1 Taylor Mays, SS/FS, USC Height: 6-4. Weight: 225. Projected 40 Time: 4.45. Projected Round (2009): Top 15 Pick. 5/19/09: Taylor Mays' size and speed combination is sick, and what could ultimately allow him to be the first safety taken in April 2009. Mays plays free safety at USC, but I see him as more of a strong safety at the next level. 2007: A 6-4, 225-pound safety who runs a 4.3? Pretty sick. As a freshman, Taylor Mays started 12 games, recorded 62 tackles and picked off three passes. #2 Myron Rolle, SS, Florida State Height: 6-2. Weight: 218. Projected 40 Time: 4.46. Projected Round (2009): Top 20 Pick. 5/19/09: Myron Rolle's triangle numbers pale in comparison to Taylor Mays', but a 4.4 from a 6-2, 218-pound safety ain't too shabby. Rolle has 23 consecutive starts entering the 2008 campaign. 2007: A player with no weaknesses in his game, Myron Rolle started the final 10 games of his freshman year, finishing third on the team with 77 tackles. #3 William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri Height: 6-1. Weight: 220. Projected 40 Time: 4.45. Projected Round (2009): Top 20 Pick. 5/19/09: Looks to be a good fit at either safety position at the next level. William Moore had an incredible 2007 campaign, notching seven picks and qualifying as a second-team All-American. 2007: An interception machine and the leader of Missouri's defense. Voted as a Second-Team All-American. #4 Kam Chancellor*, SS, Virginia Tech Height: 6-4. Weight: 225. Projected 40 Time: 4.50. Projected Round (2009): 1-2. 2007: An extremely athletic safety - seems like this draft class is laden with guys like that.

08-01-2008, 12:17 AM	#2
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,574 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Man, it's just going to be so tough to invest more into this secondary when we could possibly have questions at HB, WR, OL, DT, and MLB. I think Mays is very good, haven't watched the other guys too much but it's just going to be tough to pull that trigger.

08-01-2008, 01:27 AM	#4
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	All that being said, if Trevor Mays is on the board, take him. Period. (Unless we're in the top 5 draft picks, but that's not very likely.)

08-01-2008, 09:00 AM	#5
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I wouldnt be upset with Mays, however Id rather go in a different direction in the first round. I think there are other very solid options for safety that will be available later and also, I would like Maualuga or Duke Robinson. Id like to focus closer to the LOS. Also, I realize Mays has a great measurables but safety is a position that is also reliant on read and react and since Mays plays for USC, a who's who of NFL talent, its hard to say if there might be a better option who can compensate for being a little slower than Mays but one who has better read & react. But I think theres a lot of value at safety in round 2. I would also not be averse to getting Beanie Wells but I think he will be out of our reach.

08-02-2008, 12:43 PM	#9
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,304 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I say we draft Max Unger because his name is Max Unger.

08-02-2008, 02:31 PM	#10
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,767 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I think we'll go RB or LB in the 1st.

08-02-2008, 07:24 PM	#11
Elway777 Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,886	My pre season mock drafti f the Broncos make playoffs 1 William Moore 2 Max Unger 3 Danny Beckworth 4 B.j Raja 5 Branion Marion. The Broncos target Lee Evans in free agency .

08-02-2008, 11:03 PM	#12
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Kaylor, Sports Guru, and I were talking with some of the local media at camp today and we all pretty much agreed that MLB should and could be the position we spend our first pick on. Webster is not the answer and it appears Niko isn't either. Although listening to Seahawks fans I was really excited. He just hasn't risen to the top in camp. Its a key position that must be addressed.

08-03-2008, 01:40 PM	#13
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,604	MLB or D-Lineman

08-03-2008, 03:34 PM	#14
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,394	MLB OL DT S would be my #1 choices.

08-03-2008, 05:24 PM	#15
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	MLB isn't a "premium" position - top ones don't usually go until mid-late teens. Was Ray Lewis something like 17? So if we pick from 17-22 area, that could be a nice fit. The same for safety. Those would be my two top choices at this point.

08-04-2008, 08:03 PM	#18
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,304 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I wouldnt mind Maualuga. He's a beast at SC

08-06-2008, 10:45 AM	#19
ReillyB RIP #27 & #29 New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 22 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tyler Polumbus	We need a MLB. If Laurinitis' stock would drop a little bit to wherever we pick I would getting him.

08-07-2008, 02:41 AM	#20
Elway777 Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,886	I like to go for Moore or Mays in the first then get Brinkley or Unger in the second .Then 3 round look at Running back or Defensive tackle The Broncos then go for Lee Evans and maybe Middle linebacker in free agency. The Broncos should have a ton of money next year for for agents.

08-08-2008, 02:48 AM	#24
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,575 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	i believe that if Niko doesn't pan out they go MLB in the 1st, but if he does, i expect Shannahan to take a RB in the 1st. Young is good but can;t take the pounding and as much as Shannahan says he is fine with the RBBC crap, he is full of ****. ever since TD he has wanted a feature back and a change of pace guy for 5-10 carries a game.