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Old 09-24-2005, 10:42 AM   #1
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Default Matchup I would like to see

I would love to see Walls put on Tony G. With his size I think he could be very solid against Tony. This would leave Champ on Kennison and Dwill on Parker, and I like all three matchups.
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Did the Broncos not have Walls last season opener? I know he was hurt for the 2nd game.

Anyway I don't know what it is, but it seems you guys have a good system for holding Gonzalez to a minimal amount of catches and yards in recent history. I know Bailey didn't cover him exclusively in the 1st game and even less in the 2nd game so I'm guessing Coyer mixes it up quite a bit.

Don't know if Champ covering Gonzo one-on-one is a good idea with that shoulder.
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Did the Broncos not have Walls last season opener? I know he was hurt for the 2nd game.

Anyway I don't know what it is, but it seems you guys have a good system for holding Gonzalez to a minimal amount of catches and yards in recent history. I know Bailey didn't cover him exclusively in the 1st game and even less in the 2nd game so I'm guessing Coyer mixes it up quite a bit.

Don't know if Champ covering Gonzo one-on-one is a good idea with that shoulder.
Yeah, walls was out in the opener, Watts juked him into an injury during training camp. I agree that having Champ on Gonzo might be a risk. Walls would match up size wise maybe, but I don't know if he is physical enough.
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In my opinion, that would be the worse match up we could possibly see. Walls usually covers the No#2 receiver and he isn't very good at that. Gonzo is the Chiefs No#1 threat basically. So you're asking Walls to cover the Chiefs No#1 receiver.

Walls size is over-rated. His cover skills are average and his bump and run skills are below average. It's hard to use that size when you are playing 5 to 10 yards off your receiver. How many times do you actually see Walls use his size to his advantage?
Gonzo would eat Walls up on his routes and Walls size would be to no advantage.

That's my opinion.
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That's good to know, I was worried about Parker not being able to get off the line.
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That's good to know, I was worried about Parker not being able to get off the line.
Watch Walls when he lines up with Parker Monday night. I've yet to see him bump anybody off the line.
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In my opinion, that would be the worse match up we could possibly see. Walls usually covers the No#2 receiver and he isn't very good at that. Gonzo is the Chiefs No#1 threat basically. So you're asking Walls to cover the Chiefs No#1 receiver.

Walls size is over-rated. His cover skills are average and his bump and run skills are below average. It's hard to use that size when you are playing 5 to 10 yards off your receiver. How many times do you actually see Walls use his size to his advantage?
Gonzo would eat Walls up on his routes and Walls size would be to no advantage.

That's my opinion.
I've been syaing my prayers every night in hopes that the 10 yard cushion coverage would stop.
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Gonzo is the Chiefs #1 target, but he's still a tight end. That means he's slower and not as quick as his receiver counter parts. Obviously his power and ability to make catches in traffic are his advantage. I'm not real worried about who we put on him. I think it depends on the down and their tendencies as an offense. Coyer seems to have figured out the best way of defensing Gonzo, so I'm not concerned about that really.


And Bob, Bailey is a week healthier than last weak, so I'm pretty sure the shoulder is going to be even less of an issue than it was last week.
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In my opinion, that would be the worse match up we could possibly see. Walls usually covers the No#2 receiver and he isn't very good at that. Gonzo is the Chiefs No#1 threat basically. So you're asking Walls to cover the Chiefs No#1 receiver.

Walls size is over-rated. His cover skills are average and his bump and run skills are below average. It's hard to use that size when you are playing 5 to 10 yards off your receiver. How many times do you actually see Walls use his size to his advantage?
Gonzo would eat Walls up on his routes and Walls size would be to no advantage.

That's my opinion.
I do not think Coyer would allow Walls to play 10 yards off the TE. Walls does not do well with the double fakes but I think he would do well against Tony and has the speed to stay with him. Walls would get the safty help on Fergy also, it is not like he would have to man up on him. Looking past what you loose with Walls on Gonzo think about what you gain with Dwill on Parker. He is a tenacious little bugger in run support and would be better on the edge.

With Gonzo, I would have DJ bump him at the line, release him to Walls who could play agressively knowing he has over the top help in Lynch and Fergy. This would let DJ stay closer to the line and make plays off of the initial bump, paticularly with the RB coming out of the backfield.
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Gonzo is the Chiefs #1 target, but he's still a tight end. That means he's slower and not as quick as his receiver counter parts. Obviously his power and ability to make catches in traffic are his advantage. I'm not real worried about who we put on him. I think it depends on the down and their tendencies as an offense. Coyer seems to have figured out the best way of defensing Gonzo, so I'm not concerned about that really.


And Bob, Bailey is a week healthier than last weak, so I'm pretty sure the shoulder is going to be even less of an issue than it was last week.
Yeah but he always finds a way to get open. It's how you run the route and find the seams which he has a knack of doing. I think Walls would get schooled. Then again, we're not going to see it so it really don't matter. :-)
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I just hope Quitterson doesnt school Champ again.

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Quickness and instincts are the key if you're covering Gonzo. If he was running 30 and 40 yard deep routes I'd give the speed some credit. Gonzo is going to run mostly short to intermediate routes. He'll occassionaly get deep but not that often. I don't think speed is a big asset covering him.
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Nobody has really pointed this out, but Darrent was covering McCardell on a few downs. I wouldn't be surprised to see him covering Parker or even Kennison.
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Leaping ability is the main thing. If you put someone on Gonzalez that can't jump, Tony will eat them alive.
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Nobody has really pointed this out, but Darrent was covering McCardell on a few downs. I wouldn't be surprised to see him covering Parker or even Kennison.
Darrent has the ability to stay with almost anyone.
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I've been syaing my prayers every night in hopes that the 10 yard cushion coverage would stop.
I cringe everytime the ball goes to Walls side. Here's what you'll see. The receiver makes the catch, he gains another 7-12 yards and Walls makes the tackle. You see it over and over. I never see him deflect a pass or make a play on the ball. It's catch, run, and tackle. It's really disturbing.
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Well Coyer likes to use DBs on these top TEs (see Chgamp and Middlebrooks last year) I very much doubt we will see Champ covering him with the shoulder and definately not DWill (that would be halarious tho). I think Paymah would be a good choice as he very physical, but does not do well in zone. It then falls to Walls who at 6'4" would not have to leap much.
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I'm sure DJ will be shadowing him. If the front 4 can get a passrush going then coverage will get much tighter.
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I actually expect to see a combination/alternation of Champ and Fergy covering Gonzo. Is that the best match-up, who knows? That's just what I think.
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I want to see how our Dline does against the leftside of KC's line. Kelly and Burgress combined for 8 tackles and a sack against them. Our line with Pryce and Warren are much, much better at getting to the QB. Then we have Engelberger to toss in there to keep the pressure on.
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I expect we will see the same coverage that occurred last week on Gates, Fergy and a LB or Brandon on passing down.
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I think the real key is going to be the Dline pressure.
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Looking past what you loose with Walls on Gonzo think about what you gain with Dwill on Parker. He is a tenacious little bugger in run support and would be better on the edge.
D-Will has to show he can take on the bigger backs like a Johnson on the perimeter and not get run over because of his size.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:42 PM   #24
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I wouldn't change the game plan. Last time covering Gonzo worked pretty good, I'd do it again IIWY...

Covering Gonzo with Bailey allows you to keep Lynch and the LB's in the box to stop the run, which you'll need to do...
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:44 PM   #25
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With the Talent we got , no reason a simple zone shouldnt work ..... got to love How Gold gets to the QB .......
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