Monday Night Memories: 11/17/98

[easymobee]

MONDAY MIGHT MELTDOWN

Just a look back on a great game.

A game that the very mention of got me a ban warning over at the Planet when i was a Noob ( The Planet isn't too quick on the ban button either ).

This thread will act as Kryptonite to your average Chiefs fan ( In case you need to "get away" from the Planet All-Stars ).

Anyone else remember this one as fondly as me?


http://archive.profootballweekly.com...efs_113098.asp

Then came the 30-7 Monday-night meltdown against Denver, when three different players committed five cheap-shot fouls in a 4 1/2-minute span of mop-up time. Owner Lamar Hunt said the franchise and the city were embarrassed. Apologetic head coach Marty Schottenheimer said he was as disappointed as he’d ever been in his career, which said a ton.

There’s no leadership on that team,’’ Seahawk DB Mark Collins, once a recognized Chief leader, said after his current team beat his former one. "Marty wanted a bunch of thugs, and that’s what he’s got. Derrick Thomas, Chester McGlockton, Leslie O’Neal — those are three of the biggest egos in the league. There’s no one there to calm them down.’’

The more likely explanation is in Collins’ reference to the absence of veteran leadership. After the Denver debacle, second-year TE Tony Gonzalez was asked why some team leaders hadn’t stepped in to head off the cheap shots.

"The guys drawing the penalties are the team leaders,’’ he said sadly. "No one could have foreseen this. It’s a shock. Emotions are running high, and people are reacting in ways we never thought possible.’’

http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/football...omas111798.htm

Pro Bowl defensive end Derrick Thomas was suspended for one game Tuesday and linebacker Wayne Simmons was waived, a day after Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt said their actions "disgraced this organization as well as the community." Thomas, Simmons and defensive end Chester McGlockton drew a total of five personal foul penalties in a shocking breakdown of self control Monday night in the final minutes of Denver's 30-7 victory. Thomas, who's been to the Pro Bowl each of his nine seasons, was flagged once for hitting quarterback Bubby Brister in the head when he was on the ground and twice for pulling and twisting Denver tight end Shannon Sharpe's face mask. Thomas said. "To the youth of America that look up to Derrick Thomas, I apologize to you because that is not sportsmanlike conduct and you should not conduct yourself that way on the field."


"I've looked at the video and I say once again, I'm embarrassed, humiliated. I'm angry," Schottenheimer said. "I'm really disappointed that at the end of the football game some individuals decided what's best for this football team isn't important to them -- that their own personal agenda is what they're interested in."

http://www.cracksmoker.com/NFL/NFL%20SharpeS.htm

SHANNON SHARPE BLURBS

On his trash-talking limits: "I won't talk about someone's girlfriend, someone's mother or their wife. But if you have a deformity, I will talk about that."

On his antics this season: "I got a guy suspended (Chiefs linebacker Derrick Thomas). I got a guy cut (Chiefs linebacker Wayne Simmons). One coach resigned (Marty Schottenheimer). Another thought about resigning (Jimmy Johnson). I'm pretty good. I might have to go into politics, huh?" On Falcons cornerback Ray Buchanan: "When you got guys who worry about their looks like Ray Buchanan, more worried about putting on makeup and their eye-liner than playing football and covering receivers, you're in trouble. So tell him to take his lipstick off, take off his heels and the wig, and he won't have to worry about this. I'm not saying that he's a cross-dresser ... but that's what I heard."




http://archive.profootballweekly.com...ily_111798.asp


Assigning blame is an inexact science, but one thing was very clear after Monday night’s Chief-Bronco game.

It wasn’t Elvis Grbac’s fault.

Rich Gannon started at quarterback for Kansas City in its biggest game of the season — and last hope to kick-start a playoff run — and the Chiefs still lost. It wouldn’t have made much of a difference if Grbac had started, because the Chiefs couldn’t run the ball, and they couldn’t stop Denver’s offense.

Nobody has been able to slow down the Bronco Express, which not only improved to 10-0 with its 30-7 win over the Chiefs, but scored 30 or more points in a game for the seventh time this year. Then again, the Chiefs weren’t supposed to be a bunch of nobodies. With Chester McGlockton joining an all-star cast, Kansas City was supposed to have the best defense in the AFC, and perhaps the entire NFL. Instead, the Chiefs have been softer than a puppy’s tummy against the run. And the supposed best player on that defense, "Falcon" Derrick Thomas, hasn’t been heard from — at least not in a positive light — since Week One, when he blitzed the Raiders for six sacks.

On Monday night, Thomas freaked out, committing three consecutive personal-foul facemask penalties against Denver’s Shannon Sharpe. After the third one, Thomas finally was pulled from the game, but only because the Chiefs were using their goalline defense. He should have been pulled after the second violation, by either head coach Marty Schottenheimer or the referees. There’s no place for antics like Thomas’.

Schottenheimer, who’s under fire, can make a statement about who’s in charge by suspending Thomas for a game. In the next few days, you’ll no doubt hear whispers that Schottenheimer has "lost" his players, whatever that means. He can ensure that doesn’t happen by coming down hard on Thomas, which would send a message.

The ’98 Chiefs are a lost cause, to be sure, and Kansas City’s fans will be calling for Schottenheimer to get lost once the season ends. Chief GM Carl Peterson isn’t the type to panic, and firing Schottenheimer would be a huge mistake. In each of his first nine years in K.C., Schottenheimer’s Chiefs finished either first or second in their division, posting a winning record each season. I doubt the Chiefs could find a head coach with a better résumé.

Chief management miscalculated in the offseason by failing to find a suitable replacement or replacements for Marcus Allen and Greg Hill. Allen was a clutch player and team leader. Hill wasn’t great, but he was good enough to complement Allen. With Dave Szott, the best offensive guard in football, out most of the season with a torn triceps, the Chiefs need a running back who can gain yards on his own. On their current roster, they don’t have one.

That’s not Elvis Grbac’s fault, either.

[Atlas]

A 30-7 drubbing put on the Chefs by Bubby Brister!! You have to love that!!!

[easymobee]

Another blurb that i thought was good.

http://archive.profootballweekly.com...ily_102798.asp

Honestly, I swear I was not drinking when I picked the Chiefs to represent the AFC in Super Bowl XXXIII. On paper, they appeared to have the best defense in the land. Offensively, they appeared to be good enough to at least win the AFC West.

Now, I’d say Kansas City doesn’t belong in the same universe as Denver.

[Northman]

ahh yes, the very night i became a Chef hater. without a doubt one of the most pathetic display of humanity and sportsmanship of any NFL team.

[Florida_Bronco]

This is one game that I've never heard any Chief fan have a logical defense for...and since we all know what homers they are, that alone tells you how horrible they were that night.

My dad wouldn't even acknowledge being a Chief fan for weeks after that.

[Crushaholic]

Excellent. In no way do I predict an outcome like this Monday, but wouldn't it be fun?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That was an awful game.

[Iowanian]

In 1982, the Broncos could throw a football over that Mountain.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Pics from that game:

http://www.kcstar.com/cgi-bin/photog...ry/broncos1117

[ludo21]

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

This is one game that I've never heard any Chief fan have a logical defense for...and since we all know what homers they are, that alone tells you how horrible they were that night.

My dad wouldn't even acknowledge being a Chief fan for weeks after that.

Same happened to other Chef fans i knew..... "I was never a fan, i mean i liked them, but i wasnt a fan persay"

Bad game all around on their part tho.

[easymobee]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

In 1982, the Broncos could throw a football over that Mountain.

Its just a look back on one of our more memorable MNF games.

I see the Elway-Montana game bought up over at the Planet on a semi-regular basis ( thats an older game to boot )



Chiefs and Broncos on MNF usually leads to something special or unusual.

Atwater on Okoye.

Elway - Montana

Monday Night Meltdown

just about every time the powers that be match us up ..... the game helps to make up for a few of the clunkers that they end up scheduling over the course of a season.

[easymobee]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Pics from that game:

http://www.kcstar.com/cgi-bin/photog...ry/broncos1117

Nice Find

I had a really hard time finding pics to add to this thread.

Interesting that the pics included on this page contain no content of what the game is most famous for ( in fact they seem to cut off after the 3rd quarter altogether )

-EDIT-

You may not be my favorite poster Bob, but i have to give you some credit for knowing where to find the best pics.

Too bad. i'm out of rep or i might give you some right about now.

I have a feeling that i'll come to my senses in the next 24 hours.

So have some hypothetical rep.

[RhymesayersDU]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

In 1982, the Broncos could throw a football over that Mountain.

1984*

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by easymobee

Nice Find

I had a really hard time finding pics to add to this thread.

Interesting that the pics included on this page contain no content of what the game is most famous for ( in fact they seem to cut off after the 3rd quarter altogether )

More here on page 19 and 20

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/sou...%7c0&p=2&tag=1

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

In 1982, the Broncos could throw a football over that Mountain.

In 1970, the Cheaps won Super Bowl IV on their way to a sure dynasty...

OOPS!

[bloodsunday]

aaaahhhhhhhhh... the gold days. When Mile High was a magical place (and a beer cost less than a keg at the liquor store). Life was never better as a Broncos fan. I got pretty drunk watching that game at a Bar here in Denver. I honestly wasn't sure we'd lose that season. I think that was the most scared those 72 Dolphin morons have ever been.

"Una soda por favor. I can't drink cerveza anymore. Because if I do, I fear I'll fall down on the flow. Una soda por favor."

[bloodsunday]

http://www.kcstar.com/cgi-bin/photog...ry/broncos1117

Darius Johnson used to have the best 'fro going.

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by bloodsunday

aaaahhhhhhhhh... the gold days. When Mile High was a magical place (and a beer cost less than a keg at the liquor store). Life was never better as a Broncos fan. I got pretty drunk watching that game at a Bar here in Denver. I honestly wasn't sure we'd lose that season. I think that was the most scared those 72 Dolphin morons have ever been.

going in to that game, I told my friend who is a KC fan, that this would be the game we would lose

that and the Miami game

Man I was wrong about the KC game, that was an ass beating

[bloodsunday]

Originally Posted by easymobee

SHANNON SHARPE BLURBS

On his trash-talking limits: "I won't talk about someone's girlfriend, someone's mother or their wife. But if you have a deformity, I will talk about that."

On his antics this season: "I got a guy suspended (Chiefs linebacker Derrick Thomas). I got a guy cut (Chiefs linebacker Wayne Simmons). One coach resigned (Marty Schottenheimer). Another thought about resigning (Jimmy Johnson). I'm pretty good. I might have to go into politics, huh?" On Falcons cornerback Ray Buchanan: "When you got guys who worry about their looks like Ray Buchanan, more worried about putting on makeup and their eye-liner than playing football and covering receivers, you're in trouble. So tell him to take his lipstick off, take off his heels and the wig, and he won't have to worry about this. I'm not saying that he's a cross-dresser ... but that's what I heard."

I miss Shannon. He was not only funny, but an absolute bad-ass warrior on the football field. And he was clutch.

[bloodsunday]

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

that and the Miami game

Shanny came about this "" close to admitting we held back in the Miami game in his book. After we lost to the Giants he knew we would see Miami in the playoffs and didn't want to give them anything. I'd say it was a good call

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...idenver_notes/

Said Sharpe:
"I said we were 10 to 14 points better," Sharpe said. "My prognostication was wrong. We were 35 points better."

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by bloodsunday

I miss Shannon. He was not only funny, but an absolute bad-ass warrior on the football field. And he was clutch.

He definitely made watching Broncos games that much more fun...

[bronco militia]

classic!

[ScottXray]

That game WAS nice....
I don't want to rain on anyones parade...BUT.....

I want a NEW memory of a a KC ass kicking at Invesco.

Start a NEW streak of Monday night wins this coming week.

Set a NEW tone for this team.

This thread reminds me too much of Raider fans and their "team of the decades" crap. Lets not live on old victories. They were nice. They and those palyers are History.

This team needs to look Forward.

[DomCasual]

This game was just surreal. I destinctly remember wondering if I was dreaming. No, really! That stuff just didn't happen in professional athletics. Derrick Thomas (RIP) just lost it!

And then there were the other factors: their record, the fact that it was the Chiefs (easily the team I hate the most - no offense, Raiders fans), Bubby starting (still puts my heart in my throat), the '72 Dolphins - just an all-around great experience!.

And the quote from Shannon Sharpe about deformities is one of my all-time favorites.

[Iowanian]

There is no denying it for any realistic Chiefs fan. That game was an embarrassment