1,900 Dead – And The Truth We Dare Not Speak

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by errand

Senator Dick Turban referred to our troops running Getmo as Nazis and murderous thugs like Pol Pot....you didn't denounce him, in fact you expelled alot of effort in defending him ....that would tell any sane person that you agree withn Senator Turban's assessment.

He rightfully and correctly pointed out the similarities where they existed.

He didn't call "the troops" "Nazi thugs and murderers" as you claim.

Prove that he did.

Originally Posted by errand

Actually I know why some Americans always expect failure...because they're liberals...and that's the way of life for them. They expect failure because they themselves are nothing but failures. They moan and groan about life giving them lemons and never think to make lemonade out of it.

Always getting it bass-ackwards, aren't you?

Bush and the neocons - not liberals - are responsible for the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Bush and the neocons - not liberals - are responsible for the subsequent handling of Iraq.

Therefore, the failure is on them - not the liberals.

What is it about right-wingers and their pathological inability to take responsibility for their own actions?

[errand]

Here's a couple for you clowns....now keep in mind you defended this piece of **** who claimed our troops treatment of terrorists were on par with the Nazi's, Getmo is like a Soviet gulag, and murderous regimes like Pol Pot.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/politics/06/...tanamo.durbin/

And while I'm sure you clowns have this website at the top of your favorites, I'll link it as well.....

http://english.aljazeera.net/nr/exer...BC52506824.htm

[errand]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

He rightfully and correctly pointed out the similarities where they existed.

He didn't call "the troops" "Nazi thugs and murderers" as you claim.

Prove that he did.

....so if I said your mom's ears were similiar to an elephant's, you wouldn't take that as my saying her ears are as big as an elephant's?

...if I pointed out that your actions were similiar to those of a traitor, you wouldn't consider my claim being the same as calling you a traitor?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by errand

Here's a couple for you clowns....now keep in mind you defended this piece of **** who claimed our troops treatment of terrorists were on par with the Nazi's, Getmo is like a Soviet gulag, and murderous regimes like Pol Pot.

But moron:

He was telling the truth.

Some of the things Americans have done to prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, etc., are the same kinds of things that were done by those other regimes you mentioned - thanks to the sociopath you voted for.

You can't handle the truth, so you shoot the messenger and act like you occupy some kind of moral high ground when all you are really doing is justifying torture in the interest of partisan politics.

"This Bush administration, which already held the world record as the most deluded government in history, has now taken denial to unprecedented highs by blaming Syria and Iran for its "Iraqi problem." Why didn't Americans realize that it is dangerous to put a buffoon in charge of the US government who hasn't a clue about the world around him, what he is doing or the consequences of his actions?"

- Paul Craig Roberts, Republican who worked for Reagan

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by errand

I have to ask why any American would "expect" us to fail at anything, when history shows we very rarely do. then again, your a liberal, and failure is acceptable in your world because the biggest failures are highly respected in your inner circle.

Jimmy Carter , arguably the worst president ever, and if not that, then at the least the worst in our lifetime....well respected by liberals everywhere.

Howard Dean, couldn't even win one state in the Dem primary....now runs the DNC.

Ted Kennedy has brought more embarrassment on not only the Kennedy name, but the Democrat party as well.....one of the most respected men in your liberal world.

Either way, expecting failure or hoping for it....it's un-American.

I guess in some ways we are succeeding. During Vietnam, it took over 50,000 American deaths before the American people realized that the war was a stupid waste of life and money. Now, it's only taken us 2,000 American lives.

How many times do you have to be lied to, before you stop listening to the liars? Like W.C. Fields said, "Nobody ever made any money by wising up a sucker."

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by angryllama

You are living in a dream world if you think that "we the people" are in any way anyones boss outside of our own workplace. You have bought into the pie in the sky.

Wow. That entire statement is the absolute antithesis of the way our American system was set up. But sheep away if it makes you feel "civil". I will continue to call out our representatives in whatever manner is appropriate given the situation. A policy executed under false pretenses that gets Americans killed equates to a not-so-civil response from me.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Wow. That entire statement is the absolute antithesis of the way our American system was set up. But sheep away if it makes you feel "civil". I will continue to call out our representatives in whatever manner is appropriate given the situation. A policy executed under false pretenses that gets Americans killed equates to a not-so-civil response from me.

You call the president out on this message board and in your personal life maybe, but what does that really accomplish? Unless you are directly involved in politics, your opinion is pretty much worthless. Join a PAC...go to your local council meetings and get involved at the grassroots level. Im not saying that you shouldnt expect your civil servants to do a quality job, Im saying that the trash talk is juvenile.

[errand]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

But moron:

He was telling the truth.

Some of the things Americans have done to prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, etc., are the same kinds of things that were done by those other regimes you mentioned - thanks to the sociopath you voted for.

You can't handle the truth, so you shoot the messenger and act like you occupy some kind of moral high ground when all you are really doing is justifying torture in the interest of partisan politics.

No, I'm pointing out that you clowns on the left hate this nation, and the men and women who do their best to defend it....

Terrorists cut off heads of hostages, and your b****ing about our troops putting panties on their heads

Terrorists target and murder innocent women and children...and you clowns b**** about one or two of them being made to squat ina room with the AC blasting on high.

Saddam Hussein murdered and/or ordered the murder of hundreds of thousands of people and your b****ing about George Bush taking a vacation.

Terrorists drag charred bodies of American civilians thru the streets of Fallujah and hang them on a bridge, and your b****ing about how we handle the Koran in Getmo.

Seems to me all that anger you have would be better spent fighting and disparaging our real enemy rather than your imaginary one.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by errand

No, I'm pointing out that you clowns on the left hate this nation, and the men and women who do their best to defend it....

Apparently you believe that if you simply repeat the same old mantra "criticism of Bush's policies = hatred of America" often enough it will somehow become a valid argument.

Originally Posted by errand

Terrorists cut off heads of hostages, and your b****ing about our troops putting panties on their heads

Terrorists target and murder innocent women and children...and you clowns b**** about one or two of them being made to squat ina room with the AC blasting on high.

So now you're trying to claim that "putting panties on people's heads" and "making them squat in a room with the AC on high" are the only things that have been done in our names?

Your habit of completely disregarding the truth and the facts so egregiously is astounding.

Originally Posted by errand

Saddam Hussein murdered and/or ordered the murder of hundreds of thousands of people and your b****ing about George Bush taking a vacation.

WTF does one have to do with the other?

Originally Posted by errand

Terrorists drag charred bodies of American civilians thru the streets of Fallujah and hang them on a bridge, and your b****ing about how we handle the Koran in Getmo.

Those Americans wouldn't have been in harm's way in the first place if the crooked moron you're defending hadn't sent them there on false pretenses, so don't even think about pretending you occupy the high ground there.

And you are insane if you think desecrating copies of the Koran is either prudent or justifiable, given the nominal political objective of the war, viz., selling "democracy and freedom" to the Middle East.

Originally Posted by errand

Seems to me all that anger you have would be better spent fighting and disparaging our real enemy rather than your imaginary one.

All that anger I have?

Did you even bother to read your frothing-at-the-mouth post before you hit "submit reply?"

And the irony of someone like you criticizing others for their inability to identify their real enemy is just too funny.

If you want to know your real enemy, I suggest you start by looking in the mirror.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by errand

No, I'm pointing out that you clowns on the left hate this nation, and the men and women who do their best to defend it....

Terrorists cut off heads of hostages, and your b****ing about our troops putting panties on their heads

Terrorists target and murder innocent women and children...and you clowns b**** about one or two of them being made to squat ina room with the AC blasting on high.

Saddam Hussein murdered and/or ordered the murder of hundreds of thousands of people and your b****ing about George Bush taking a vacation.

Terrorists drag charred bodies of American civilians thru the streets of Fallujah and hang them on a bridge, and your b****ing about how we handle the Koran in Getmo.

Seems to me all that anger you have would be better spent fighting and disparaging our real enemy rather than your imaginary one.

These are the people that are putting our country in peril. They vote only party lines. They are either too ignorant, uneducated or too stupid to accept reality.