DJ vs DJ - The Orange Mane

Saulbadguy · 09-19-2005, 08:32 AM

Just food for thought. Discuss amongst yourselves

Derrick Johnson:

17 Tackles (2nd amongst rookies,16th overall)
15 Solo tackles (1st amongst rookies)
1 FF
1 FR
1 Sack

DJ Williams:
7 Tackles (6 solo)
0 sacks
No FF/FR

crazyhorse · 09-19-2005, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Just food for thought. Discuss amongst yourselves

Derrick Johnson:

17 Tackles (2nd amongst rookies,16th overall)
15 Solo tackles (1st amongst rookies)
1 FF
1 FR
1 Sack

DJ Williams:
7 Tackles (6 solo)
0 sacks
No FF/FR

Gee, that's a toughy.

RhymesayersDU · 09-19-2005, 08:36 AM

Well... Derrick Johnson is ugly and can't read good.

Rock Chalk · 09-19-2005, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Just food for thought. Discuss amongst yourselves

Derrick Johnson:

17 Tackles (2nd amongst rookies,16th overall)
15 Solo tackles (1st amongst rookies)
1 FF
1 FR
1 Sack

DJ Williams:
7 Tackles (6 solo)
0 sacks
No FF/FR

Our DJ is playing out of position....food for thought.

ZachKC · 09-19-2005, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Our DJ is playing out of position....food for thought.

Why?

Ratboy · 09-19-2005, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Gee, that's a toughy.

You still can't read?

watermock · 09-19-2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Our DJ is playing out of position....food for thought.

As much as SoCal and Slappy hate it, Gold is outplaying D.J. so far. But to be fair, I know DJ is livid about being moved to Sam. He's being the good soldier so far, but it was a move that might ensure that he bolts when he can. He will grow into the position, give him time.

Ratboy · 09-19-2005, 08:43 AM

The chiefs fans are forgetting DJ Williams already had a rookie season were tallied up 114 tackles 1 int 2 sacks

Rock Chalk · 09-19-2005, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Why?

Because they brought mighty mouse back for some reason.

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2005, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZachKC

Why?

He's not playing weak side like last year because we aquired Ian Gold...so he was moved to the less flashy side of strong side

Saulbadguy · 09-19-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratboy

The chiefs fans are forgetting DJ Williams already had a rookie season were tallied up 114 tackles 1 int 2 sacks

I didn't forget that. I posted those stats in a thread on Chiefsplanet, but did not feel they were relevant to this discussion. They still aren't, but here they are.

Through 2 games in 2004:
DJ Williams

11 Tackles (8 Solo)
1 Sack
1 Pass deflected
No FF/FR

Mile High Shack · 09-19-2005, 08:47 AM

weak side LBs get more tackles than SS linebackers

football 101

Saulbadguy · 09-19-2005, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

weak side LBs get more tackles than SS linebackers

football 101

Was not aware of the move. I still figured he played the will. Why would they put Ian Gold there?

bendog · 09-19-2005, 08:48 AM

oh, I thought this was one of those homer threads comparing DJ to DW .... nevermind.

Rock Chalk · 09-19-2005, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Was not aware of the move. I still figured he played the will. Why would they put Ian Gold there?

Ian can barely cover Quentin Griffin, what makes you think he could cover a TE?

Mile High Shack · 09-19-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Was not aware of the move. I still figured he played the will. Why would they put Ian Gold there?

don't ask me, it's 50/50 on Ian around here

I still say bringing him back was a mistake, sure Ian looks good now, but by week 10 his 200 lb frame starts wearing down

and like Alec said, Ian can't cover a TE

Ratboy · 09-19-2005, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

weak side LBs get more tackles than SS linebackers

football 101

Ommgzz tehy do? Derrick iz 1337 !

NYBroncoManiac · 09-19-2005, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I didn't forget that. I posted those stats in a thread on Chiefsplanet, but did not feel they were relevant to this discussion. They still aren't, but here they are.

Through 2 games in 2004:
DJ Williams

11 Tackles (8 Solo)
1 Sack
1 Pass deflected
No FF/FR

Oh, give me a friggin' break! Even someone of your questionable intelligence must realize that you can't really make an accurate comparison based on only 2 games... I would say you can't make an accuralte comparison based on only one season either. It's the career that matters... does the player continue to improve?

ZachKC · 09-19-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBroncoManiac

Oh, give me a friggin' break! Even someone of your questionable intelligence must realize that you can't really make an accurate comparison based on only 2 games... I would say you can't make an accuralte comparison based on only one season either. It's the career that matters... does the player continue to improve?

Just throwing stuff out there...I think you overstate how seriously he is taking it.

Just food for thought ya know?

watermock · 09-19-2005, 09:03 AM

There isn't a poster here with even subhuman intelligence that wouldn't of loved to get Derrick Johnson you fool. He fell right in your lap. It wasn't some genius draft day move, it was the fact the Chefs SUCKED AND WENT 7-9. Then, clowns like "pac-man" Jones were taken in front of you. Honestly, I'm surprised King Carl didn't pass on him. On draft day, when Johnson dropped much, much further than he should of, I was starting to scream for a big move up...but we had allready lost our #1 pick for next year with Washington, and I don't think he was worth trading both #1's. I imagine that there was some frantic phone calling, but even King Carl wasn't stupid to pass on such a gift.

So don't act like it was some act of genius to get Johnson, he fell right into your laps. It's like bragging you get a short bus because your "special". Sheesh.

bendog · 09-19-2005, 09:40 AM

If the slots were reversed, I'd think Den would take one of the dlineman rather than Johnson, and the chefs first guy was reported at teh time to be Davis, but he went one pick earlier. As to why playing out of position is an issue, I don't think Johnson can play mike and will, while DJ maybe can. Gold sucks. We coulda had a guard and kept Spragan for the price.

ludo21 · 09-19-2005, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendog

If the slots were reversed, I'd think Den would take one of the dlineman rather than Johnson, and the chefs first guy was reported at teh time to be Davis, but he went one pick earlier. As to why playing out of position is an issue, I don't think Johnson can play mike and will, while DJ maybe can. Gold sucks. We coulda had a guard and kept Spragan for the price.

I like Gold... but Spragan was playing well.... and i definitely thought we should of attacked Demulling more than we did.

watermock · 09-19-2005, 09:46 AM

Altho the move to bring in Gold was rather odd, considering the price and the need to move Williams, he's played well from all accounts and has made plays. I saw him in week one, and he doesn't look like a safety anymore. He doesn't exactly look like a LB, but he's filled out some. He had several big plays yesterday. He just has some detractors. Namely, Slappy, who is still waiting for Pierce to "break out"...is he even on the team?...and SoCal the Miami homer who's nose is so far up D.J. Williams butt crack he can't see the light of day.

Next.

GreatBronco16 · 09-19-2005, 09:49 AM

Actually, why not compare our DJ to your Kendrall Bell since they are playing the same position this year.

Taco John · 09-19-2005, 09:53 AM

Chiefs fans... They want to compare linebackers based on their names, rather than the positions that they actually play.

Surface level football knowledge. Gotta love it!

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09-19-2005, 08:32 AM	#1
Saulbadguy Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,923	DJ vs DJ Just food for thought. Discuss amongst yourselves Derrick Johnson: 17 Tackles (2nd amongst rookies,16th overall) 15 Solo tackles (1st amongst rookies) 1 FF 1 FR 1 Sack DJ Williams: 7 Tackles (6 solo) 0 sacks No FF/FR Last edited by Saulbadguy; 09-19-2005 at 08:47 AM..

09-19-2005, 08:36 AM	#3
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Well... Derrick Johnson is ugly and can't read good.

09-19-2005, 08:43 AM	#8
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	The chiefs fans are forgetting DJ Williams already had a rookie season were tallied up 114 tackles 1 int 2 sacks

09-19-2005, 08:47 AM	#12
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	weak side LBs get more tackles than SS linebackers football 101

09-19-2005, 08:48 AM	#14
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	oh, I thought this was one of those homer threads comparing DJ to DW .... nevermind.

09-19-2005, 09:03 AM	#20
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	There isn't a poster here with even subhuman intelligence that wouldn't of loved to get Derrick Johnson you fool. He fell right in your lap. It wasn't some genius draft day move, it was the fact the Chefs SUCKED AND WENT 7-9. Then, clowns like "pac-man" Jones were taken in front of you. Honestly, I'm surprised King Carl didn't pass on him. On draft day, when Johnson dropped much, much further than he should of, I was starting to scream for a big move up...but we had allready lost our #1 pick for next year with Washington, and I don't think he was worth trading both #1's. I imagine that there was some frantic phone calling, but even King Carl wasn't stupid to pass on such a gift. So don't act like it was some act of genius to get Johnson, he fell right into your laps. It's like bragging you get a short bus because your "special". Sheesh.

09-19-2005, 09:40 AM	#21
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	If the slots were reversed, I'd think Den would take one of the dlineman rather than Johnson, and the chefs first guy was reported at teh time to be Davis, but he went one pick earlier. As to why playing out of position is an issue, I don't think Johnson can play mike and will, while DJ maybe can. Gold sucks. We coulda had a guard and kept Spragan for the price.

09-19-2005, 09:46 AM	#23
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Altho the move to bring in Gold was rather odd, considering the price and the need to move Williams, he's played well from all accounts and has made plays. I saw him in week one, and he doesn't look like a safety anymore. He doesn't exactly look like a LB, but he's filled out some. He had several big plays yesterday. He just has some detractors. Namely, Slappy, who is still waiting for Pierce to "break out"...is he even on the team?...and SoCal the Miami homer who's nose is so far up D.J. Williams butt crack he can't see the light of day. Next.

09-19-2005, 09:49 AM	#24
GreatBronco16 !!!TEAM!!! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bama Baby Posts: 5,846 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Defense	Actually, why not compare our DJ to your Kendrall Bell since they are playing the same position this year.

09-19-2005, 09:53 AM	#25
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Chiefs fans... They want to compare linebackers based on their names, rather than the positions that they actually play. Surface level football knowledge. Gotta love it!