Rams Executive Threatens Reporter - The Orange Mane

-Slap- · 09-14-2005, 09:48 AM

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Team disciplines official for leaving nasty message

Wednesday September 14, 2005 12:25PM

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- An executive with the St. Louis Rams will be reprimanded for leaving a threatening phone message on the voice mail of a St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist.

The Rams told the Post-Dispatch that team executive Samir Suleiman faces discipline, but declined to say what it would be. A call to the Rams on Wednesday was not returned.
"It's shocking that he would leave a message like that," Rams president John Shaw told the Post-Dispatch. "It's the type of behavior that we don't condone at any level. He will be reprimanded, and it will be handled internally."

On Aug. 28, sports columnist Bernie Miklasz wrote that he was disturbed by "infighting and politics" within the Rams organization, and said executives owe any head coach their support.

"Be it (Mike) Martz or another man, I don't care who sits in the head coach's office at Rams Park. The head coach should be backed, not back-stabbed, by associates," Miklasz wrote.

Suleiman left a message on Miklasz's voice mail, stating, in part, "tell your source that I'm not a back-stabber, I'm a (expletive) throat slasher, and he'll know the difference before it's all said and done."

Suleiman, director of football administration, has worked for the Rams for six years. He assists president of football operations Jay Zygmunt on salary cap issues and contract negotiations.

Shaw said the phone message showed "a lack of judgment. I really don't understand it, to be honest with you."

Such a classy organization.

epicSocialism4tw · 09-14-2005, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Such a classy organization.

Far be it for an arab to threaten someone with throat-slashing. How ironic is this? This is a potential PR nightmare for the NFL. This guy should be immediately fired.

watermock · 09-14-2005, 09:57 AM

Jeepers. That guy needs to write for Al Jezzera. The media is the media. In typically weak kneed Martz style, the guy wasn't fired as soon as this came out. That isn't even acceptable on a forum board, yet alone from an team official. I understand the guy was upset about the loss, insulted (maybe), but that was a rather odd way to respond, to say the least. The weirdest thing is he seemed to validate the reporters take. I'm not sure what the hell he meant, If he was threatening the reporter or Martz...How stupid can you possibly be to say that on E-mail to a freaking reporter from the main paper?

ludo21 · 09-14-2005, 10:01 AM

hmmmm.... this will soon be headlines. You just dont do or say stuff like that.

Hotrod · 09-14-2005, 10:02 AM

Wow even the chefs Front Office is smarter then that.

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-14-2005, 10:05 AM

Christ. a-holes like this guy are the reason I dumped journalism.

Pat Bowlen · 09-14-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

Far be it for an arab to threaten someone with throat-slashing.

Christ.

Crush Girl · 09-14-2005, 10:11 AM

Wow. I am shocked and appalled, as everyone should be. That is just plain unacceptable for anyone to say! He should have been immediately fired.

DomCasual · 09-14-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Such a classy organization.

Note to self: When threatening someone, do not leave the threat on someone's voicemail. BAD IDEA! BAD!

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-14-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat Bowlen

Christ.

He only supported ear-slashing.

epicSocialism4tw · 09-14-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat Bowlen

Christ.

We wouldnt want someone stating the obvious, now would we? Oh wait, that is not politically correct, so any logic that results in the isolation of cultural traits to one specific culture is unbearable and should be censored?

Or we could use common sense and approach the problem in reality. I'll go with the latter and you can abide in your imaginary eutopia.

clint7 · 09-14-2005, 10:21 AM

I'm sure ol' Samir will "know the difference before it's all said and done" between being employed and being unemployed.

PatsWin2002 · 09-14-2005, 10:47 AM

I pop into Bernie Miklasz's forum on STLToday once in a while. He seems like a nice enough guy.

Bernie's forum:
http://forums.stltoday.com/viewforum.php?f=9

Since SB36 I've gotten a good perspective on the St. Louis media. It's weird because there's only 1 major newspaper and John Hadley is off on the side always embattled with someone.

New York and Boston are media circuses because of their size and notoriety, but the circus in St. Louis takes the cake.

Pat Bowlen · 09-14-2005, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

We wouldnt want someone stating the obvious, now would we? Oh wait, that is not politically correct, so any logic that results in the isolation of cultural traits to one specific culture is unbearable and should be censored?

Or we could use common sense and approach the problem in reality. I'll go with the latter and you can abide in your imaginary eutopia.

There's no denying that the man being Middle Eastern could probably make things more complicated. I interpreted your post to say that you found it typical of an Arab to make threats like that.

Tredici · 09-14-2005, 11:01 AM

"tell your source that I'm not a back-stabber, I'm a (expletive) throat slasher, and he'll know the difference before it's all said and done."

It seems to me he wasn't referring to either Martz or the reporter but some gutless, no name "source". Seems like if you want to get your perspective reported in the paper, and it includes name calling, you should have the balls to say who you are.

Rock Chalk · 09-14-2005, 11:03 AM

Being a ****ing throat slasher isnt threatening either. I dont get this. Its essentially the same as saying "Im a cutthroat business man"

Garcia Bronco · 09-14-2005, 11:14 AM

I think more reporters need to be threatened.

Tredici · 09-14-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I think more reporters need to be threatened.

Yeah, and that goes for their little sources too...

Garcia Bronco · 09-14-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tredici

Yeah, and that goes for their little sources too...

In a way...yes...we're essentially talking about a whistle blower...a tattle-tale. Pardon the expression...but if one can't be man enough to say it the open...then one shouldn't say it.

Bronco_Beerslug · 09-14-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

Being a ****ing throat slasher isnt threatening either. I dont get this. Its essentially the same as saying "Im a cutthroat business man"

That's what I'd be putting on my resume when I went looking for my new job and hope my new employer would buy it.

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

In a way...yes...we're essentially talking about a whistle blower...a tattle-tale. Pardon the expression...but if one can't be man enough to say it the open...then one shouldn't say it.

Then the world would quit turning and we no longer would find out what was really going on in it. I have nothing but kudos for the tattle-tell industry

Rock Chalk · 09-14-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

That's what I'd be putting on my resume when I went looking for my new job and hope my new employer would buy it.

I just suspected before, but you just proved it, you really are a tool.

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Then the world would quit turning and we no longer would find out what was really going on in it. I have nothing but kudos for the tattle-tell industry

Just like a little narc. What a b**** you are.

Pezman · 09-14-2005, 11:44 AM

Sometimes hired sports geeks really do bring out the worst in humanity with their notorious sources, holier-than-thou attitude and presumptuous takes, but to threaten them? That just seems like a two-bit response to them. I'm sure if this had happened in a New York fishwrap, we'd have seen it sprawled all over the front pages just to sensationalize the whole thing.

Actually, I'm rather suprised we dont hear this kind of thing more often. Especially with hacks like Bob Kravitz out there stinking up the newsprint...

Garcia Bronco · 09-14-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

That's what I'd be putting on my resume when I went looking for my new job and hope my new employer would buy it.

Then the world would quit turning and we no longer would find out what was really going on in it. I have nothing but kudos for the tattle-tell industry

Of course not...but you have all the moral fiber of a complete rat-fink-puss

-Slap- · 09-14-2005, 12:24 PM

There doesn't appear to be any "source". Miklasz made the comment that members of the Rams front office weren't fully supporting Martz and that the front man in the organization deserves better.

This excitible cretin obviously feels like he's one of the non believers in question, so he decided to start popping off. I think he used the word "source" to try and cover his own ass, when he was clearly threatening Miklasz personally. Very cowardly.

Bronco_Beerslug · 09-14-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Of course not...but you have all the moral fiber of a complete rat-fink-puss

What's the problem, you don't approve of my "moral fiber"?

09-14-2005, 11:44 AM	#22
Pezman Livin the dream Andy did you hear about this one? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Smoggy SoCal Posts: 9,833 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Sometimes hired sports geeks really do bring out the worst in humanity with their notorious sources, holier-than-thou attitude and presumptuous takes, but to threaten them? That just seems like a two-bit response to them. I'm sure if this had happened in a New York fishwrap, we'd have seen it sprawled all over the front pages just to sensationalize the whole thing. Actually, I'm rather suprised we dont hear this kind of thing more often. Especially with hacks like Bob Kravitz out there stinking up the newsprint... __________________ Sitting on a beach, earning 20%

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Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	"tell your source that I'm not a back-stabber, I'm a (expletive) throat slasher, and he'll know the difference before it's all said and done." It seems to me he wasn't referring to either Martz or the reporter but some gutless, no name "source". Seems like if you want to get your perspective reported in the paper, and it includes name calling, you should have the balls to say who you are.

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-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	There doesn't appear to be any "source". Miklasz made the comment that members of the Rams front office weren't fully supporting Martz and that the front man in the organization deserves better. This excitible cretin obviously feels like he's one of the non believers in question, so he decided to start popping off. I think he used the word "source" to try and cover his own ass, when he was clearly threatening Miklasz personally. Very cowardly.