Is anybody even remotely concerned about this game? - The Orange Mane

RhymesayersDU · 09-10-2005, 10:01 AM

You know, I hate to be that guy who brings down the party. And I hate those people who are constantly negative too, with never a good thing to say about anything, so I'm gunna try and not be that.

But... with that said, a lot of this talk reminds me of the year we let the Jagwads come in and beat us in the playoffs.

Now granted, this isn't the playoffs, it's only the first game of the season. But, with that said, I don't think anybody is even remotely taking in a huge X factor that could be in play this Sunday:

The fact that our Broncos chronically play down to the level of lesser opponents.

The pre-season looked good, I know. But the Cardinals have gone undefeated before and not won 5 games all regular season.

Like I said, I don't want to be negative. In fact, I'm excited for the season and possibilities with these guys. But at the same time, I think a lot is going to be proved this Sunday for this team. I just get this vibe that everybody is marking us down as 1-0 already, and even if they win, I think they still need to show some things.

rbackfactory80 · 09-10-2005, 10:05 AM

I think this game is in no way a wash. This is an nfl team we are playing that should have a pretty tough defense. This game should be close and I expect us to win but not by much even though we don't have the best record at pro players stadium.

2KBack · 09-10-2005, 10:07 AM

The mystery factor concerns me. If this game was anything but week 1, I wouldn't have any worries, but without having any idea how Saban plans on presenting this team, I admit a little aprehension.

Just about everything points to a good Denver win, but I can't shake that little sliver of doubt.

labronco · 09-10-2005, 10:11 AM

The game everyone should be worried about is Chicago at Washington. What an awful game that will be, but I hope a star will be born for Chicago.

Old Dude · 09-10-2005, 10:14 AM

Nope. I'm not really concerned.

I'll be disappointed if we don't blow them out.

shakenbake · 09-10-2005, 10:15 AM

I hate playing the dolphins they always seem to play us tough. Plus its on the road. I always get nervous about the games we are "supposed" to win.

Bronx33 · 09-10-2005, 10:17 AM

Sure any team can beat any team any day but i have faith in my broncos getting the job done vs the fish,i see the denver D having a big game sunday vs fish OL which is rather average IMO and i wouldn't be suprised to see some points be put on the board by the D.Gus will be chased around like a 2 dollar hooker, but what really has me concerned weather meck and disco will be serving hot wings or brisket.....

Play2win · 09-10-2005, 10:21 AM

Well, if we don't dominate, it will be a real REALITY CHECK for this team.

Miami is not to far off from the boat San Fran is in. San Fran might actually get its head above the water this year, Miami looks to just be treading water...

gunns · 09-10-2005, 10:31 AM

Yes I'm worried. Reminds me of the Chicago game a couple of years ago when no one gave Chicago a chance, in Denver, and they came in and beat us.

Needa Pass Rush · 09-10-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

Well, if we don't dominate, it will be a real REALITY CHECK for this team.

Miami is not to far off from the boat San Fran is in. San Fran might actually get its head above the water this year, Miami looks to just be treading water...

I have apprehension because it is the first game of the season and nobody has witnessed any live bullets to really get a sense of any team. Just as the raiders hung tough with the pats early, we may see things in this game that we had hoped not to see. (knocking on wood)

That said, let's hope the team comes out ready to light up the scoreboard in So. Florida. This game is so much about attitude! They have to come out hungry! I have that same feeling about this team that I did prior to the SBowl vs Green Bay. That is to say, 'quietly optimistic' that we are working on something special. Don't forget to pray wearing your orange and blue glasses.

Enjoy the game! We are ALL ready for some (real) football!! (I'm also ready for a name change!!!) ~NPR

Needa Pass Rush · 09-10-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gunns

Yes I'm worried. Reminds me of the Chicago game a couple of years ago when no one gave Chicago a chance, in Denver, and they came in and beat us.

That's bad juju to bring that up.

We all remember that genre of game, don't we?

Rock Chalk · 09-10-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dude

Nope. I'm not really concerned.

I'll be disappointed if we don't blow them out.

Expect to be disappointed then Old Dude. Im not sold on our run defense, Im not sold on our pass rush, and Im not sold that Jake can keep the mistakes down.

I liked what I saw in pre-season, but the season is here and all my concerns are back at the top until they put them to rest.

Garcia Bronco · 09-10-2005, 10:35 AM

Miami isn't an easy win...wtf...anybody that thinks that is clueless. Add that we're playing them in Miami in September. I've seen 5 or 6 Miami openers on TV over the years and they always shown the thermostat.......105...110 degrees easy on the field. This ain't no easy win. Rain won't help us either

DarkHorse30 · 09-10-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Miami isn't an easy win...wtf...anybody that thinks that is clueless. Add that we're playing them in Miami in September. I've seen 5 or 6 Miami openers on TV over the years and they always shown the thermostat.......105...110 degrees easy on the field. This ain't no easy win. Rain won't help us either

agreed....especially since watching Wannstadt coach Pitt this year, you get an appreciation for how bad Wannstadt (and Turner for that manner) was as a head coach in the NFL. Saban has likely inherited a decent team that underperformed most of last year.....under a bad coach.

The best thing about this game is that there is no chance Denver overlooks their first opponent, like vs. Chicago or a few teams last year. Shanahan has a history of preparing his team for that first game. Also, Denver is under-rated so they'll be more pressed to prove themselves than they have been in the recent past.

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-10-2005, 11:08 AM

I'm concerned that Miami won't beat you.

Sassy · 09-10-2005, 11:08 AM

I think I read we are 10-2 in openers under Shanahan.

Breck Bronc · 09-10-2005, 11:16 AM

This is the same team we had difficulty beating at Invesco last December when the Dolphins had absolutely nothing to play for while we were fighting for our playoff lives.

Now we have to go and play in extreme heat and humidity that we're not used to and the Dolphins are.

The Broncos should win this game but I have my concerns about it.

Kaylore · 09-10-2005, 11:20 AM

I don't think it will be easy, but I think we'll win. I still say 20-10.

GreatBronco16 · 09-10-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Is anybody even remotely concerned about this game?

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rock Chalk · 09-10-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

I think I read we are 10-2 in openers under Shanahan.

We are, but I can only remember one of the losses. Against the Rams in their house like 4 or 5 years ago.

We are OH-fer in Miami though.

Breck Bronc · 09-10-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

We are, but I can only remember one of the losses. Against the Rams in their house like 4 or 5 years ago.

We are OH-fer in Miami though.

The other loss was against the Dolphins on MNF in Griese's first start.

ScottXray · 09-10-2005, 11:50 AM

I HOPE for a blowout...but I'm concerned also, and expect much less.

Our run defense was not good during pre-season and I expect a lot of sweeps...why not since we gave up about 5+ yds every time the opponent ran one? Hopefully the starters play the run better than the pre-season.

Bailey hasn't played a down this season and may be rusty...and the Miami receivers are pretty good. DWill is going to be a key in the nickle packages.
Lynch is a little too slow in coverage, and a mistake by the DBs may leave him exposed.

Key will be the pressure our D line brings to bear on Frerrotte. We have to be in his face and knocking him down, and do it with only 3 or 4 man rush. Since we'll be trying to bring the pressure. we'll get a lot of three wides, and maybe a lot of screens thrown at us. Our LBs will have to be ready for them

Miami is like 18-2 over the last 20 years in home openers. The humidity and heat there IS a factor. We have to maintain drives and keep the D rested or they will be able to hang with us....a bad thing in the 4th. We were a little spotty on maintaining drives in pre-season.

I hope Shanny has a great game plan because we need to get a lead and keep it up (offensive drives) the whole game. I think wer'e going to emphasize the run game to open up then use PA and rollouts when they try to contain that.

We must limit our turnovers to ONE or zero, and get at least TWO.
We have to avoid holding penaties (drive killers).

Overall, I think that we should win by seven to ten....but the line is 4. Bookies don't like to lose money. I think 24-17 is a likely score.

Rock Chalk · 09-10-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Breck Bronc

The other loss was against the Dolphins on MNF in Griese's first start.

Oh well thats ****ing great.

Rohirrim · 09-10-2005, 11:52 AM

From what I've read about the Dullfins Oline and what I've seen from the Broncos Dline, Darrent Williams, Foxworth, knowing that Champ is back, Coyer's secret plans (I'm confident) for the new trio of DJ, AL & Ian, the Dullfins lousy run defense against one of the top running attacks in the NFL, etc., no, I'm not too worried.

Rock Chalk · 09-10-2005, 11:52 AM

Thats the spirit Roh. Time to change history

09-10-2005, 10:01 AM	#1
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,850 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Is anybody even remotely concerned about this game? You know, I hate to be that guy who brings down the party. And I hate those people who are constantly negative too, with never a good thing to say about anything, so I'm gunna try and not be that. But... with that said, a lot of this talk reminds me of the year we let the Jagwads come in and beat us in the playoffs. Now granted, this isn't the playoffs, it's only the first game of the season. But, with that said, I don't think anybody is even remotely taking in a huge X factor that could be in play this Sunday: The fact that our Broncos chronically play down to the level of lesser opponents. The pre-season looked good, I know. But the Cardinals have gone undefeated before and not won 5 games all regular season. Like I said, I don't want to be negative. In fact, I'm excited for the season and possibilities with these guys. But at the same time, I think a lot is going to be proved this Sunday for this team. I just get this vibe that everybody is marking us down as 1-0 already, and even if they win, I think they still need to show some things.

09-10-2005, 10:35 AM	#13
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Miami isn't an easy win...wtf...anybody that thinks that is clueless. Add that we're playing them in Miami in September. I've seen 5 or 6 Miami openers on TV over the years and they always shown the thermostat.......105...110 degrees easy on the field. This ain't no easy win. Rain won't help us either Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 09-10-2005 at 10:47 AM..

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09-10-2005, 10:05 AM	#2
rbackfactory80 Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,628	I think this game is in no way a wash. This is an nfl team we are playing that should have a pretty tough defense. This game should be close and I expect us to win but not by much even though we don't have the best record at pro players stadium.

09-10-2005, 10:07 AM	#3
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,283	The mystery factor concerns me. If this game was anything but week 1, I wouldn't have any worries, but without having any idea how Saban plans on presenting this team, I admit a little aprehension. Just about everything points to a good Denver win, but I can't shake that little sliver of doubt.

09-10-2005, 10:11 AM	#4
labronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,015	The game everyone should be worried about is Chicago at Washington. What an awful game that will be, but I hope a star will be born for Chicago.

09-10-2005, 10:14 AM	#5
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,236	Nope. I'm not really concerned. I'll be disappointed if we don't blow them out.

09-10-2005, 10:15 AM	#6
shakenbake Texas Homer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shanghai, China Posts: 3,136	I hate playing the dolphins they always seem to play us tough. Plus its on the road. I always get nervous about the games we are "supposed" to win.

09-10-2005, 10:17 AM	#7
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Sure any team can beat any team any day but i have faith in my broncos getting the job done vs the fish,i see the denver D having a big game sunday vs fish OL which is rather average IMO and i wouldn't be suprised to see some points be put on the board by the D.Gus will be chased around like a 2 dollar hooker, but what really has me concerned weather meck and disco will be serving hot wings or brisket.....

09-10-2005, 10:21 AM	#8
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,611 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	Well, if we don't dominate, it will be a real REALITY CHECK for this team. Miami is not to far off from the boat San Fran is in. San Fran might actually get its head above the water this year, Miami looks to just be treading water...

09-10-2005, 10:31 AM	#9
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,745 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	Yes I'm worried. Reminds me of the Chicago game a couple of years ago when no one gave Chicago a chance, in Denver, and they came in and beat us.

09-10-2005, 11:08 AM	#15
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,931 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	I'm concerned that Miami won't beat you.

09-10-2005, 11:08 AM	#16
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I think I read we are 10-2 in openers under Shanahan.

09-10-2005, 11:16 AM	#17
Breck Bronc Roland Deschain The Gunslinger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,058	This is the same team we had difficulty beating at Invesco last December when the Dolphins had absolutely nothing to play for while we were fighting for our playoff lives. Now we have to go and play in extreme heat and humidity that we're not used to and the Dolphins are. The Broncos should win this game but I have my concerns about it.

09-10-2005, 11:20 AM	#18
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,343 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I don't think it will be easy, but I think we'll win. I still say 20-10.

09-10-2005, 11:50 AM	#22
ScottXray Opinionated A**** Love Me some PANCAKES!** Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: PDX (Portland OR) Posts: 4,670 Adopt-a-Bronco: J. D. Walton	I HOPE for a blowout...but I'm concerned also, and expect much less. Our run defense was not good during pre-season and I expect a lot of sweeps...why not since we gave up about 5+ yds every time the opponent ran one? Hopefully the starters play the run better than the pre-season. Bailey hasn't played a down this season and may be rusty...and the Miami receivers are pretty good. DWill is going to be a key in the nickle packages. Lynch is a little too slow in coverage, and a mistake by the DBs may leave him exposed. Key will be the pressure our D line brings to bear on Frerrotte. We have to be in his face and knocking him down, and do it with only 3 or 4 man rush. Since we'll be trying to bring the pressure. we'll get a lot of three wides, and maybe a lot of screens thrown at us. Our LBs will have to be ready for them Miami is like 18-2 over the last 20 years in home openers. The humidity and heat there IS a factor. We have to maintain drives and keep the D rested or they will be able to hang with us....a bad thing in the 4th. We were a little spotty on maintaining drives in pre-season. I hope Shanny has a great game plan because we need to get a lead and keep it up (offensive drives) the whole game. I think wer'e going to emphasize the run game to open up then use PA and rollouts when they try to contain that. We must limit our turnovers to ONE or zero, and get at least TWO. We have to avoid holding penaties (drive killers). Overall, I think that we should win by seven to ten....but the line is 4. Bookies don't like to lose money. I think 24-17 is a likely score.

09-10-2005, 11:52 AM	#24
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,113	From what I've read about the Dullfins Oline and what I've seen from the Broncos Dline, Darrent Williams, Foxworth, knowing that Champ is back, Coyer's secret plans (I'm confident) for the new trio of DJ, AL & Ian, the Dullfins lousy run defense against one of the top running attacks in the NFL, etc., no, I'm not too worried.

09-10-2005, 11:52 AM	#25
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,942 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Thats the spirit Roh. Time to change history