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Old 09-06-2005, 03:52 PM   #1
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NBC is reporting that tests on the water in New Orleans reveal bacteria levels at 45,000 times higher than what is safe. Microbiologist Paul Pearce says this will lead to numerous diseases, many of them infectious that will begin to show up in the next few weeks. With evacuees school children concentrated in huge areas together like the Houston Astrodom or Dallas Reunion Arena, we may be seeing a massive outbreak of public health problems now.
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NBC is reporting that tests on the water in New Orleans reveal bacteria levels at 45,000 times higher than what is safe. Microbiologist Paul Pearce says this will lead to numerous diseases, many of them infectious that will begin to show up in the next few weeks. With evacuees school children concentrated in huge areas together like the Houston Astrodom or Dallas Reunion Arena, we may be seeing a massive outbreak of public health problems now.
Appalling, but, given the following, not surprising...


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"Joe Albaugh was FEMA director in 2001. His only qualification was being Precious Leader's campaign manager. Allbaugh hires Michael Brown, his former college room mate, also unqualified for a FEMA job. Albaugh leaves to become a lobbyist for Halliburton and Brown becomes FEMA director. Halliburton hired to do storm clean at US naval bases. They don't even try to hide their crimes any more."

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Where were you labf? Get real....man. I understand you don,t support the war in Iraq so that is one of the reasons you are not there, but, if you care so much about NO and the people, then why are you not there now, helping out? Don't this sound awful familiar, I can recall you riding someone here on the mane that if he believes in the war and our President so much he should drop everything and go to Iraq now, if not with the military then with Haliburton. If you really cared you would have been there the day before and enlightened everyone down there, but, why aren't you there now? No excuses, Now!
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Where were you labf? Get real....man. I understand you don,t support the war in Iraq so that is one of the reasons you are not there
Other reasons I'm not in Iraq:

1) I'm too old.

2) I already served in the military - how about you?

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but, if you care so much about NO and the people, then why are you not there now, helping out? Don't this sound awful familiar, I can recall you riding someone here on the mane that if he believes in the war and our President so much he should drop everything and go to Iraq now, if not with the military then with Haliburton. If you really cared you would have been there the day before and enlightened everyone down there, but, why aren't you there now? No excuses, Now!
Why aren't YOU there helping out?

After all, the failures of the administration you're backing are responsible for a large part of the unnecessary death and destruction.

You have absolutely NO basis for self-righteousness here - just the opposite is the case: You should be hanging your head in shame for supporting such a criminal and inept administration.
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Wow he did it again. Amazing how you can turn every thread into an anti-Bush thread. Can We not have a mature conversation?
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Wow he did it again. Amazing how you can turn every thread into an anti-Bush thread. Can We not have a mature conversation?
Right-winger-to-English Translation:

"Mature conversation" = "don't criticize Bush or Republicans."
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What you said has nothing to do with the water. Oh wait, Bush polluted it right?
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Whay's scary is these poor people are being moved throught the country. Hope they treat them.
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What you said has nothing to do with the water. Oh wait, Bush polluted it right?
Right on cue:

You're still giving Bush a pass for his failure to do anything to prevent the sort of disaster that resulted in contaminated water.
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What you said has nothing to do with the water. Oh wait, Bush polluted it right?
I wont say Bush polluted it , but he sure did take his time doing somthing about it
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Just like 9/11, Bush was warned and did NOTHING.
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Water L.A. were talking water. Keep on the subject. Yes, Bush acted slow. I agree. I also think the Mayor and Governor need "to be held accountable" also. The mayor sent out a flier stating it was up to the residents to get out of the city. He had busses. Could have got more people out. At least tried. The Governor was asked if she needed help. She wanted 24 hours to think about it. This was on Wednesday. FEMA sat on there hands. Bush should have taken control sooner. Plenty of blame to spread around. But this thread was addressing the polluted water. How did we start talking about blame? Oh now i remember. The infamous liberal hijacker.
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Water L.A. were talking water. Keep on the subject. Yes, Bush acted slow. I agree. I also think the Mayor and Governor need "to be held accountable" also. The mayor sent out a flier stating it was up to the residents to get out of the city. He had busses. Could have got more people out. At least tried. The Governor was asked if she needed help. She wanted 24 hours to think about it. This was on Wednesday. FEMA sat on there hands. Bush should have taken control sooner. Plenty of blame to spread around. But this thread was addressing the polluted water.
Sounds like you're still suffering from a bad case of selective attention.

Warnings went ignored as Bush slashed flood defense budget to pay for wars 9/6

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...icle310195.ece

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How did we start talking about blame? Oh now i remember. The infamous liberal hijacker.
Right-winger-to-English-Translation:

"Let's not point fingers (because we know who those fingers are pointing to.")
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Wow he did it again. Amazing how you can turn every thread into an anti-Bush thread. Can We not have a mature conversation?
It's getting old. Taco just needs to rename this place the LABF forum.
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It's getting old. Taco just needs to rename this place the LABF forum.
Probably not a good idea - the dozens of other forum members who share my views might feel slighted or left out.

As more and more Americans wake up to the realization that Bush is incompetent, criminal, and dangerous, expect folks like Meck to call in an airstrike on their own perimeter as a last recourse.
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Im sure I caught it from you.
So this is why the mayor didn't efficiently evacuate the city. Why the governor didn't ask for federal help?


No, I'm asking a legitimate question. What does this have to do with the water that is threatening the health of those people. Keep on subject will you.
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Probably not a good idea - the dozens of other forum members who share my views might feel slighted or left out.

As more and more Americans wake up to the realization that Bush is incompetent, criminal, and dangerous, expect folks like Meck to call in an airstrike on their own perimeter as a last recourse.
I'm sure they already feel left out.
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No, I'm asking a legitimate question. What does this have to do with the water that is threatening the health of those people.
That you would suggest that accountability for a president whose inaction and whose deliberate elimination of resources designated for the protection of those waters is somehow not relevent to the topic at hand is simply stupifying.

Let's just ignore Bush's handling of the situation so it can happen again.

That's intelligent.
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That you would suggest that accountability for a president whose inaction and whose deliberate elimination of resources designated for the protection of those waters is somehow not relevent to the topic at hand is simply stupifying.

Let's just ignore Bush's handling of the situation so it can happen again.

That's intelligent.
I did blame bush. Can't you read? Spread the love around. Everyone messed up. You are so into holding people accountable.
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So this is why the mayor didn't efficiently evacuate the city. Why the governor didn't ask for federal help?
Not only did Governor Blanco ask for help, she filed an official request directly to the President two days before the Hurricane struck. On top of that she asked the Fed to waive the normal 25% expected contribution to the effort from the state and stated specifically that this storm was likely to create problems beyond the state of Louisiana's ability to respond and requested a 100% federal participation committment. This has been stated and proven at least twice on the Hurricane thread with a link to the government documents in question.
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And this has what to do with the first post?
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Not only did Governor Blanco ask for help, she filed an official request directly to the President two days before the Hurricane struck. On top of that she asked the Fed to waive the normal 25% expected contribution to the effort from the state and stated specifically that this storm was likely to create problems beyond the state of Louisiana's ability to respond and requested a 100% federal participation committment. This has been stated and proven at least twice on the Hurricane thread with a link to the government documents in question.
But if you can remember let me know which thread that was so I can educate myself. Thanks.
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Not only did Governor Blanco ask for help, she filed an official request directly to the President two days before the Hurricane struck. On top of that she asked the Fed to waive the normal 25% expected contribution to the effort from the state and stated specifically that this storm was likely to create problems beyond the state of Louisiana's ability to respond and requested a 100% federal participation committment. This has been stated and proven at least twice on the Hurricane thread with a link to the government documents in question.
More inconvenient facts for ant1999e to ignore in his efforts to cover Bush's flank.
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But if you can remember let me know which thread that was so I can educate myself. Thanks.
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Blanco’s letter requesting Emergency aid under the Stafford Act, August 27th:

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/articles.aspx?aid=4843

President Bush legally puts the ball in Chertoff and Howard’s court, August 27th:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...20050827-1.htm

Which means, as of August 27th, it was all Homeland Security/FEMA, all the way to the bank:

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In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. The new Department will also prioritize the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America's families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special attention at DHS.

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/theme_home2.jsp

The only caveat that DHS gives on their website and in the 'National Response Plan of December, 2004' is that, (the Governor) 'Requests Federal assistance when it becomes clear that State or tribal capabilities will be insufficient or have been exceeded or exhausted.'

Blanco did her part under the Stafford Act. She even followed up on Sunday the 28th asking the President to expedite because Katrina went Category V for a while, and Cheney-all was happening on the DHS end.

DHS/FEMA was briefed about the catastrophic conditions well before landfall.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ayfield05.html

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