Is anyone seriously scared of the Raiders? - The Orange Mane

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-31-2005, 04:49 PM

Yes, they got some nice shiny toys for the offense.

But Norv Turner is still their head coach and Chiefs fans know how well keeping the same players and changing the scheme works for fixing a defense.

Meck77 · 08-31-2005, 04:51 PM

No...We already went over this with Raiders Rock last week. Nobody here fears the Raiders. Only fear around here is RR fearing the Broncos.

SoCalBronco · 08-31-2005, 04:53 PM

Yes. They are a real threat. I have been impressed by their first stringers this preseason. Young but very talented line with Gallery, Grove and Walker. Skill positions are very strong. Collins has looked really good so far. Defense still quite problematic on each of the three levels but not as awful as people think. LBs are gonna really struggle though. Overall, it is a team to be reckoned with.

Meck77 · 08-31-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Yes.

huh? You really fear the Raiders SoCal?

SoCalBronco · 08-31-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Meck77

huh? You really fear the Raiders SoCal?

As I expanded on my point above, their offense will cause great problems even for good defensive teams like us. And if they play more 4-3 this year and reorganize their parts a little better rather than forcing guys like Brayton to be a LB, the defense wont be god awful. It will be still be below average to be certain but not dead last or anything. Maybe around the early 20s.

Ballhawk · 08-31-2005, 05:03 PM

I have a healthy respect for all Division rivals. It is very hard to win a division game on the road, but fear...no. We will be the best team but that doesn't always = Win.

SoCalBronco · 08-31-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ballhawk

I have a healthy respect for all Division rivals. It is very hard to win a division game on the road, but fear...no. We will be the best team but that doesn't always = Win.

I think pretty much all four teams are equal this year.

Ballhawk · 08-31-2005, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I think pretty much all four teams are equal this year.

You are just playing it cool. Did you get the BAR results yet?

Hogan11 · 08-31-2005, 05:08 PM

F' The Raiders....enough said.

SoCalBronco · 08-31-2005, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ballhawk

You are just playing it cool. Did you get the BAR results yet?

nope

Meck77 · 08-31-2005, 05:24 PM

ok so we have some people who fear the raiders and 8 votes for no...something doesn't add up.

I agree Hogan **** the Raiders. They are still a below .500 team until they prove otherwise. No fear here.

I give them 8 wins @ best.

Bronco9798 · 08-31-2005, 05:32 PM

It doesn't matter if you fear them. It's how you play them that day. We're a better team, but that don't mean squat if you don't show up that day.

Bronco LB 59 · 08-31-2005, 05:33 PM

Here's the number one reason why I don't fear the scumbag Raiders:

8 seasons as NFL head coach, 1 postseason appearance

OrangeShadow · 08-31-2005, 06:30 PM

Yeah their defense puts the fear of god into me.....

rofl its hard typing that with a straight face

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-31-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I think pretty much all four teams are equal this year.

Bah, that's ridiculous. The Raiders are clearly the losers of the 4.

Everyone in the division has an offense. Denver and SD have good defenses, and KC should be at least average this year on D.

Oakland did almost nothing to improve theirs.

OrangeShadow · 08-31-2005, 07:37 PM

almost? they did NOTHING. so they drafted a rookie corner big deal. id be shocked if their D wasnt last in the league

Ratboy · 08-31-2005, 07:40 PM

PatsWin2002 · 08-31-2005, 07:40 PM

I believe Meck bought this on Ebay:

But it would make a great avatar for someone here.

Rohirrim · 08-31-2005, 07:44 PM

I ain't afraid of nobody!

Bronx33 · 08-31-2005, 07:46 PM

Fear this.......

Raider Bill · 08-31-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Bah, that's ridiculous. The Raiders are clearly the losers of the 4.

Everyone in the division has an offense. Denver and SD have good defenses, and KC should be at least average this year on D.

Oakland did almost nothing to improve theirs.

We didnt make the sexy moves that KC did, but to say we did nothing is ridiculous.

T Ed Jasper/ex-Falcon, June 27; LB Jay Foreman/ex-Texan, May 12; UFA CB Renaldo Hill/ex-Cardinal, April 11 (one year); UFA DT Kenny Smith/ex-Saint, March 31; UFA DE Derrick Burgess/ex-Eagle, March 12 (five years, $17.5 million); UFA RB LaMont Jordan/ex-Jet, March 3 (five years, $27.5 million, $11 million guaranteed); WR Randy Moss/ex-Viking, March 2 (acquired from Minnesota in exchange for LB Napoleon Harris, the seventh overall pick in the 2005 draft and

KC's defense couldnt keep one of the leagues best offenses in the game. Our defense had to contend with the worst TOP, the worst rushing attack and a middle of the pack scoring offense. Hell, we were in both of those KC games with all this working against us. Those factors all figure to improve.

No1BroncoFan · 08-31-2005, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

I believe Meck bought this on Ebay:

But it would make a great avatar for someone here.

I hereby nominate this as RR's new avatar.

TJ, please make it so!

Ben

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-31-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by njbil

KC's defense couldnt keep one of the leagues best offenses in the game.

Wrong again. The Chiefs were in every game. In some cases the defense kept the offense in the game.

Meanwhile the Raiders lost by double digits FIVE TIMES. FOUR of those were complete blowouts.

And I said you did ALMOST nothing. Signing a few bit players qualifies.

Raider Bill · 08-31-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Wrong again. The Chiefs were in every game. In some cases the defense kept the offense in the game.

Meanwhile the Raiders lost by double digits FIVE TIMES. FOUR of those were complete blowouts.

None at the hands of Kansas ****ty though!

It's not like our starting quarterback went down or anything.

We lost 6 games by 7 or less.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-31-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by njbil

None at the hands of Kansas ****ty though!

It's not like our starting quarterback went down or anything.

And you're stuck with the same QB. Does that mean another losing season?

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Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,931 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Is anyone seriously scared of the Raiders? Yes, they got some nice shiny toys for the offense. But Norv Turner is still their head coach and Chiefs fans know how well keeping the same players and changing the scheme works for fixing a defense.

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SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Yes. They are a real threat. I have been impressed by their first stringers this preseason. Young but very talented line with Gallery, Grove and Walker. Skill positions are very strong. Collins has looked really good so far. Defense still quite problematic on each of the three levels but not as awful as people think. LBs are gonna really struggle though. Overall, it is a team to be reckoned with. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH! Last edited by SoCalBronco; 08-31-2005 at 04:56 PM..

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08-31-2005, 04:51 PM	#2
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,324	No...We already went over this with Raiders Rock last week. Nobody here fears the Raiders. Only fear around here is RR fearing the Broncos.

08-31-2005, 05:03 PM	#6
Ballhawk Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,132	I have a healthy respect for all Division rivals. It is very hard to win a division game on the road, but fear...no. We will be the best team but that doesn't always = Win.

08-31-2005, 05:08 PM	#9
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	F' The Raiders....enough said.

08-31-2005, 05:24 PM	#11
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,324	ok so we have some people who fear the raiders and 8 votes for no...something doesn't add up. I agree Hogan **** the Raiders. They are still a below .500 team until they prove otherwise. No fear here. I give them 8 wins @ best.

08-31-2005, 05:32 PM	#12
Bronco9798 Two Time World Champions Boom Goes The Dynamite Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a Van Down By the River Posts: 2,353 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	It doesn't matter if you fear them. It's how you play them that day. We're a better team, but that don't mean squat if you don't show up that day.

08-31-2005, 05:33 PM	#13
Bronco LB 59 Ring of Famer Keep your head up dog Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Leucadia CA Posts: 6,068	Here's the number one reason why I don't fear the scumbag Raiders: 8 seasons as NFL head coach, 1 postseason appearance

08-31-2005, 06:30 PM	#14
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	Yeah their defense puts the fear of god into me..... rofl its hard typing that with a straight face

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OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	almost? they did NOTHING. so they drafted a rookie corner big deal. id be shocked if their D wasnt last in the league

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Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,103	I ain't afraid of nobody!

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Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Fear this.......

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