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Old 08-27-2005, 05:33 AM   #1
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Denver Broncos 2005 Season Preview
By Tony Moss, NFL Editor

(Sports Network) - Someone needs to direct Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan, general manager Ted Sundquist, and owner Pat Bowlen to a craps table.

Apparently, these guys like to gamble.

The Broncos' offseason was littered with risky personnel moves that had longtime fans of the franchise and NFL pundits alike scratching their heads.

Offensively, the team traded Reuben Droughns, the second time in as many years they had dealt a rusher coming off a 1,000-yard season. Mike Shanahan left his running game in the hands of the following players: Mike Anderson and Quentin Griffin, both of whom come off injuries that derailed them in 2004; second- year man Tatum Bell, who has 75 career attempts; former Giants failure Ron Dayne, who has averaged 3.5 yards per rush over his five-year career; and former Ohio State problem child Maurice Clarett, whose 40-time had to be clocked on a calendar at the NFL combine and who last carried a football in a meaningful situation during the 2002 season as a Buckeye.

Elsewhere on offense, Denver failed to grab the game-breaking wideout that most felt it needed via either the draft or free agency, but did welcome in 42-year-old Jerry Rice, who will be playing for his third team in two years.

On the other side of the ball, things got really weird.

The Broncos hired former Browns defensive line coach Andre Patterson, then decided to bring in all of his former students to ease the coach's transition to the Mile High City. Denver obtained ends Courtney Brown, Ebenezer Ekuban and tackles Michael Myers and Gerard Warren from a Cleveland team that went 4-12 a year ago.

In the secondary, Denver let starting cornerback Kelly Herndon and safety Kenoy Kennedy slip away, but used its first three picks of the 2005 draft on three less-than-elite college cornerbacks - Darrent Williams, Karl Paymah, Domonique Foxworth - and in training camp plucked Raiders castoff Marques Anderson to get into the safety mix.

If a majority of the moves pay off and the Broncos win their first playoff game since the retirement of John Elway, the joke will be on those of us who dare question the seemingly strange assembly of the 2005 roster. But if the naysayers are right, and things go poorly, a sea of orange-and-blue clad patrons at Invesco Field will have their fingers pointed directly at Shanahan, Sundquist, and Bowlen.

Below we take a capsule look at the 2005 edition of the Denver Broncos, with a personnel evaluation and prognosis included therein:

2004 RECORD: 10-6 (2nd, AFC West)

LAST PLAYOFF APPEARANCE: 2004, lost to Indianapolis, 49-24, in AFC Wild Card Game

COACH (RECORD): Mike Shanahan (101-59 in 10 seasons with Broncos, 109-71 overall)

OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR: Gary Kubiak

DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR: Larry Coyer

OFFENSIVE STAR: Jake Plummer, QB (4089 passing yards, 27 TD, 20 INT)

DEFENSIVE STAR: Champ Bailey, CB (81 tackles, 3 INT)

OFFENSIVE TEAM RANKS: 4th rushing, 6th passing, 9th scoring

DEFENSIVE TEAM RANKS: 4th rushing, 6th passing, t9th scoring

FIVE KEY GAMES: San Diego (9/18), Kansas City (9/26), New England (10/16), at Oakland (11/13), Baltimore (12/11)

KEY ADDITIONS: RB Ron Dayne (from Giants), RB Maurice Clarett (3rd Round, Ohio State), WR Jerry Rice (Seahawks), TE Stephen Alexander (Lions), G Cameron Spikes (Cardinals), T Anthony Clement (Cardinals), DE John Engelberger (49ers), DE Ebenezer Ekuban (Browns), DE Courtney Brown (Browns), DT Michael Myers (Browns), DT Gerard Warren (Browns), LB Keith Burns (Buccaneers), LB Ian Gold (Buccaneers), CB Darrent Williams (2nd Round, Oklahoma State), CB Karl Paymah (3rd Round, Washington State), CB Domonique Foxworth (3rd Round, Maryland), P Todd Sauerbrun (Panthers)

KEY DEPARTURES: RB Reuben Droughns (to Browns), RB Garrison Hearst (not tendered), G Dan Neil (released), DE Reggie Hayward (to Jaguars), NT Ellis Johnson (not tendered), LB Donnie Spragan (to Dolphins), S Kenoy Kennedy (to Lions), CB Kelly Herndon (to Seahawks), CB Willie Middlebrooks (to 49ers), P Jason Baker (to Panthers)

QB: Jake Plummer (4089 passing yards, 27 TD, 20 INT) posted career highs in yards and touchdowns a year ago, but his 20 interceptions were tied for the NFL lead and he antagonized Broncos fans with an obscene gesture in a late- season win over the Dolphins. In the interests of his own self-preservation, Plummer needs to cut down on the mistakes this year. The team appears set to cut ties with Danny Kanell, who has been the backup for the past two seasons but has a 49.1 passer rating as a Bronco. Either Bradlee Van Pelt, a Colorado State alumnus, or Matt Mauck, who spent time with Van Pelt on the practice squad last year, will have to step up and win the job from Kanell.

RB: The Broncos allowed 2004 surprise Reuben Droughns (1240 rushing yards, 32 receptions, 8 TD) to go the way of Clinton Portis before him, trading Droughns to the Browns for defensive linemen Ebenezer Ekuban and Michael Myers in late March. It stood to reason that the team would promote second-year man Tatum Bell (396 rushing yards, 3 TD) into Droughns' former spot following a solid rookie year, but instead Denver handed the job back to former 1,000-yard rusher Mike Anderson. The 31-year-old Anderson missed all of last season with a groin injury, and hasn't posted a 100-yard rushing game since 2001. Quentin Griffin (311 rushing yards, 10 receptions, 3 TD) struggled after being ordained the starter in the 2004 preseason, and missed the final 10 games with a knee injury. Griffin also missed the first half of the 2005 preseason while recovering from the injury. The Broncos took a chance on 1999 Heisman Trophy winner Ron Dayne (179 rushing yards, 1 TD with the Giants), who has never developed into a productive NFL running back but looked good early in the preseason. Third-round draft choice Maurice Clarett (Ohio State) battled injuries early in training camp and projects as a special-teamer until he gets back into proper game condition. With the glut of running backs, Denver probably only has room for one running back, and Kyle Johnson (9 receptions, 2 TD) will be the No. 1 guy there.

WR/TE: Though the Broncos' receiving corps has been criticized for lacking a big-play threat, Rod Smith (79 receptions, 7 TD) and Ashley Lelie (54 receptions, 7 TD) were both consistent enough to post 1,000-yard seasons in 2004. The emergence of Lelie, who led the league with a 20.1 average per reception, was particularly heartening to a team that had watched him underachieve in his first two years in the league. Jerry Rice (30 receptions, 429 yards, 3 TD with the Raiders and Seahawks) is determined to prove he has something left in the tank, but will turn 43 just prior to Week 6. Holdovers Darius Watts (31 receptions, 1 TD) and Charlie Adams should make the roster, meaning Triandos Luke (6 receptions) could be on his way out. At tight end, the club brought in Stephen Alexander (41 receptions, 1 TD with Detroit) to start, and holdovers Jeb Putzier (36 receptions, 2 TD) and Nate Jackson (8 receptions) should play prominent roles as backups.

OL: The Denver line has long been considered a team strength, and most of last year's unit returns in 2005. Left tackle Matt Lepsis, left guard Ben Hamilton, center Tim Nalen, and right tackle George Foster are all back after starting 16 games together a year ago. The biggest change is at right guard, where Cooper Carlisle, who started the final four games of 2004, takes over full- time for the departed Dan Neil. Tackle Anthony Clement and guard Cameron Spikes, both of whom started games for the Cardinals last year, are looking to catch on as backups. Dwayne Carswell, who has caught 190 passes in 11 seasons as a tight end at Denver, has been moved full-time to guard, and should make the roster. Sixth-round draft choice and guard Chris Myers (Miami (FL)) appears headed to the practice squad.

DL: There will be a great deal of focus on the situation here, as 75 percent of the Browns' 2004 opening day d-line will make the transition to Denver. End Courtney Brown (2 tackles with Cleveland), who missed the final 14 games of '04 with a foot injury, will start at left end opposite holdover Trevor Pryce (2 tackles). Pryce missed 14 games with a herniated disc in his lower back last season. The other two former Cleveland players in the starting lineup will be interior linemen Gerard Warren (19 tackles, 4 sacks with Cleveland) and Michael Myers (34 tackles, 1 sack). The fourth Brown, Ebenezer Ekuban (39 tackles, 8 sacks with Cleveland) is projected as a backup to Courtney Brown at left end. Former 49er John Engelberger (45 tackles, 6 sacks with San Francisco), obtained in a trade in mid-July, will be an insurance policy should Pryce go down again on the right side. Monsanto Pope (24 tackles, 1 sack) and Mario Fatafehi (20 tackles, 2.5 sacks), both of whom were starters last season, will now serve as backups at tackle. Holdovers Dorsett Davis, Anton Palepoi (19 tackles, 3 sacks), Luther Elliss (7 tackles) and Raylee Johnson (12 tackles, 1 sack) will struggle to make the roster.

LB: The lone defector on last year's starting linebacker unit is strong side man Donnie Spragan (67 tackles, 1 sack), who signed a free agent deal with the Dolphins. Back to assume his former weak side spot after a one-year stint in Tampa Bay is Ian Gold (71 tackles, 1 INT with the Buccaneers), who was released by the Bucs in March. Shifting from the weak side to the strong side is second-year man D.J. Williams (114 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT), who was impressive as a rookie. Back to patrol the middle is Al Wilson (104 tackles, 2.5 sacks, 2 INT), who will start for a seventh straight year in Denver. The primary backups will be youngsters Patrick Chukwurah (9 tackles, 1 sack) and Terry Pierce (5 tackles), with veteran Keith Burns returning after one season with Tampa Bay to anchor the special teams unit. Former starter Jashon Sykes will stick around if the team keeps seven linebackers.

DB: The Broncos made noise in the 2004 offseason by acquiring cornerback Champ Bailey (81 tackles, 3 INT) and free safety John Lynch (64 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT), and those two players are the only ones left from last year's starting unit. Strong safety Kenoy Kennedy (87 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT) is now a Lion, which moves Nick Ferguson (34 tackles) back into the starting lineup he was a part of during most of 2003. Kelly Herndon (87 tackles, 2 INT) defected to the Seahawks, prompting the club to move second-year man Lenny Walls (22 tackles) into the starting slot there. The three rookies - Darrent Williams (2nd Round, Oklahoma State), Karl Paymah (3rd Round, Washington State), and Domonique Foxworth (3rd Round, Maryland) - will lie in wait in the event of an injury to or inconsistency from one of the starters. Jeremy LeSueur, a third-round draft choice in 2004 who missed all of last season with a hernia, will be a backup at safety. Sam Brandon (10 tackles) and training camp acquisition Marques Anderson (72 tackles, 1 INT with Oakland) will push for time there as well. Roc Alexander (18 tackles), who started one game as a rookie last season, could be a victim of the final cut.

SPECIAL TEAMS: Kicker Jason Elam (29-34 FG, 42-42 XP) shows no signs of slowing down at the age of 35, but hasn't kicked off since 2002. Rookie Paul Ernster (7th Round, Northern Arizona) has been brought in to fill that role this season. The team has a new punter in Todd Sauerbrun (44.1 avg. with the Panthers), a three-time Pro Bowler with a big leg who has been troubled off the field throughout his career. Rookie Darrent Williams had three punt returns for touchdowns while at Oklahoma State, and will be given an opportunity to win that job. Williams and Triandos Luke (20.4 kickoff return avg.) are probably the top candidates to bring back kickoffs, provided Luke makes the team.

PROGNOSIS: Denver has made a host of changes to its roster, which doesn't mean the club has upgraded its talent level. In fact, the Broncos look a tad weaker in the backfield, on the defensive line, and in the secondary, which doesn't bode well in a division that looks vastly improved across the board. Why the organization brass thinks it can squeeze production out of disappointments like Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Ron Dayne, and Maurice Clarett is apparent only to them. The Broncos have enough talent to ensure that they won't be a train wreck, but expecting this club to reach the playoffs after its rolleroaster of offseason personnel activity seems a stretch. In fact, Denver's first losing record since 1999 could well be imminent.


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This whole article pisses me off. The worst is the writer questioning Denver on trading Reuben Droughns. Haven't we proven ourselves enough in the run game over the last 10 years to stop people from questioning any running back moves we make??
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This whole article pisses me off. The worst is the writer questioning Denver on trading Reuben Droughns. Haven't we proven ourselves enough in the run game over the last 10 years to stop people from questioning any running back moves we make??
With the recent situation with Maurice, it would seem that he is probably right. I mean, which one would you rather have right now? Clarrett, or Droughns?
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He makes some good points, but a lot of his conclusions seem like pre-conceived notions from his beliefs before he sat down and actually analyzed the team.

"Most" did not feel Denver had to go out and get a game-breaking WR. That's a nice straw man though. Maybe someone to become more of a 3rd WR threat (Rice, expected progression of Watts in his 2nd season), but no one thought a new starter was needed.

Anyone who thinks Denver's DL is a tad weaker, truly did not do their research to see who was on the line last year because that line was terrible.

Dayne became the NCAA's all-time leading rusher in a rushing system like Denver's. Little research there would allow the writer to realize why the Broncos went after him.

Vastly improved division across the board? Bolts made no moves and their "vast" improvement is supposed to come from 2 1st round picks. Raiders acquired Moss and Jordan, and let their defense slip even further. Hard to say that the Raiders vastly improved when they're probably going to be giving up around 30 points a game. Chiefs are about the only team that can be said definitely improved over last season, but it still remains to be seen whether the adjective "vast" can be used to describe it.

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With the recent situation with Maurice, it would seem that he is probably right. I mean, which one would you rather have right now? Clarrett, or Droughns?
I mean who would you rather have, Portis or Anderson, Bell, Q, and Droughns?

Guess that one worked out. Anyone questioning a Denver move at RB is desperate for an issue with this team. Shanahan has the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise with his RB moves.
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He makes some good points, but a lot of his conclusions seem like pre-conceived notions from his beliefs before he sat down and actually analyzed the team.

"Most" did not feel Denver had to go out and get a game-breaking WR. That's a nice straw man though. Maybe someone to become move of a 3rd WR threat (Rice, expected progression of Watts in his 2nd season), but no one thought a new starter was needed.

Anyone who thinks Denver's DL is a tad weaker, truly did not do their research to see who was on the line last year because that line was terrible.

Dayne became the NCAA's all-time leading rusher in a rushing system like Denver's. Little research there would allow the writer to realize why the Broncos went after him.

Vastly improved division across the board? Bolts made no moves and their "vast" improvement is supposed to come from 2 1st round picks. Raiders acquired Moss and Jordan, and let their defense slip even further. Hard to say that the Raiders vastly improved when they're probably going to be giving up around 30 points a game. Chiefs are about the only team that can be said definitely improved over last season, but it still remains to be seen whether the adjective "vast" can be used to describe it.
So....what were the good points?
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I mean who would you rather have, Portis or Anderson, Bell, Q, and Droughns?

Guess that one worked out. Anyone questioning a Denver move at RB is desperate for an issue with this team. Shanahan has the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise with his RB moves.
Yeah, I guess no one has the right to question Maurice Clarrett over Droughns.

Unless Clarrett get's cut, of course.

To answer your question, Portis. What's your point?

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No he doesnt get it , not even close ... Every Game breaking wide out enjoys the same thing , a T.E. that controls the hash marks ....take Drew Brees in Charger land , Did Brees all of the sudden get it ? or did having a TE like Antonio Gates help ?
on offense , you have to control the Hashmarks ....... Defense , everything Depends on the Dline and the safty ( or who ever is making the secondary calls ) you are only as good as the pressure you get .....
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So....what were the good points?
His regurgitation of the stats in his unit-by-unit stuff wasn't bad
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Great analysis for a copy and paste article. OL HAS Depth Reuben Droughns the starting Fullback a year ago gets traded and that's a LOSS The DL is weaker with Five more talented players to work With Herndon leaves PROMPTING Walls to be the starter No Big Play threat at WR when We had 20 30+ yd plays and 10 TD's from over thirty yards

Now I understand the crap you put out here if you take this seriously. Look at all the Key acquisitions of the PATS the last four years. They got players that upgraded their talent level and could play THEIR schemes. NOT one Marquee FA. Finally the FO, stopped swinging for the fences with hit and MISS big names like Gardener and found talent in five DL for the price of a backup RB/FB, a fourth round draft pick, and a system RDE.

Keep trying crazyhorse and one day you may actually have a point.

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He also says Anderson has not had a 100 yard rushing game since 2001. This, of course, is untrue. Anderson broke the 100 yard mark in a single half in last years preseason game against the Seahawks. Now, if he said regular season game, he'd be right.

Anyways, poorly written overall, with a fair share of grammatical errors.
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Every Game breaking wide out enjoys the same thing , a T.E. that controls the hash marks
What a load of crap. T.O. doesn't have one in Philly, and didn't have one in San Francisco.

Moss? You could make a case for Wiggins, but not really, and they didn't play together that long.

Anyway, his point IS bull****. The Donks are fine at WR.
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Great analysis for a copy and paste article. OL HAS Depth Reuben Droughns the starting Fullback a year ago gets traded and that's a LOSS The DL is weaker with Five more talented players to work With Herndon leaves PROMPTING Walls to be the starter No Big Play threat at WR when We had 20 30+ yd plays and 10 TD's from over thirty yards

Now I understand the crap you put out here if you take this seriously. Look at all the Key acquisitions of the PATS the last four years. They got players that upgraded their talent level and could play THEIR schemes. NOT one Marquee FA. Finally the FO, stopped swinging for the fences with hit and MISS big names like Gardener and found talent in five DL for the price of a backup RB/FB, a fourth round draft pick, and a system RDE.

Keep trying crazyhorse and one day you may actually have a point.
I didn't write it. But it isn't hard to see that it touched a nerve. Why is that?
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He also says Anderson has not had a 100 yard rushing game since 2001. This, of course, is untrue. Anderson broke the 100 yard mark in a single half in last years preseason game against the Seahawks. Now, if he said regular season game, he'd be right.

Anyways, poorly written overall, with a fair share of grammatical errors.
This post is hilarious.

How was the spelling, and punctuasion.
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What a load of crap. T.O. doesn't have one in Philly, and didn't have one in San Francisco.

Moss? You could make a case for Wiggins, but not really, and they didn't play together that long.
I see , and there is a time table on this combo ? what is it a year ? 2 ? 5 years before it works ?
what does game breaking mean to you ?
then we have to agree on what makes a TE good ?
Catching ? Blocking ? combination of the 2 ?
L.J. Smith TE for the Eagles , Seems to be doing somthing right .......
Now TO had a poor TE in ninerland , and well we all saw how well the niners did
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This post is hilarious.

How was the spelling, and punctuasion.

Not quite as bad as yours, but you're doing it for free.
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Denver Broncos 2005 Season Preview
By Tony Moss, NFL Editor

(Sports Network) - Someone needs to direct Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan, general manager Ted Sundquist, and owner Pat Bowlen to a craps table.

Apparently, these guys like to gamble. . . . expecting this club to reach the playoffs after its rolleroaster of offseason personnel activity seems a stretch. In fact, Denver's first losing record since 1999 could well be imminent.

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LOSING RECORD?! In what parallel universe is this even an 8-8 team?!

Idiots.

Why do all these pundits keep acting like losing Droughns was some sort of "crippling blow"?! And for that matter, why do they think the Clarett pick meant the team was somehow "banking on him to produce." He's the poster-child for the Practice Squad - out of ball 2 years, but maybe an upside. He was NEVER going to play! HELLO?

LISTEN UP, NATIONAL NFL PUND-IDIOTS! - CLARETT WAS A FLYER PICK!! ... taken w/ a surprise compensatory pick they didn't think they'd get! (The Clarett and I think Paymah(?) picks were for Bertrand Berry (sob), and Ian Gold! . . .tee hee . . . )

Well, these idiots might just motivate . . . maybe?

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I didn't write it. But it isn't hard to see that it touched a nerve. Why is that?
Because someone got paid to do that article and they took five minutes to research it.
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I think you are right ....... We should pull a Chief and bring in Gunther and proclaim him the savior ....... Denver media wont have much to piss and moan about after that move
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Because someone got paid to do that article and they took five minutes to research it.
When researching it, he probably just read every other article written about the Broncos tis off season. I think he's probably just picking on you guiys. The whole world just hates you.
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I think you are right ....... We should pull a Chief and bring in Gunther and proclaim him the savior ....... Denver media wont have much to piss and moan about after that move


Nah, they would still hate you and write mean, nasty things.
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