Cindy Sheehan

[Traveler]

I have some questions.

Why won't the President talk with her privately? He can talk tough with "the terrorists" but can't take the time to talk privately with someone he works for? Why is he not scared of the terrorists but scared of her?

Now before I get all the he'll be setting a precedent if he does replies, just ask yourself one question. What's the downside if he does?

I don't plan are debating anyone on this subject. Just want other points of view.

[elsid13]

It the same reason the Rummy was using a signature machine to sign to letters to the parents, spouses of those lost in Iraq, it too uncomfortable and little bit of arrogance.

[clarker]

Originally Posted by papi728

I have some questions.

Why won't the President talk with her privately? He can talk tough with "the terrorists" but can't take the time to talk privately with someone he works for? Why is he not scared of the terrorists but scared of her?

Now before I get all the he'll be setting a precedent if he does replies, just ask yourself one question. What's the downside if he does?

I don't plan are debating anyone on this subject. Just want other points of view.

You do that Bush already met in private with her shortly after her son died, right? That after that meeting She said she had a good feeling about why her son was there and that he died for a good cause.

This was revealed yesterday on Connected Coast to Coast on MSNBC. She appeared on the program and confirmed this. She was on the program and they asked her about it.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by clarker

You do that Bush already met in private with her shortly after her son died, right? That after that meeting She said she had a good feeling about why her son was there and that he died for a good cause.

This was revealed yesterday on Connected Coast to Coast on MSNBC. She appeared on the program and confirmed this. She was on the program and they asked her about it.

Bro tell the whole story my man .............
9 months after she buried her son . Still in shock , I know when we had to bury my little Brother my mom was "out of it "for years .............. And that was before all these reports like the Doulfer WMD report , Downing street memo etc ........
as you can clearly see, the ball game has changed since their first meeting ........

[clarker]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Bro tell the whole story my man .............
9 months after she buried her son . Still in shock , I know when we had to bury my little Brother my mom was "out of it "for years .............. And that was before all these reports like the Doulfer WMD report , Downing street memo etc ........
as you can clearly see, the ball game has changed since their first meeting ........

Perhaps it has, but I'm not as sold on the downing Street memo as you. You guys think it is the bible when really it is just some British agents thoughts on what they thought was happening.

But any ways Papi was saying that Bush had not met with her and that is simply not true. Even if her feelings on the meeting have changed since then, the fact is Bush already met with her, so I don't think it fair to say he was "afraid" to meet with her.

Don't get me wrong I feel for her, I really do, but I just don't see what Bush could say to make her feel better or believe him. She has her mind made up and no matter what Bush says She won't buy it.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by clarker

Perhaps it has, but I'm not as sold on the downing Street memo as you. You guys think it is the bible when really it is just some British agents thoughts on what they thought was happening.

But any ways Papi was saying that Bush had not met with her and that is simply not true. Even if her feelings on the meeting have changed since then, the fact is Bush already met with her, so I don't think it fair to say he was "afraid" to meet with her.

Don't get me wrong I feel for her, I really do, but I just don't see what Bush could say to make her feel better or believe him. She has her mind made up and no matter what Bush says She won't buy it.

If I remember correctly Bush meet her with large group of others for about 5 minutes and said something about sacrifices where necessary and never referred to any individual by name.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by clarker

Perhaps it has, but I'm not as sold on the downing Street memo as you. You guys think it is the bible when really it is just some British agents thoughts on what they thought was happening.

It just isnt the Memo its self , I know clinging to the it is only an interpitation line works , but lets look at the big picture .......
1. Bush Stated , Saddam tried to get yellow cake from Niger ..... when that turned out to be false , it was on to another excuse .......
2. Saddam Has WMD ... Again False and when debunked , went with #3
3. Saddam has irect links to al-qadea = this turned out to be false also ..... so now we are in it for the liberation .......
Now you tell me 1 time Bush has been honest about Iraq , then come back and tell me the downing street memo is bogus .......
dont piss on my leg and tell me it is raining .........

[clarker]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

It just isnt the Memo its self , I know clinging to the it is only an interpitation line works , but lets look at the big picture .......
1. Bush Stated , Saddam tried to get yellow cake from Niger ..... when that turned out to be false , it was on to another excuse .......
2. Saddam Has WMD ... Again False and when debunked , went with #3
3. Saddam has irect links to al-qadea = this turned out to be false also ..... so now we are in it for the liberation .......
Now you tell me 1 time Bush has been honest about Iraq , then come back and tell me the downing street memo is bogus .......
dont piss on my leg and tell me it is raining .........

I've put up link after link showing that Clinton thought they had WMD, is he lying as well?

As did the Germans, China, Russians and France all opposed to the Iraq war but thought they had WMD's. They didn't have their own intelligence on the matter? Yeah, right. I suppose you will say that they relied on Bush and he lied. Yeah, right.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by clarker

I've put up link after link showing that Clinton thought they had WMD, is he lying as well?

No you put up a link where clinton said Saddam had a WMD Programe ....... Not Actual WMD ........ We already hased over this though

As did the Germans, China, Russians and France all opposed to the Iraq war but thought they had WMD's. They didn't have their own intelligence on the matter? Yeah, right. I suppose you will say that they relied on Bush and he lied. Yeah, right.

Again no one is denying Saddam had a WMD programe , what we said was Saddam doesnt have WMD , and we was right ........ there is a huge difference in a Programe vs Having WMD ........ it is that simple

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The chimp-wimp avoids Cindy by 'copter



Costing us five grand per hour.

P_ssy.
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Bush ducks mother of dead soldier

President using helicopter to enter, leave Texas ranch to avoid confrontation

Yet there was no sign Mr. Bush intends to meet Ms. Sheehan. In fact, there were reports he is travelling solely by helicopter when he leaves the ranch in an effort to avoid racing past the protester in a limousine.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...International/

[TomServo]

how many families did clinton meet after bosnia? O Wait none. after all he didnt take any chances. how many mothers did roosevelt meet after guadalcanal?

[TomServo]

how many mothers did roosevelt comfort after their sons perished sometime in december in the cold hull of the Arizona? BLAH Blah Blah

[TomServo]

we can feel sheehans pain but anyone with a brain can see her overall motives.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by TomServo

how many mothers did roosevelt comfort after their sons perished sometime in december in the cold hull of the Arizona? BLAH Blah Blah

Ignorant analogy! Did we atack Japan to install our view of government?

we can feel sheehans pain but anyone with a brain can see her overall motives.

No, you tell us what her "overall" motive is.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TomServo

we can feel sheehans pain but anyone with a brain can see her overall motives.

you will have to clue me in as to her overall motive .........

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TomServo

how many mothers did roosevelt comfort after their sons perished sometime in december in the cold hull of the Arizona? BLAH Blah Blah

pulled this out of your ass didnt you ..........

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by TomServo

how many families did clinton meet after bosnia? O Wait none. after all he didnt take any chances.

After that botched mission in Somalia in which 18 U.S. servicemen were killed, some of the parents demanded an audience with Clinton - and they got one.

What's the monkey's excuse?

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by TomServo

how many families did clinton meet after bosnia? O Wait none. after all he didnt take any chances. how many mothers did roosevelt meet after guadalcanal?

Nice try, but there were no combat fatalities in Bosnia, in Iraq 1700 and counting. Bush could have at least attended the funeral for the 16 killed in Ohio.

[errand]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

Nice try, but there were no combat fatalities in Bosnia, in Iraq 1700 and counting. Bush could have at least attended the funeral for the 16 killed in Ohio.

Oh stop it, you leftist slug.....you know damn good and well that even if Bush had met with every single member of a slain soldier's family, you clowns would still be in here b****ing.

It's what you do best....

[errand]

Originally Posted by TomServo

how many mothers did roosevelt comfort after their sons perished sometime in december in the cold hull of the Arizona? BLAH Blah Blah

Did you know that a journal was found in the wreckage, and the last entry in it was around Christmas time in '41?

[errand]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

No you put up a link where clinton said Saddam had a WMD Programe ....... Not Actual WMD ........ We already hased over this though


Again no one is denying Saddam had a WMD programe , what we said was Saddam doesnt have WMD , and we was right ........ there is a huge difference in a Programe vs Having WMD ........ it is that simple

So having the program while openly sponsoring terrorist groups wouldn't be what you consider a threat? Tell me Spider does that mean because Al-Q doesn't have a nuke,(as far as we know) your not worried about their ability to obtain one?

Amazing, you leftist clowns want to reduce/remove the chance that a law-abiding citizen can get ahold of a gun in order to prevent some possible tragedy....but aren't willing to reduce or remove the chance of a rogue dictator who had shown the desire to conquer other nations, had used chemical weapons, and openly supported terrorist organizations all the time with training sites, and money, and quite possibly intel, from getting a nuclear weapon.

[errand]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

Bush could have at least attended the funeral for the 16 killed in Ohio.

The chances of a National Guard unit losing soldiers form the same area is greater than a regular unit as those in the guard serve locally, and regular units have troops from all over the place. so for one unit to lose 16 guys and gals from the same state is quite possible as most who serve in the Ohio NG are from, I dunno....Ohio?

But tell us why he should have gone to that funeral instead of any other?

Are soldiers from Ohio more important than soldiers from Tennesee? Are they more important that soldiers from Florida? California, Texas? If he attended their funeral, then he'd have to attend them all, and that is something that is not possible for several reasons like he's got a country to run, and a war to prosecute,.....unless he wants to send the same message that your sending.

Ohio casualties mean more than any other state's do.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by errand

Oh stop it, you leftist slug.....you know damn good and well that even if Bush had met with every single member of a slain soldier's family, you clowns would still be in here b****ing.

It's what you do best....

Listen here you right wing POS, your copout statement that you somehow know what I would do or say if the president attended a funeral is ridiculous.This president is responsible for over 1800 deaths, and thousands of maimed soldiers. And for what? He wont let us see the coffins, he wont attend any funerals, and he is dodging that mother like he dodged vietnam. He is a weak little man.

[Rigs11]

Originally Posted by errand

The chances of a National Guard unit losing soldiers form the same area is greater than a regular unit as those in the guard serve locally, and regular units have troops from all over the place. so for one unit to lose 16 guys and gals from the same state is quite possible as most who serve in the Ohio NG are from, I dunno....Ohio?

But tell us why he should have gone to that funeral instead of any other?

Are soldiers from Ohio more important than soldiers from Tennesee? Are they more important that soldiers from Florida? California, Texas? If he attended their funeral, then he'd have to attend them all, and that is something that is not possible for several reasons like he's got a country to run, and a war to prosecute,.....unless he wants to send the same message that your sending.

Ohio casualties mean more than any other state's do.

who cares what the chances are? It happened numskull. Ohio was hit especially hard and your hero was on vacation at the time the funeral was held. If he had any balls or respect he would have attended.In your weak little mind you actually think that not attending any funerals is allright. Copout.