The official **** Pierre Lacroix thread - The Orange Mane

Swedish Extrovert · 08-04-2005, 01:09 PM

I kinda hope the Av's struggle without Forsberg - long term. So Pierre Lacroix doesent make the same bonehead mistakes.

I'm about to get banned from the Colorado Avalanche forum for my ranting on Lacroix.... It just hurts that much.

Anyway.... Go Flyers! (It still dosent feel right to say... I'll get the hang of it over time)

bronco militia · 08-04-2005, 01:11 PM

you can't blame all of this on PL.....nobody forced Foppa to sign that contract.

Swedish Extrovert · 08-04-2005, 01:13 PM

What was he supposed to do?

Why have hamburger when you can have steak, right?

It was Pierre's responsibility to bring him back. He FAILED.

Go Flyers! (eh... I'll get there)

Breck Bronc · 08-04-2005, 01:14 PM

Lacroix had his hands tied by the cap. Were were going to lose 2 of 6 star players; either Sakic, Forsberg, Blake, Foote, Hejduk, or Tanguay. It turns out Forsberg and Foote were the ones to go. It's punishment for selling out every game for a decade and not signing high priced free agents from other teams.

bronco militia · 08-04-2005, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightySmurf

What was he supposed to do?

Why have hamburger when you can have steak, right?

It was Pierre's responsibility to bring him back. He FAILED.

Go Flyers! (eh... I'll get there)

go flyers?!?!?!

you'll burn in hockey hell for cheers like that...

Swedish Extrovert · 08-04-2005, 01:18 PM

Lacroix let 2 of his top 4 players - and his 2 assistant team Captains go in one free agency period.

I would hav ecut Tanguay to keep Forsber in tow.

I though that by letting Foote go, we would be able to retain Forsberg...

But losing Foote AND Forsberg at once? Thats unthinkable.

The worst has happened.

Plus maybe the "Go Flyers" will feel more natrual once the season starts.

Hogan11 · 08-04-2005, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightySmurf

I kinda hope the Av's struggle without Forsberg - long term. So Pierre Lacroix doesent make the same bonehead mistakes.

I'm about to get banned from the Colorado Avalanche forum for my ranting on Lacroix.... It just hurts that much.

Anyway.... Go Flyers! (It still dosent feel right to say... I'll get the hang of it over time)

You mean you'd book from the team you followed over this??

That's pretty weak Man......c'mon, you're not fairweathered are you?

I'm always happy to welcome more onto the Flyers bandwagon....but not like this...

Hogan11 · 08-04-2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

go flyers?!?!?!

you'll burn in hockey hell for cheers like that...

As Bon Scott once said: "Hell ain't a bad place to be"

Swedish Extrovert · 08-04-2005, 01:23 PM

You grow attached to certain players....

I liked Forsberg on several levels. First, he played in Colorado.... second I loved the way he played and the way he handled himself... third, with my avitar now you could see that I'm Swedish. Forsberg was the reason I watched and played hockey.

I went to Ornskoldsvik durring trip through Sweden with my uncle last month. While I was up there, thats all I really talked about with the people. He is just as popular there as he is in Colorado.

SoCalBronco · 08-04-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightySmurf

What was he supposed to do?

Why have hamburger when you can have steak, right?

It was Pierre's responsibility to bring him back. He FAILED.

Go Flyers! (eh... I'll get there)

Go Flyers? So much for being a die hard Avs fan.
Thats pretty weak. You ditch your team just because a fellow swede leaves town?

Rohirrim · 08-04-2005, 01:24 PM

The other thing to remember is how long is Peter going to play? Or put another way, given the beatdowns he's taken for years, how many years does he have left? Especially compared to Hejduk and Tanquey? Unfortunately, now the Av opponents are going to look at Sakic like some kind of free lunch. I'm sure the NHL will uphold the new rules and keep Joe from getting constantly mugged.

Swedish Extrovert · 08-04-2005, 01:24 PM

I guess you could say I was a loyal fan to the Av's, they had a player I grew on... I became a loyal Av's fan because of Forsberg.

I thought this thread was about Pierre Lacroix?

I'll change my avitar when I can. I just wanted to change it from my Navy one.

Hogan11 · 08-04-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightySmurf

You grow attached to certain players....

I liked Forsberg on several levels. First, he played in Colorado.... second I loved the way he played and the way he handled himself... third, with my avitar now you could see that I'm Swedish. Forsberg was the reason I watched and played hockey.

I went to Ornskoldsvik durring trip through Sweden with my uncle last month. While I was up there, thats all I really talked about with the people. He is just as popular there as he is in Colorado.

Ahh, the cult of the personality thing, I get it now....

BTW, you can only see 1/4 of your avatar.

Kid A · 08-04-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogan11

You mean you'd book from the team you followed over this??

That's pretty weak Man......c'mon, you're not fairweathered are you?

I'm always happy to welcome more onto the Flyers bandwagon....but not like this...

Other teams' fans like to knock Avs fans for being fairweather since all we've known is winning. Hell, the Avs won the Cup first year in Denver. Some of the fan reactions I've seen the last couple days are proving critics true.

bronco militia · 08-04-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

The other thing to remember is how long is Peter going to play? Or put another way, given the beatdowns he's taken for years, how many years does he have left? Especially compared to Hejduk and Tanquey? Unfortunately, now the Av opponents are going to look at Sakic like some kind of free lunch. I'm sure the NHL will uphold the new rules and keep Joe from getting constantly mugged.

According to last nights am950thefan's interview with Pierre Lacroix, Forsberg was not interested in any contract longer than 2 years.

bendog · 08-04-2005, 01:27 PM

Personally, I'm more annoyed at having to let Foote go. Foote prolly can play at a high level for a few more years. Blake's great, and has the big shot of course, but it'd have been nice if Pierre could've strutchured the times of the contracts to keep Foote instead.

But I hate the whole labor agreement. I'd rather have seen less cap and consolodated some teams.

bpc · 08-04-2005, 01:28 PM

Get over it. I think we all loved Forsberg. Unfortunately he won't be in the NHL for the long haul... he would only take a two year deal. You are going to deal guys like Hejduk and Tanguay who are very young still and have star power written all over them for two year flirtation with Forsberg? I'm as sad as the next Avs fan but that is just stupid. First of all, Forsberg will be lucky if plays 2/3's of his games for the Flyers. He has all kind of injury problems and hes starting to become concussion prone. Not good when you have a huge bullseye on your head night in and night out.

I don't blame Lacroix one bit. He had to make a tough decision. Blake can play defense and score and Sakic year in and year out produces. You keep them and the young kids previously mentioned and let the older defenseman Foote (i love that guy, he should have been a lifer) and Forsberg go. There is no easy decision about this but this is the NHL we are in now. The reason we are in this problem is that we draft, develope and implement players so well in our system.

Hogan11 · 08-04-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

Other teams' fans like to knock Avs fans for being fairweather since all we've known is winning. Hell, the Avs won the Cup first year in Denver. Some of the fan reactions I've seen the last couple days are proving critics true.

Ah yes...didja know that Aubut still can't set foot in Quebec City after selling the Nords to the Denver group? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the death warrant is still out on him to this day.

Swedish Extrovert · 08-04-2005, 01:30 PM

This Thread Isnt About Forsberg, Its About Lacroix Letting Forsberg Go When He Should Have Retained Him

Rohirrim · 08-04-2005, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

According to last nights am950thefan's interview with Pierre Lacroix, Forsberg was not interested in any contract longer than 2 years.

I'm guessing this is Peter's cash out year, and then it's back to Sweden. I wish him all the best. He gave his all to the Avs. I have nothing but respect for him, for all time. Pierre had to make a nasty decision, but I don't see where he had a bunch of options.

FADERPROOF · 08-04-2005, 01:33 PM

I'm not anywhere near ready to say "**** Pierre Lacroix," because unlike the fairweathered Mightysmurf here, I can recall the great trades that he had made, and the great farm system that he has helped draft, among other great things that he has done for this Franchise.

bpc · 08-04-2005, 01:34 PM

Theres a thing called limited resources. Look it up. You only care because you are Swedish. I hate to tell you but that doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to numbers.

Forsberg could have come down on his side if he really wanted to stay. He knew where we were at CAP Wise. Hell for all the years we paid him money and he was out with an injury, he should have given us a pass. We nursed him through so many injuries, its sick to think of. Yet, the first and probably last chance he gets to go for the bottom dollar... he goes to the highest bidder.

That was his call, not Pierre's.

Kid A · 08-04-2005, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightySmurf

This Thread Isnt About Forsberg, Its About Lacroix Letting Forsberg Go When He Should Have Retained Him

Maybe There Is An Arguement To Be Made That More Could Have Been Done To Keep Forsberg, But That Doesn't Mean You Jump Ship And Start Rooting For The ****ing Flyers.

FADERPROOF · 08-04-2005, 01:35 PM

If there wasn't a salary cap, then I'm sure Forsberg would sign back with the Avs, but if there wasn't a salary cap, then the NHL would still be on a lockeout.

So take your pick, Forsberg not an Av or no NHL?

Clockwork Orange · 08-04-2005, 01:35 PM

10 years of doing all he could to put a winner on the ice, now he's constricted by the salary cap and has to make some unpopular decisions and all of a sudden it's **** you?

Par for the course. Some are pissed at Forsberg, others Lacroix. I can't honestly find fault with either of them. It's just the harsh reality of the situation.

08-04-2005, 01:09 PM	#1
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,964 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	The official Pierre Lacroix thread I kinda hope the Av's struggle without Forsberg - long term. So Pierre Lacroix doesent make the same bonehead mistakes. I'm about to get banned from the Colorado Avalanche forum for my ranting on Lacroix.... It just hurts that much. Anyway.... Go Flyers! (It still dosent feel right to say... I'll get the hang of it over time)

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08-04-2005, 01:11 PM	#2
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	you can't blame all of this on PL.....nobody forced Foppa to sign that contract.

08-04-2005, 01:13 PM	#3
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,964 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	What was he supposed to do? Why have hamburger when you can have steak, right? It was Pierre's responsibility to bring him back. He FAILED. Go Flyers! (eh... I'll get there)

08-04-2005, 01:14 PM	#4
Breck Bronc Roland Deschain The Gunslinger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,058	Lacroix had his hands tied by the cap. Were were going to lose 2 of 6 star players; either Sakic, Forsberg, Blake, Foote, Hejduk, or Tanguay. It turns out Forsberg and Foote were the ones to go. It's punishment for selling out every game for a decade and not signing high priced free agents from other teams.

08-04-2005, 01:18 PM	#6
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,964 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	Lacroix let 2 of his top 4 players - and his 2 assistant team Captains go in one free agency period. I would hav ecut Tanguay to keep Forsber in tow. I though that by letting Foote go, we would be able to retain Forsberg... But losing Foote AND Forsberg at once? Thats unthinkable. The worst has happened. Plus maybe the "Go Flyers" will feel more natrual once the season starts.

08-04-2005, 01:23 PM	#9
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,964 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	You grow attached to certain players.... I liked Forsberg on several levels. First, he played in Colorado.... second I loved the way he played and the way he handled himself... third, with my avitar now you could see that I'm Swedish. Forsberg was the reason I watched and played hockey. I went to Ornskoldsvik durring trip through Sweden with my uncle last month. While I was up there, thats all I really talked about with the people. He is just as popular there as he is in Colorado.

08-04-2005, 01:24 PM	#11
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,852	The other thing to remember is how long is Peter going to play? Or put another way, given the beatdowns he's taken for years, how many years does he have left? Especially compared to Hejduk and Tanquey? Unfortunately, now the Av opponents are going to look at Sakic like some kind of free lunch. I'm sure the NHL will uphold the new rules and keep Joe from getting constantly mugged.

08-04-2005, 01:27 PM	#16
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Personally, I'm more annoyed at having to let Foote go. Foote prolly can play at a high level for a few more years. Blake's great, and has the big shot of course, but it'd have been nice if Pierre could've strutchured the times of the contracts to keep Foote instead. But I hate the whole labor agreement. I'd rather have seen less cap and consolodated some teams.

08-04-2005, 01:28 PM	#17
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,574 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Get over it. I think we all loved Forsberg. Unfortunately he won't be in the NHL for the long haul... he would only take a two year deal. You are going to deal guys like Hejduk and Tanguay who are very young still and have star power written all over them for two year flirtation with Forsberg? I'm as sad as the next Avs fan but that is just stupid. First of all, Forsberg will be lucky if plays 2/3's of his games for the Flyers. He has all kind of injury problems and hes starting to become concussion prone. Not good when you have a huge bullseye on your head night in and night out. I don't blame Lacroix one bit. He had to make a tough decision. Blake can play defense and score and Sakic year in and year out produces. You keep them and the young kids previously mentioned and let the older defenseman Foote (i love that guy, he should have been a lifer) and Forsberg go. There is no easy decision about this but this is the NHL we are in now. The reason we are in this problem is that we draft, develope and implement players so well in our system.

08-04-2005, 01:30 PM	#19
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,964 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	This Thread Isnt About Forsberg, Its About Lacroix Letting Forsberg Go When He Should Have Retained Him

08-04-2005, 01:33 PM	#21
FADERPROOF Bucknuts Colossus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Eastlake OH Posts: 17,338	I'm not anywhere near ready to say "**** Pierre Lacroix," because unlike the fairweathered Mightysmurf here, I can recall the great trades that he had made, and the great farm system that he has helped draft, among other great things that he has done for this Franchise.

08-04-2005, 01:34 PM	#22
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,574 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Theres a thing called limited resources. Look it up. You only care because you are Swedish. I hate to tell you but that doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to numbers. Forsberg could have come down on his side if he really wanted to stay. He knew where we were at CAP Wise. Hell for all the years we paid him money and he was out with an injury, he should have given us a pass. We nursed him through so many injuries, its sick to think of. Yet, the first and probably last chance he gets to go for the bottom dollar... he goes to the highest bidder. That was his call, not Pierre's.

08-04-2005, 01:35 PM	#24
FADERPROOF Bucknuts Colossus Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Eastlake OH Posts: 17,338	If there wasn't a salary cap, then I'm sure Forsberg would sign back with the Avs, but if there wasn't a salary cap, then the NHL would still be on a lockeout. So take your pick, Forsberg not an Av or no NHL?

08-04-2005, 01:35 PM	#25
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	10 years of doing all he could to put a winner on the ice, now he's constricted by the salary cap and has to make some unpopular decisions and all of a sudden it's **** you? Par for the course. Some are pissed at Forsberg, others Lacroix. I can't honestly find fault with either of them. It's just the harsh reality of the situation.