I knew this was comming ...Russia + Chinia = Communism alive and well - The Orange Mane

Spider · 08-02-2005, 02:22 PM

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With Iran kissing Russian ass , North Korea thinking they got Game ,Taiwan wanting to be on their own ,Brad Pitt and Jenifer Aniston broke up .... There is just no telling where this will go .........
China and Russia joint exercises to strengthen ties
>By Mure Dickie in Beijing
>Published: August 2 2005 16:57 | Last updated: August 2 2005 16:57
>>

Nearly 10,000 troops are to take part in unprecedented joint military exercises by China and Russia this month aimed at strengthening ties between the armed forces of two powers that were once bitter foes.

Chinese state media said yesterday the â€œPeace Mission 2005â€ exercises would be held from August 18-25 in and around the Russian far eastern port of Vladivostok and the Chinese coastal province of Shandong.

The scale of the exercises, which will involve land, air, naval, paratroop and marine forces, underlines the determination of Beijing and Moscow to expand a military relationship that has blossomed over the past 15 years.

Russia is now China's leading source of high-technology weaponry, while the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has become an important source of foreign currency for the crumbling Russian military industrial complex. â€œThe drills mainly aim to deepen Sino-Russian mutual trust, promote mutual friendship and enhance the co-operation and co-ordination of the two armed forces in the areas of defence and security,â€ China's official Xinhua news agency said.

Xinhua said about 1,800 troops from Russia would take part in the exercises along with vessels of its Pacific fleet and 17 long-range military cargo planes. â€œThe joint exercises will also help strengthen the capability of the two armed forces in jointly striking international terrorism, extremism and separatism,â€ the agency said.

The reference to separatism will heighten concerns about the exercises in Taiwan, which enjoys de facto independence from China but which Beijing claims as part of its territory. Chinese and Russian officials have insisted the drills are not aimed at any third party. The choice of name for the exercises and the decision to characterise them as aimed against terrorism also reflect Beijing's desire to avoid fuelling wider worries about its emergence as a military power.

A much-watched report by the US Department of Defence last month suggested the PLA's growing clout may tempt Beijing to use force against its neighbours and that it could pose a â€œcredible threatâ€ in the long term to other militaries in the region.

The planned exercises set the seal on a dramatic shift in Sino-Russian ties since the late 1980s.

Some people in China say much of the Russian far east rightfully belongs to Beijing and territorial rivalry has underlain diplomatic ties for more than three centuries. Under former communist governments the two countries espoused rival brands of Marxism and fought bloody battles along their common border.

In recent years, China and Russia have worked hard to resolve differences on territorial issues, although some observers say their military marriage is still largely one of convenience.

Spider · 08-02-2005, 02:24 PM

The question is , what made Putin crawl into Bed with Chinia ?
What made Brad Leave Jenifer ? scarey times .......

W*GS · 08-02-2005, 04:22 PM

"Russia + Chinia = Communism alive and well"

Really?

These two countries, whose interests can conflict with US interests, aren't anywhere near as Communist as they once were, and as far as Russia is concerned, it is far from "well".

Spider · 08-02-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by W*GS

"Russia + Chinia = Communism alive and well"

Really?

These two countries, whose interests can conflict with US interests, aren't anywhere near as Communist as they once were, and as far as Russia is concerned, it is far from "well".

Thats nice ...... Did you hear about Brad Pitt and Jenifer Aniston ?

Montaq · 08-02-2005, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Â§PideÂ®

Thats nice ...... Did you hear about Brad Pitt and Jenifer Aniston ?

Yesterday's news. Nick and Jessica are divorcing now.

Spider · 08-02-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Montaq

Yesterday's news. Nick and Jessica are divorcing now.

Please tell me this is a joke .... I couldnt take the shock of Nick and Jessica ( just who in the hell are they ? )

Montaq · 08-02-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Â§PideÂ®

Please tell me this is a joke .... I couldnt take the shock of Nick and Jessica ( just who in the hell are they ? )

P.S. - You don't know who they are because they've never appeared on Tucker Carlson's show.

Spider · 08-02-2005, 05:30 PM

Jessica Simpson , But I still dont know who Nick is

......

Spider · 08-02-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Montaq

P.S. - You don't know who they are because they've never appeared on Tucker Carlson's show.

or Springer

elsid13 · 08-02-2005, 05:45 PM

Spider

This just a continue part of the economic relationship that Russia and Chinia have been developing over the years. Russia needs someone to buy their military equipment, since the former members of the Warsaw Pac are quickly adopting and buying either American or Western European plateforms. Chinia needs the techonology due to lack of organic capibilities.

BTW How did I know that your Springer man.

Spider · 08-02-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Spider

This just a continue part of the economic relationship that Russia and Chinia have been developing over the years. Russia needs someone to buy their military equipment, since the former members of the Warsaw Pac are quickly adopting and buying either American or Western European plateforms. Chinia needs the techonology due to lack of organic capibilities.

I sure hope so , what you say does make sense though .....

Quote:

BTW How did I know that your Springer man.

..... as long as I am not a guest it is all good

08-02-2005, 02:22 PM	#1
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I knew this was comming ...Russia + Chinia = Communism alive and well http://financialtimes.printthis.clic...partnerID=1702 With Iran kissing Russian ass , North Korea thinking they got Game ,Taiwan wanting to be on their own ,Brad Pitt and Jenifer Aniston broke up .... There is just no telling where this will go ......... China and Russia joint exercises to strengthen ties >By Mure Dickie in Beijing >Published: August 2 2005 16:57 \| Last updated: August 2 2005 16:57 >> Nearly 10,000 troops are to take part in unprecedented joint military exercises by China and Russia this month aimed at strengthening ties between the armed forces of two powers that were once bitter foes. Chinese state media said yesterday the â€œPeace Mission 2005â€ exercises would be held from August 18-25 in and around the Russian far eastern port of Vladivostok and the Chinese coastal province of Shandong. The scale of the exercises, which will involve land, air, naval, paratroop and marine forces, underlines the determination of Beijing and Moscow to expand a military relationship that has blossomed over the past 15 years. Russia is now China's leading source of high-technology weaponry, while the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has become an important source of foreign currency for the crumbling Russian military industrial complex. â€œThe drills mainly aim to deepen Sino-Russian mutual trust, promote mutual friendship and enhance the co-operation and co-ordination of the two armed forces in the areas of defence and security,â€ China's official Xinhua news agency said. Xinhua said about 1,800 troops from Russia would take part in the exercises along with vessels of its Pacific fleet and 17 long-range military cargo planes. â€œThe joint exercises will also help strengthen the capability of the two armed forces in jointly striking international terrorism, extremism and separatism,â€ the agency said. The reference to separatism will heighten concerns about the exercises in Taiwan, which enjoys de facto independence from China but which Beijing claims as part of its territory. Chinese and Russian officials have insisted the drills are not aimed at any third party. The choice of name for the exercises and the decision to characterise them as aimed against terrorism also reflect Beijing's desire to avoid fuelling wider worries about its emergence as a military power. A much-watched report by the US Department of Defence last month suggested the PLA's growing clout may tempt Beijing to use force against its neighbours and that it could pose a â€œcredible threatâ€ in the long term to other militaries in the region. The planned exercises set the seal on a dramatic shift in Sino-Russian ties since the late 1980s. Some people in China say much of the Russian far east rightfully belongs to Beijing and territorial rivalry has underlain diplomatic ties for more than three centuries. Under former communist governments the two countries espoused rival brands of Marxism and fought bloody battles along their common border. In recent years, China and Russia have worked hard to resolve differences on territorial issues, although some observers say their military marriage is still largely one of convenience.

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08-02-2005, 02:24 PM	#2
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	The question is , what made Putin crawl into Bed with Chinia ? What made Brad Leave Jenifer ? scarey times .......

08-02-2005, 04:22 PM	#3
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,601	"Russia + Chinia = Communism alive and well" Really? These two countries, whose interests can conflict with US interests, aren't anywhere near as Communist as they once were, and as far as Russia is concerned, it is far from "well".

08-02-2005, 05:30 PM	#8
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Jessica Simpson , But I still dont know who Nick is ......

08-02-2005, 05:45 PM	#10
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,139	Spider This just a continue part of the economic relationship that Russia and Chinia have been developing over the years. Russia needs someone to buy their military equipment, since the former members of the Warsaw Pac are quickly adopting and buying either American or Western European plateforms. Chinia needs the techonology due to lack of organic capibilities. BTW How did I know that your Springer man.