2 Year Contract for Mo C?

[ND Bronco Fan]

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_2892653

In that article it states that Claretts contract could be a shorter term than the three years the team usually awards picks from the third round or later. What is the thought process behind that?

[SpringStein]

Simply a guess - from Clarret's agent, it may mean that they believe he can outperform what the #100 drafted player will get. Therefore, in two years he would be getting a much larger contract if he does perform well. From the Broncos perspective, they won't be risking as much into a player that has a history of some questionable decision making.

[Ninjafied]

Originally Posted by SpringStein

Simply a guess - from Clarret's agent, it may mean that they believe he can outperform what the #100 drafted player will get. Therefore, in two years he would be getting a much larger contract if he does perform well. From the Broncos perspective, they won't be risking as much into a player that has a history of some questionable decision making.

I'm guessing the Broncos don't want to see if he's the type of guy that will holdout for a bigger contract if given the chance

[Broncoman13]

I'll be very disappointed in a two year deal. That would be two gifts we've given Mo. First drafting him, then giving him a 2 year deal so that he can reneg. a better contract in two years. What exactly is the benefit for the Broncos? A three year deal probably gives him about 400k in bonus money. A two year deal about 290k. Not sure we save anything and with low salaries like that it's not like we couldn't cut him if he wasn't working out. Think Madise a couple years back. Signed to a long term deal. Didn't work out, out the door! This is a big favor for MoC and I'll be pissed!

[ND Bronco Fan]

I would have liked to see a minimum of a two year deal myself, give him two years to get his feet under him and then trade him away before his third season and contract season.

[baja]

Maybe after seeing him up front and close in mini camp they gave a two year deal to prove he belongs in the NFL

[Mediator12]

Originally Posted by Bronco Man 13

I'll be very disappointed in a two year deal. That would be two gifts we've given Mo. First drafting him, then giving him a 2 year deal so that he can reneg. a better contract in two years. What exactly is the benefit for the Broncos? A three year deal probably gives him about 400k in bonus money. A two year deal about 290k. Not sure we save anything and with low salaries like that it's not like we couldn't cut him if he wasn't working out. Think Madise a couple years back. Signed to a long term deal. Didn't work out, out the door! This is a big favor for MoC and I'll be pissed!

Not Neccessarily BMAN13.

The article stipulates that further years are incentive based and if he does perform to those incentives would probably kick in an escalation clause that pays him better and Extends the number of years.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Originally Posted by baja fan

Maybe after seeing him up front and close in mini camp they gave a two year deal to prove he belongs in the NFL

Was afraid someone was thinking that, that was my first impression too....then someone said said their guess was posturing by his agent so sign as short of a contract as he can cuz he will out play it. Optimist vs. Pessimist I guess.

[Broncoman13]

Originally Posted by Mediator12

Not Neccessarily BMAN13.

The article stipulates that further years are incentive based and if he does perform to those incentives would probably kick in an escalation clause that pays him better and Extends the number of years.

That sounds better. I didn't read the article... my bad! So long as we're protected and don't have to turn him loose after two years of development without any return. Personally, I say sign him for 4 years and if he turns out then let him pull a Portis, want more money, and trade him away... or sign him long turn if he is that good!

[Mile High Shack]

I figure they saw him come to camp about 30 lbs over weight and figured he wasn't as serious as they figured about his football career

man I hate that pick still

[Beantown Bronco]

Since the majority of guys only seem to step it up in their contract year, I say sign everyone to one or at best two year deals and get the best out of them year-in and year-out. That and the fact that players are looking to renegotiate one or two years into multi-year deals, why bother signing them for any longer anyway?

Shorter contracts can give more incentive to play hard. Six or seven year deals can allow a player to fluff around for 3-4 years, step it up for one year, and then cry for more money based off that one year (ignoring what happened before....see Javon Walker). Let's eliminate some of that fluff time and keep guys in that "contract year" mentality every year.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by ND Bronco Fan

I would have liked to see a minimum of a two year deal myself, give him two years to get his feet under him and then trade him away before his third season and contract season.

If you are only drafting to trade, then why not just draft 7 RBs every year? Think of all the great stuff you could get with 7 RBs to trade.

The Broncos already waste 1 pick in EVERY draft on a RB that isn't gonna be there in a year or so. Those are draft picks that could be used on positions of need. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen in football. But for some reason, because Planahan has a good running scheme no one questions why he wastes a draft pick every year. Which is fine with me. I am only curious why no one else sees it.

[Beantown Bronco]

OK, Horse....name the wasted picks and then name a player of need available at those slots that the Broncos should've gotten. You are looking at 2nd day picks mostly, that have by and large panned out on the field AND gotten value back if traded.

[clarker]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

If you are only drafting to trade, then why not just draft 7 RBs every year? Think of all the great stuff you could get with 7 RBs to trade.

The Broncos already waste 1 pick in EVERY draft on a RB that isn't gonna be there in a year or so. Those are draft picks that could be used on positions of need. It's one of the dumbest things I've seen in football. But for some reason, because Planahan has a good running scheme no one questions why he wastes a draft pick every year. Which is fine with me. I am only curious why no one else sees it.

Shanahan drafts a RB every year because the average career for an NFL RB is 4 years.

[SpringStein]

Last year four rb's played 16 games. It is a position that invites injury.

For instance, even a Priest needs healing.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

OK, Horse....name the wasted picks and then name a player of need available at those slots that the Broncos should've gotten. You are looking at 2nd day picks mostly, that have by and large panned out on the field AND gotten value back if traded.

I wasn't challenging you. I was merely saying that the Broncos draft a RB every year. What did you get for Droughns?

[clarker]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I wasn't challenging you. I was merely saying that the Broncos draft a RB every year. What did you get for Droughns?

I think we got two Eukuban(sp?) and Myers. Or was it just Myers. I don't remember.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by SpringStein

Last year four rb's played 16 games. It is a position that invites injury.

For instance, even a Priest needs healing.

I can appreciate what you are saying. But there are 31 other teams in the league that dont have to draft a RB every year. They draft at other positions of need. Sooner or later, the luxury of picking up a new back every year, has to cost you somewhere else. It's only logic.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by clarker

Shanahan drafts a RB every year because the average career for an NFL RB is 4 years.

I think it used to be every 3 year. In any event, that means that he could get by, drafting a back every 3 years.

[Odysseus]

It seems the Broncos are going to shorter contracts overall. Does anyone else see that?

[clarker]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I can appreciate what you are saying. But there are 31 other teams in the league that dont have to draft a RB every year. They draft at other positions of need. Sooner or later, the luxury of picking up a new back every year, has to cost you somewhere else. It's only logic.

There are 31 teams that have not had as consistant of a running game the Broncos have had in the last 10 years as well.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by quiettiger

It seems the Broncos are going to shorter contracts overall. Does anyone else see that?

Funny you mention that because I noticed the sme thing with the Chiefs. Do you think it has something to do with the bargaining agreement?

[OrangeCrush2724]

We cry when a RB overachieves his contract salary and say "he should live up to the contract" ie. Portis.

Now we cry b/c he will sign too short of a deal so when he does overachieve his contract he no longer would be obligated to us.

[clarker]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Funny you mention that because I noticed the sme thing with the Chiefs. Do you think it has something to do with the bargaining agreement?

I just think teams are getting smarter and not wanting to type up cap room for as many years for players that have not played a single down yet.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by clarker

There are 31 teams that have not had as consistant of a running game the Broncos have had in the last 10 years as well.

Again, the broncos have successful scheme. All the more reason not to waste a draft pick every year. This year they really wasted it because they picked the guy up about 3 or 4 rounds early.

Do you feel like Clarrett is going to be the guy this season?

As desperate as the Bronco seemed in the off season to grab anything they could get thier hands on for the D line, you would think that perhaps you might draft a d linemean.