CBS sportsline Bronco DL blurb - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 07-23-2005, 09:18 AM

"The Broncos landed four former Cleveland Browns defensive lineman in the offseason, two of them former high first-round picks in Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren and a third, Ebenezer Ekuban, another former first-round pick. But word out of the Broncos camp is the fourth player, Michael Myers, was the most impressive of the four at the team's offseason workouts. Myers, an eighth-year player out of Alabama, could be the starter at defensive tackle. Myers doesn't have the ability Warren has, but he gets more out of what he has. As for Brown, the first-overall pick in the 2000 draft, he looked good at times, and he shined in terms of athletic ability, but he continued to look stiff. That's been the knock on him for his entire career. Even so, he is expected to start opposite Trevor Pryce at defensive end, although John Engelberger, who came over this week in trade from San Francisco, could also push for a starting spot."

watermock · 07-23-2005, 09:25 AM

Can I start b****ing yet?

scorpio · 07-23-2005, 09:30 AM

oops.

Play2win · 07-23-2005, 09:31 AM

Can we actually see some GAME action before we jump to conclusions about who is overachieving and who is underachieving?

TheReverend · 07-23-2005, 09:32 AM

Mock- sure why not?

Scorpio- It never calls him a defensive end...

TheReverend · 07-23-2005, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play2Win

Can we actually see some GAME action before we jump to conclusions about who is overachieving and who is underachieving?

Dont be ridiculous. Remember when you were a kid at Christmas? Anticipation is better than the presents.

scorpio · 07-23-2005, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Mock- sure why not?

Scorpio- It never calls him a defensive end...

I know, it's early and I left my reading comprehension at the bar last night

watermock · 07-23-2005, 09:41 AM

I don't go postal till we lose our first game.

Tredici · 07-23-2005, 09:43 AM

Why does everyone but the media realize Denver is going to use these guys in heavy rotation? (Perhaps Bowlen has been learning the importance of last line change from Pierre.) I don't think being a starter in the type of scheme the Broncos want to execute is much of a big deal. Of course recognizing the plan to have a plentiful supply of capable bodies might mean acknowledging that maybe the offseason moves weren't as insignificant as being presented. Of course it isn't easy for these hacks to see anything as progressive. We live in a society where scorn and smack are applauded. God forbid anyone try anything outside of their acceptable comfort zone. Far easier not to think, or try to see innovation. Just keep blurping out the same old chit.

Play2win · 07-23-2005, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

Dont be ridiculous. Remember when you were a kid at Christmas? Anticipation is better than the presents.

Yeah, at 4am I got to open my Stocking Presents, then I had to wait a god-awful 3 more hours to get my hands on the real goods...

I never ever slept a wink on Christmas Eve...

I Just want to see some D*MN FOOTBALL!! @#!*&!!!!

I Guess that Training Camp is our Stocking Stuffers, and its almost 4am. I want the real presents (regular season), but I guess I will have to settle for the Stocking Stuf... er, I mean, Training Camp and Preseason for the time being...

I really want to see the Regular Season, NOW!! But maybe Training Camp will preoccupy myself and distract me for a little while...

Man I HATE waiting for something you REALLY want!!!

watermock · 07-23-2005, 09:44 AM

I remember my brothers teasing me about Santa. He was outside the window and I would run out in the snow trying to capture him and the entire familiy would be falling down laughing.

I was 15.

KillerBronco#76 · 07-24-2005, 01:40 AM

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I was 15.

You were 15 and still thinkin santa was real? You had to be what a sophmore in highschool so most people your age were getting p***Y before you figured out that santa wasnt real... Interesting

Well i guess it was a different time so mabey what i said above has no relavance to when you grew up but in todays standards thats how it would be.

baja · 07-24-2005, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

I remember my brothers teasing me about Santa. He was outside the window and I would run out in the snow trying to capture him and the entire familiy would be falling down laughing.

I was 15.

Why were they laughing?

Tombstone RJ · 07-24-2005, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

"The Broncos landed four former Cleveland Browns defensive lineman in the offseason, two of them former high first-round picks in Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren and a third, Ebenezer Ekuban, another former first-round pick. But word out of the Broncos camp is the fourth player, Michael Myers, was the most impressive of the four at the team's offseason workouts. Myers, an eighth-year player out of Alabama, could be the starter at defensive tackle. Myers doesn't have the ability Warren has, but he gets more out of what he has. As for Brown, the first-overall pick in the 2000 draft, he looked good at times, and he shined in terms of athletic ability, but he continued to look stiff. That's been the knock on him for his entire career. Even so, he is expected to start opposite Trevor Pryce at defensive end, although John Engelberger, who came over this week in trade from San Francisco, could also push for a starting spot."

I don't put alot of stock in training camp/offseason work out stuff. Its a priority for the less talented guys to overachieve so they can have a spot on the team. Otherwise, they get cut.

I just want steady, healthy mental and physical progress for Brown and Warren. I don't need a highlight real before the season starts. I just want committment, reliability, progress and good health.

Jason in LA · 07-24-2005, 07:03 AM

From the reports from Shanny, Warren worked very hard in the offseason program. I'll take Shanny's work over these copy and paste hacks. They all write the same exact thing.

Drek · 07-24-2005, 07:17 AM

Yawn. Has the author of this piece actually watched any of these players? Brown definately didn't look "stiff" when on the field in Cleveland, he showed why he played out most of his very fat rookie contract, which is that he's supremely talented so the Browns were constantly hoping for that healthy season. He just has a wicked injury bug and hasn't had that yet, hopefully he does with us.

As for the Myers/Warren comparison, well, I'd imagine Myers is busting his ass trying to look the best he can, he's very much on the bubble. Using that as an indicator of where Warren is at though seems rather pointless though, since Warren isn't. Warren has focus and effort problems, not an issue with actually being talented, how he fairs in camp isn't nearly as relevant as how he fairs come the pre-season opener when the real hitting starts. If he keeps himself in shape and just goes out and plays hard he'll start.

I do like that Myers is actually doing quite well though. He could be a very valuable contributor, since we're weaker at DT than DE. Pryce and Brown will likely start at DE, backed up by two former starters who combined for 14 sacks last year in Ekuban and Engelberger. Warren is the only DT who seems like real starter material, and thats only if he shows up to work. We as a team could really use Myers stepping up, at least as a solid interior guy who can stop the run and keep double teams off our better linemen.

07-23-2005, 09:18 AM	#1
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,021 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	CBS sportsline Bronco DL blurb "The Broncos landed four former Cleveland Browns defensive lineman in the offseason, two of them former high first-round picks in Courtney Brown and Gerard Warren and a third, Ebenezer Ekuban, another former first-round pick. But word out of the Broncos camp is the fourth player, Michael Myers, was the most impressive of the four at the team's offseason workouts. Myers, an eighth-year player out of Alabama, could be the starter at defensive tackle. Myers doesn't have the ability Warren has, but he gets more out of what he has. As for Brown, the first-overall pick in the 2000 draft, he looked good at times, and he shined in terms of athletic ability, but he continued to look stiff. That's been the knock on him for his entire career. Even so, he is expected to start opposite Trevor Pryce at defensive end, although John Engelberger, who came over this week in trade from San Francisco, could also push for a starting spot."

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watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I remember my brothers teasing me about Santa. He was outside the window and I would run out in the snow trying to capture him and the entire familiy would be falling down laughing. I was 15. Last edited by watermock; 07-23-2005 at 09:46 AM..

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