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SoCalBronco · 07-20-2005, 01:05 PM

Broncos Unit by Unit Analysis

Quarterback Jake Plummer By Scout.com
Date: Jul 20, 2005

Take a look at how each unit of the Denver Broncos shapes up as they head into the 2005 training camp.

QUARTERBACK: Starter -- Jake Plummer. Backups -- Danny Kanell, Matt Mauck, Bradlee Van Pelt.
Plummer took every snap for the Broncos last year, so the backup position never was an issue. But it will be looked at closely during training camp this year. Kanell has experience and comes into camp as the No. 2 quarterback. Mauck, a seventh-round pick last year, impressed the coaches with a solid camp last year and Van Pelt has the best athletic ability of the group. Kanell took a pay cut this offseason to help his chances of winning a job. Plummer's ups and downs are well known. He can be inconsistent and make bad decisions, but he set some franchise single-season passing records last season and has the full support of Mike Shanahan.

RUNNING BACKS: Starters -- RB Tatum Bell, FB Kyle Johnson. Backups -- RB Mike Anderson, RB Quentin Griffin, RB Ron Dayne, RB Maurice Clarett, FB Cecil Sapp.
Bell and Anderson split first-team reps in the offseason. Bell has the most potential of the five tailbacks that are competing for the starting job and is the favorite, but he's not a lock to start. Anderson is fully recovered from a season-ending groin injury last year and was playing very well in the preseason last year before he got hurt. He's tough and reliable. Griffin is still recovering from knee surgery last year. Clarett and Dayne each are downhill runners that fit Denver's system. Johnson was a pleasant surprise for the Broncos last year. Sapp, a successful college tailback, opened some eyes when he filled in for an injured Johnson late last season.
TIGHT ENDS: Starter -- Jeb Putzier. Backups -- Patrick Hape, Stephen Alexander, Nate Jackson, Mike Leach. Putzier signed an offer sheet with the New York Jets this offseason, and the Broncos matched because they love Putzier's potential in their offense. Putzier can stretch the field and is one of the best deep threats at the position in the league. He is a former college receiver who creates matchup problems. He'll need to become a more consistent blocker. The Broncos hope teaming Putzier and Alexander in dual tight-end sets creates additional problems for defenses because both players have similar abilities and can line up anywhere on the field. Hape is a solid performer and always seems to find his way on the roster. Jackson is converting from receiver to tight end, where his size-speed combination might be a better fit.

SoCalBronco · 07-20-2005, 01:07 PM

WIDE RECEIVERS: Starters -- Rod Smith, Ashley Lelie. Backups -- Darius Watts, Jerry Rice, Triandos Luke, Charlie Adams, B.J. Johnson.
Smith and Lelie each gained 1,000 yards last year, in much different ways. Smith is Plummer's go-to guy on underneath routes, and he's showing few signs of slowing down. He keeps his body in great shape. Lelie is one of the best deep threats in the league, but he hasn't helped the Broncos much across the middle in his two years as a starter. Watts started strong and faded last year, and this year he has Rice looking over his shoulder. Watts will probably be the third receiver but he has to show some consistency in camp. Luke had a few bright moments last year and goes into camp as the favorite to win the No. 5 receiver spot on the roster.

OFFENSIVE LINE: Starters -- LT Matt Lepsis, LG Ben Hamilton, C Tom Nalen, RG Cooper Carlisle, RT George Foster. Backups -- T Anthony Clement, T Dwayne Carswell, T Cornell Green, C Josh Sewell, C/G Chris Myers, G Tim Stuber, G Cameron Spikes, G Tyson Clabo.
The only starter who might get pushed in camp is Carlisle. He was supposed to get some competition from P.J. Alexander but Alexander hurt his knee in an off-road vehicle accident and is out for the season. Former Cardinal Cameron Spikes could push for a starting job, but Carlisle should hold him off. Denver's tackles, Lepsis and Foster, are underrated. Lepsis is athletic and had a good year after switching from right to left tackle last year. Nalen is still the anchor of the line and the team likes Hamilton -- it signed him to a multi-year deal when he became an unrestricted free agent. There isn't a lot of depth.

DEFENSIVE LINE: Starters -- SDE Courtney Brown, DT Gerard Warren, DT Mario Fatafehi, WDE Trevor Pryce. Backups -- DE Ebenezer Ekuban, DE Anton Palepoi, DT Monsanto Pope, DT Dorsett Davis, DT Luther Elliss, DE Marco Coleman, DE Chukie Nwokorie, DT Michael Myers, DE John Engelberger, DE Raylee Johnson.
Pryce is back and he's switching from the strong side to the weak side end position, which could mean a boost in his sack total. Denver's last two weak-side ends, Bertrand Berry and Reggie Hayward, posted big seasons and cashed in as free agents. The Broncos want to see what Brown can do if he's healthy. Warren seems motivated after a tough stint in Cleveland. The Broncos are hoping the four former Browns -- Brown, Warren, Ekuban and Myers -- thrive in a new environment. The Broncos will have to cut a few players who have NFL experience because they have so many coming to camp.

SoCalBronco · 07-20-2005, 01:08 PM

LINEBACKERS: Starters -- WLB Ian Gold, MLB Al Wilson, SLB D.J. Williams. Backups: MLB Patrick Chukwurah, SLB/MLB Terry Pierce, OLB Jashon Sykes, MLB Keith Burns, OLB Louis Green, OLB Markus Steele.
Gold, Wilson and Williams give the Broncos one of the best linebacking units in the NFL. Gold and Williams are both natural weak-side linebackers so how the Broncos use them bears watching. Williams had a fantastic rookie season last year but has never played the strong side. Wilson is a stalwart in the middle, one of the best in the game. He is Denver's emotional leader on defense as well. The team hasn't figured out a place for Pierce, a 2003 second-round pick who has played very little on defense. Chukwurah got some playing time as a rush end in passing situations last year because he is very explosive off the snap. Burns is back for his third tour with the Broncos -- he's a special-teams ace and a good presence in the locker room.

DEFENSIVE BACKS: Starters -- CB Champ Bailey, CB Lenny Walls, SS Nick Ferguson, FS John Lynch. Backups -- CB Darrent Williams, CB Karl Paymah, CB Domonique Foxworth, CB Roc Alexander, CB Jeff Shoate, S Sam Brandon, S Chris Young, S Jeremy LeSueur, S/CB Brandon Browner.
The Broncos feel good about their starting corners, Walls and Bailey. Although Bailey had some tough games during first season in Denver, he's still one of the best in the league. Walls has potential but last year was a waste because of injuries. He played well two years ago as a starter. Ferguson will step in for Kenoy Kennedy, who signed with Detroit this offseason. Ferguson is a reckless tackler who has performed well when he has been a starter the past two seasons. Lynch is a good leader and is still solid although he's not as athletic as he was early in his career. Denver will try to find a nickel cornerback in training camp. That was a problem last season and the Broncos drafted corners with their first three picks in April to at least provide much needed depth. All three rookie cornerbacks have blazing speed.

SPECIAL TEAMS: K Jason Elam, P Todd Sauerbrun, KR/PR Darrent Williams, LS Mike Leach, LS Chris Myers, P/K Paul Ernster.
Sauerbrun and Elam give the Broncos one of the top kicker-punter combos in the NFL. Sauerbrun has been involved in plenty of off-field controversy, but is one of the best punters in football and should be a big help to the Broncos' mediocre special teams. Williams could provide similar help. Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said he wants Williams to be the top punt and kickoff returner. Denver doesn't have many great options after him, so his development in camp will be important.

SoCalBronco · 07-20-2005, 01:09 PM

it doesnt really provide anything new but it was a decent write up.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 07-20-2005, 01:12 PM

Decent - At least this one got the right players on the team.

Drek · 07-20-2005, 01:35 PM

I'm hoping we resolve the Pierce issue and the "where does Williams play?" issues with the same move, namely having Pierce play strong side on obvious running downs, Williams on weak, and Gold on the bench. Gold can earn his paycheck playing primarily passing downs and special teams.

SoCalBronco · 07-20-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Drek

I'm hoping we resolve the Pierce issue and the "where does Williams play?" issues with the same move, namely having Pierce play strong side on obvious running downs, Williams on weak, and Gold on the bench. Gold can earn his paycheck playing primarily passing downs and special teams.

But Pierce isnt effective as a SAM, period. He is a good run stuffer but only at Mike. As much as I would love Williams going back to WILL full time, it wouldnt make sense in terms of getting the best return on our investment in Ian to just have him play passing downs. Money is on the field all the time. I know its a sunk cost now but you gotta keep him on the field all the time to justify the investment.

TheReverend · 07-20-2005, 03:15 PM

Another good write up by Scout.com. ESPN should be hiring these guys and firing their own biased clowns.

Thanks for the article SoCal... but with the loss of Willie, Im worried about another Indy playoff game with Reggie Wayne matched up on Roc... even with Courtney in Peytons face all day, I dont want to see that... hell I like Roc, but were one injury away from having Roc as a starter and a Foxworth playing Nickel. Ive got a headache.

Old Dude · 07-20-2005, 03:23 PM

Good summary. Most objective one I've seen to date.

kent156 · 07-20-2005, 03:42 PM

ok who wrote that?

Cito Pelon · 07-20-2005, 04:48 PM

Nice writeup. Accurate, educated.

Mr. Trout · 07-20-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Another good write up by Scout.com. ESPN should be hiring these guys and firing their own biased clowns.

Thanks for the article SoCal... but with the loss of Willie, Im worried about another Indy playoff game with Reggie Wayne matched up on Roc... even with Courtney in Peytons face all day, I dont want to see that... hell I like Roc, but were one injury away from having Roc as a starter and a Foxworth playing Nickel. Ive got a headache.

Hopefully if we play indy again Walls is healthy and we can put him on Wayne. Champ on Harrison, and one of the rookies or Roc on Stokely.

dustybottoms · 07-20-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

it doesnt really provide anything new but it was a decent write up.

very decent, this is the only one I've read that has been actual, factual and real, he didn't go off about Dayne or Clarett. he understands them for what they are. He realizes that at least ONE 'Brownco' will have a career season, hopefully Warren. but a good opinion none the less...

although I don't see Cooper Carlise being pushed, he is capable he can do the job. being a no name doesn't hurt you as a bronco O lineman.

Rascal · 07-20-2005, 10:03 PM

Good write up. guard, 3rd WR, nickelback, and obviously RB are the big things to be determined in camp. Should be fun.

Seems like they liked, or at least recognized the potential, of the three CB's we drafted. Looking back on that day how many of us were screaming our heads off, but it looks like it was the smart thing to do with Middlebrooks and Herndon leaving and Walls having Satan as his agent.

fontaine · 07-21-2005, 03:04 AM

I thought it was a lame write up.

Since when did mere observation pass as "Analysis" ?

All the guy did was say what players are on the roster and how they did last year. There's was no analysis on their strengths/weaknesses for the upcoming season, especially for the new players.

watermock · 07-21-2005, 03:19 AM

I have never seen a post from Fontaine I agree with. You think that was "observation"?

It wasn't perfect, but better than the bile Burger Bill was throwing up. Why don't you write for the mane if you think your so smart, that would be amusing.

There were constant projections for the future. In fact, almost everything he said was forward based. Your an idiot.

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Since when did mere observation pass as "Analysis" ?

as opposed to what? assertion? When you look at the past, you project to the future, there was nothing about the past other than in reference to the future. Where exactly do you place observation as a tool to consider future performance? Second, how can you even claim observation as somthing that hasn't even happened. He's using reference points. God your a fool.

fontaine · 07-21-2005, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

I have never seen a post from Fontaine I agree with.

I know, it's great.

I'd be concerned if some beaten down, old, racist ass clown, who has a hobby of leering over his nieces, started to agree with my viewpoints.

watermock · 07-21-2005, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

I know, it's great.

I'd be concerned if some beaten down, old, racist ass clown, who has a hobby of leering over his nieces, started to agree with my viewpoints.

Look you Peon, I didn't start the insulting contest, you did. All I said is that you make stupid posts.

First, I'm not beaten down at all. I have 5,000 acres in the field an lines of credit.

Second, I'm 45, that's not old, unless your some snivled punk.

Third, I'm not a racist, I'm a realist.

Fourth, I take partiular exeception to think I "leer" at my neices. For you information, Lisa has been on the front pages. She hit a grand slam to win the game in the playoffs. **** off. I kinda care over my neices because there was a divorce. It's not my responsiblity. Your lewd and out of line.

Maybe I gave the wrong impression, but all I am doing as an Uncle is making sure they have everything they need. One is a dentist, another will be a Doctor, another is a star athlete. The fact remains they need some cover. So sue me.

Get bent.

fontaine · 07-21-2005, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

Look you Peon, I didn't start the insulting contest, you did. All I said is that you make stupid posts.

Oh really, scroll back a couple of posts and you'll see you responded to my post by calling me an idiot and then a fool just because you disagreed with my take.

As for the rest of your post, nobody gives a crap what your ignorant a$$ thinks, least of all me.

watermock · 07-21-2005, 04:47 AM

BTW, Lisa was on the front page again. She marks her eyes and is quite a specimen. There is a chance they might win the championship. There is another star on the team, Christensen, who is bad ass too. It's hard to scan off newspaper, but my neice is all over the local paper. She's an all star, starting point guard, AND SHE'S ONLY A FRESHMAN.

So back off.

Anyway, I was going to scan it, she is on the front page. it's hard to scan paper, or the thing is borken or I would show you.

fontaine · 07-21-2005, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

BTW, Lisa was on the front page again. She marks her eyes and is quite a specimen. There is a chance they might win the championship. There is another star on the team, Christensen, who is bad ass too. It's hard to scan off newspaper, but my neice is all over the local paper. She's an all star, starting point guard, AND SHE'S ONLY A FRESHMAN.

Good for her.

Now all she needs is for her drunken uncle to get his head outta his cats a$$, put down the bottle and stop posting every private detail of her life including her pictures and address, on a public message board for every random stranger to peruse.

But then again, it's impossible to reason with a drunk.

MileHighMania · 07-21-2005, 05:10 AM

I'm not sure that Fontaine was that off on his comment... it was more of a recap of last year. Just look at the receiver's comment.

"WIDE RECEIVERS: Starters -- Rod Smith, Ashley Lelie. Backups -- Darius Watts, Jerry Rice, Triandos Luke, Charlie Adams, B.J. Johnson.
Smith and Lelie each gained 1,000 yards last year, in much different ways. Smith is Plummer's go-to guy on underneath routes, and he's showing few signs of slowing down. He keeps his body in great shape. Lelie is one of the best deep threats in the league, but he hasn't helped the Broncos much across the middle in his two years as a starter. Watts started strong and faded last year, and this year he has Rice looking over his shoulder. Watts will probably be the third receiver but he has to show some consistency in camp. Luke had a few bright moments last year and goes into camp as the favorite to win the No. 5 receiver spot on the roster."

There were a couple of forward based comments with Rice and Watts.

After this analysis, I have no more clearer picture on the RB situation than I did prior to clicking the thread.

I'm not sure why Mock got so bent out of shape, maybe it's a personal thing between the 2, but I didn't see a whole lot of new stuff here.

OrangeShadow · 07-21-2005, 05:31 AM

not a great analysis but it sure was better than ESPN.

baja · 07-21-2005, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

Look you Peon, I didn't start the insulting contest, you did. All I said is that you make stupid posts.

First, I'm not beaten down at all. I have 5,000 acres in the field an lines of credit.

Second, I'm 45, that's not old, unless your some snivled punk.

Third, I'm not a racist, I'm a realist.

Fourth, I take partiular exeception to think I "leer" at my neices. For you information, Lisa has been on the front pages. She hit a grand slam to win the game in the playoffs. **** off. I kinda care over my neices because there was a divorce. It's not my responsiblity. Your lewd and out of line.

Maybe I gave the wrong impression, but all I am doing as an Uncle is making sure they have everything they need. One is a dentist, another will be a Doctor, another is a star athlete. The fact remains they need some cover. So sue me.

Get bent.

Well he didn't call then Brillo pads now did he.

bloodsunday · 07-21-2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scouts.com

Clarett and Dayne each are downhill runners that fit Denver's system

Well which is it? Scouts, Inc just said that Dayne wasn't a good fit for Denver's system. Why do we bother to even pay for this s**t? It's like reading fortune cookies or horiscopes. Through some general BS statements and listing of players on the roster against the wall and call it a magazine? WTF?

07-20-2005, 01:05 PM	#1
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Scout.com Broncos Unit by Unit Analysis Broncos Unit by Unit Analysis Quarterback Jake Plummer By Scout.com Date: Jul 20, 2005 Take a look at how each unit of the Denver Broncos shapes up as they head into the 2005 training camp. QUARTERBACK: Starter -- Jake Plummer. Backups -- Danny Kanell, Matt Mauck, Bradlee Van Pelt. Plummer took every snap for the Broncos last year, so the backup position never was an issue. But it will be looked at closely during training camp this year. Kanell has experience and comes into camp as the No. 2 quarterback. Mauck, a seventh-round pick last year, impressed the coaches with a solid camp last year and Van Pelt has the best athletic ability of the group. Kanell took a pay cut this offseason to help his chances of winning a job. Plummer's ups and downs are well known. He can be inconsistent and make bad decisions, but he set some franchise single-season passing records last season and has the full support of Mike Shanahan. RUNNING BACKS: Starters -- RB Tatum Bell, FB Kyle Johnson. Backups -- RB Mike Anderson, RB Quentin Griffin, RB Ron Dayne, RB Maurice Clarett, FB Cecil Sapp. Bell and Anderson split first-team reps in the offseason. Bell has the most potential of the five tailbacks that are competing for the starting job and is the favorite, but he's not a lock to start. Anderson is fully recovered from a season-ending groin injury last year and was playing very well in the preseason last year before he got hurt. He's tough and reliable. Griffin is still recovering from knee surgery last year. Clarett and Dayne each are downhill runners that fit Denver's system. Johnson was a pleasant surprise for the Broncos last year. Sapp, a successful college tailback, opened some eyes when he filled in for an injured Johnson late last season. TIGHT ENDS: Starter -- Jeb Putzier. Backups -- Patrick Hape, Stephen Alexander, Nate Jackson, Mike Leach. Putzier signed an offer sheet with the New York Jets this offseason, and the Broncos matched because they love Putzier's potential in their offense. Putzier can stretch the field and is one of the best deep threats at the position in the league. He is a former college receiver who creates matchup problems. He'll need to become a more consistent blocker. The Broncos hope teaming Putzier and Alexander in dual tight-end sets creates additional problems for defenses because both players have similar abilities and can line up anywhere on the field. Hape is a solid performer and always seems to find his way on the roster. Jackson is converting from receiver to tight end, where his size-speed combination might be a better fit. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

07-20-2005, 01:07 PM	#2
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	WIDE RECEIVERS: Starters -- Rod Smith, Ashley Lelie. Backups -- Darius Watts, Jerry Rice, Triandos Luke, Charlie Adams, B.J. Johnson. Smith and Lelie each gained 1,000 yards last year, in much different ways. Smith is Plummer's go-to guy on underneath routes, and he's showing few signs of slowing down. He keeps his body in great shape. Lelie is one of the best deep threats in the league, but he hasn't helped the Broncos much across the middle in his two years as a starter. Watts started strong and faded last year, and this year he has Rice looking over his shoulder. Watts will probably be the third receiver but he has to show some consistency in camp. Luke had a few bright moments last year and goes into camp as the favorite to win the No. 5 receiver spot on the roster. OFFENSIVE LINE: Starters -- LT Matt Lepsis, LG Ben Hamilton, C Tom Nalen, RG Cooper Carlisle, RT George Foster. Backups -- T Anthony Clement, T Dwayne Carswell, T Cornell Green, C Josh Sewell, C/G Chris Myers, G Tim Stuber, G Cameron Spikes, G Tyson Clabo. The only starter who might get pushed in camp is Carlisle. He was supposed to get some competition from P.J. Alexander but Alexander hurt his knee in an off-road vehicle accident and is out for the season. Former Cardinal Cameron Spikes could push for a starting job, but Carlisle should hold him off. Denver's tackles, Lepsis and Foster, are underrated. Lepsis is athletic and had a good year after switching from right to left tackle last year. Nalen is still the anchor of the line and the team likes Hamilton -- it signed him to a multi-year deal when he became an unrestricted free agent. There isn't a lot of depth. DEFENSIVE LINE: Starters -- SDE Courtney Brown, DT Gerard Warren, DT Mario Fatafehi, WDE Trevor Pryce. Backups -- DE Ebenezer Ekuban, DE Anton Palepoi, DT Monsanto Pope, DT Dorsett Davis, DT Luther Elliss, DE Marco Coleman, DE Chukie Nwokorie, DT Michael Myers, DE John Engelberger, DE Raylee Johnson. Pryce is back and he's switching from the strong side to the weak side end position, which could mean a boost in his sack total. Denver's last two weak-side ends, Bertrand Berry and Reggie Hayward, posted big seasons and cashed in as free agents. The Broncos want to see what Brown can do if he's healthy. Warren seems motivated after a tough stint in Cleveland. The Broncos are hoping the four former Browns -- Brown, Warren, Ekuban and Myers -- thrive in a new environment. The Broncos will have to cut a few players who have NFL experience because they have so many coming to camp. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

07-20-2005, 01:08 PM	#3
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	LINEBACKERS: Starters -- WLB Ian Gold, MLB Al Wilson, SLB D.J. Williams. Backups: MLB Patrick Chukwurah, SLB/MLB Terry Pierce, OLB Jashon Sykes, MLB Keith Burns, OLB Louis Green, OLB Markus Steele. Gold, Wilson and Williams give the Broncos one of the best linebacking units in the NFL. Gold and Williams are both natural weak-side linebackers so how the Broncos use them bears watching. Williams had a fantastic rookie season last year but has never played the strong side. Wilson is a stalwart in the middle, one of the best in the game. He is Denver's emotional leader on defense as well. The team hasn't figured out a place for Pierce, a 2003 second-round pick who has played very little on defense. Chukwurah got some playing time as a rush end in passing situations last year because he is very explosive off the snap. Burns is back for his third tour with the Broncos -- he's a special-teams ace and a good presence in the locker room. DEFENSIVE BACKS: Starters -- CB Champ Bailey, CB Lenny Walls, SS Nick Ferguson, FS John Lynch. Backups -- CB Darrent Williams, CB Karl Paymah, CB Domonique Foxworth, CB Roc Alexander, CB Jeff Shoate, S Sam Brandon, S Chris Young, S Jeremy LeSueur, S/CB Brandon Browner. The Broncos feel good about their starting corners, Walls and Bailey. Although Bailey had some tough games during first season in Denver, he's still one of the best in the league. Walls has potential but last year was a waste because of injuries. He played well two years ago as a starter. Ferguson will step in for Kenoy Kennedy, who signed with Detroit this offseason. Ferguson is a reckless tackler who has performed well when he has been a starter the past two seasons. Lynch is a good leader and is still solid although he's not as athletic as he was early in his career. Denver will try to find a nickel cornerback in training camp. That was a problem last season and the Broncos drafted corners with their first three picks in April to at least provide much needed depth. All three rookie cornerbacks have blazing speed. SPECIAL TEAMS: K Jason Elam, P Todd Sauerbrun, KR/PR Darrent Williams, LS Mike Leach, LS Chris Myers, P/K Paul Ernster. Sauerbrun and Elam give the Broncos one of the top kicker-punter combos in the NFL. Sauerbrun has been involved in plenty of off-field controversy, but is one of the best punters in football and should be a big help to the Broncos' mediocre special teams. Williams could provide similar help. Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said he wants Williams to be the top punt and kickoff returner. Denver doesn't have many great options after him, so his development in camp will be important. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

07-20-2005, 01:09 PM	#4
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	it doesnt really provide anything new but it was a decent write up. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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07-20-2005, 01:12 PM	#5
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Decent - At least this one got the right players on the team.

07-20-2005, 01:35 PM	#6
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,320	I'm hoping we resolve the Pierce issue and the "where does Williams play?" issues with the same move, namely having Pierce play strong side on obvious running downs, Williams on weak, and Gold on the bench. Gold can earn his paycheck playing primarily passing downs and special teams.

07-20-2005, 03:15 PM	#8
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Another good write up by Scout.com. ESPN should be hiring these guys and firing their own biased clowns. Thanks for the article SoCal... but with the loss of Willie, Im worried about another Indy playoff game with Reggie Wayne matched up on Roc... even with Courtney in Peytons face all day, I dont want to see that... hell I like Roc, but were one injury away from having Roc as a starter and a Foxworth playing Nickel. Ive got a headache.

07-20-2005, 03:23 PM	#9
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,158	Good summary. Most objective one I've seen to date.

07-20-2005, 03:42 PM	#10
kent156 King of the Ants Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paradise lost Posts: 685	ok who wrote that?

07-20-2005, 04:48 PM	#11
Cito Pelon Attack at all times . . . Happy dog at the Divide Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AFC West Championshipville Posts: 15,219 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Nice writeup. Accurate, educated.

07-20-2005, 10:03 PM	#14
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Good write up. guard, 3rd WR, nickelback, and obviously RB are the big things to be determined in camp. Should be fun. Seems like they liked, or at least recognized the potential, of the three CB's we drafted. Looking back on that day how many of us were screaming our heads off, but it looks like it was the smart thing to do with Middlebrooks and Herndon leaving and Walls having Satan as his agent.

07-21-2005, 03:04 AM	#15
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,429	I thought it was a lame write up. Since when did mere observation pass as "Analysis" ? All the guy did was say what players are on the roster and how they did last year. There's was no analysis on their strengths/weaknesses for the upcoming season, especially for the new players.

07-21-2005, 04:47 AM	#20
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	BTW, Lisa was on the front page again. She marks her eyes and is quite a specimen. There is a chance they might win the championship. There is another star on the team, Christensen, who is bad ass too. It's hard to scan off newspaper, but my neice is all over the local paper. She's an all star, starting point guard, AND SHE'S ONLY A FRESHMAN. So back off. Anyway, I was going to scan it, she is on the front page. it's hard to scan paper, or the thing is borken or I would show you.

07-21-2005, 05:10 AM	#22
MileHighMania Smile and wave, boys Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tejas Posts: 1,073	I'm not sure that Fontaine was that off on his comment... it was more of a recap of last year. Just look at the receiver's comment. "WIDE RECEIVERS: Starters -- Rod Smith, Ashley Lelie. Backups -- Darius Watts, Jerry Rice, Triandos Luke, Charlie Adams, B.J. Johnson. Smith and Lelie each gained 1,000 yards last year, in much different ways. Smith is Plummer's go-to guy on underneath routes, and he's showing few signs of slowing down. He keeps his body in great shape. Lelie is one of the best deep threats in the league, but he hasn't helped the Broncos much across the middle in his two years as a starter. Watts started strong and faded last year, and this year he has Rice looking over his shoulder. Watts will probably be the third receiver but he has to show some consistency in camp. Luke had a few bright moments last year and goes into camp as the favorite to win the No. 5 receiver spot on the roster." There were a couple of forward based comments with Rice and Watts. After this analysis, I have no more clearer picture on the RB situation than I did prior to clicking the thread. I'm not sure why Mock got so bent out of shape, maybe it's a personal thing between the 2, but I didn't see a whole lot of new stuff here.

07-21-2005, 05:31 AM	#23
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	not a great analysis but it sure was better than ESPN.