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Old 07-09-2005, 09:54 AM   #1
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1.- To admit anyone under the age of 18 into the course as minors are totally prohibited from running or participating.

2.- To go over the police barriers which the authorities see fit to erect.

3.- To place oneself in the zones and areas of the itinerary which are expressly indicated by the agents of the authorities.

4.- To hide oneself before the release of the bulls in corners, dead angles or doorways of houses or establishments located throughout the length of the course.

5.- To leave open the doors of the houses along the course, the owners or tenants of the said property being responsible for this.

6.- To enter into the route in a state of drunkenness, under the effects of drugs or in any inappropriate state.

7.- To carry objects which may impede the correct running of the Bull Run.

8.- To wear clothes or shoes which are not appropriate for the run.

9.- Call the animals or distract them in any way and for whatever reason in the course or during the rounding up in the Bull Ring.

10.- To stop in the Bull Run or station oneself on the walls or barriers or in the doorways in such a way as to impede the run or the defence of the runners.

11.- To grab onto, harass or mistreat the animals or obstruct their exit enclosure by any action during the amateur bullfight.

12.- To take photographs from the streets, walls or barriers without due authorisation.

13.- Any other action which may impede the normal running of the Bull Run.
14. Don't get gored.
15. Run Fast.


Looks like fun!

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Are you going to do it again next year dude?
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Gotta have some juevos to do that sober.

On the other hand, I've noticed through the years 90% of the runners "hide oneself before the release of the bulls in corners, dead angles or doorways of houses or establishments located throughout the length of the course", and never leave that hiding place until the bulls are past them.

Ya gotta have some courage to jump out there and run ahead of them. On cobblestones, or that's how it used to be. It looks from the pics that the streets are more smoothly paved these days.

Did you run Bronx?
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Gotta have some juevos to do that sober.

On the other hand, I've noticed through the years 90% of the runners "hide oneself before the release of the bulls in corners, dead angles or doorways of houses or establishments located throughout the length of the course", and never leave that hiding place until the bulls are past them.

Ya gotta have some courage to jump out there and run ahead of them. On cobblestones, or that's how it used to be. It looks from the pics that the streets are more smoothly paved these days.

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One time an expensive Holstien Bull charged me. I jumped in time over the fence and the animal broke a RAILROAD TIE. The corral was made out of railroad ties with railroad stuff to make it, like spikes and huge nails. I'm taliing huge nails.

This Orange monster almost got me, it's not the first time my life has almost ended. I hopped over and this monster charged into a fence, literally breaking it, and knocking himself out. We had that corral bulletproof. It was considered too dangerous. It was put down. It was a very expensive animal but was dangerous. It was a fine genetic animal, but had allready attacked. Once an animal gets a taste that it can kick your ass, the odds it will do it again raise exponentially. If you can't handle it without guns, it's worthless. It was a prize bull, but so mean it would literally amaze you. He chased me out of a railroad tie corral. And cracked the railroad tie. This isn't a 2x4 we are talking about.

In related news, since I'm considered a puppy hater, I heard my Lab dog next door crying, I figured he was cussing at my cat, but he was panting. So I hosed him. Everyone seemed to be gone so I gave the thing some water. It's super hot here right now.

No I gave him water, then hosed him. Now he's my buddy. Even after I hosed him.
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One time an expensive Holstien Bull charged me. I jumped in time over the fence and the animal broke a RAILROAD TIE. The corral was made out of railroad ties with railroad stuff to make it, like spikes and huge nails. I'm taliing huge nails.

This Orange monster almost got me, it's not the first time my life has almost ended. I hopped over and this monster charged into a fence, literally breaking it, and knocking himself out. We had that corral bulletproof. It was considered too dangerous. It was put down. It was a very expensive animal but was dangerous. It was a fine genetic animal, but had allready attacked. Once an animal gets a taste that it can kick your ass, the odds it will do it again raise exponentially. If you can't handle it without guns, it's worthless. It was a prize bull, but so mean it would literally amaze you. He chased me out of a railroad tie corral. And cracked the railroad tie. This isn't a 2x4 we are talking about.

In related news, since I'm considered a puppy hater, I heard my Lab dog next door crying, I figured he was cussing at my cat, but he was panting. So I hosed him. Everyone seemed to be gone so I gave the thing some water. It's super hot here right now.

No I gave him water, then hosed him. Now he's my buddy. Even after I hosed him.
My uncle decided one year he was going to get a bull and change crops to have feed for this herd he was going to build. He built a pipe fence, it lasted one night. From what I've heard there's only one way to control a bull - a nose-ring.

I hose my Lab down at least once every day. She hates it except on her belly and chest, but she definitely needs it to stay cool.
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Old 07-09-2005, 01:25 PM   #7
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Didn't get tempted? Had a temptation to jump the fence? If you had a few colds, would you have risked it?
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I root for the bulls on the streets of Pamplona, just as a root for them in the bullring or the rodeo.
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I root for the bulls on the streets of Pamplona, just as a root for them in the bullring or the rodeo.
I've always rooted for the bulls in the bullring. I figure if you have to have a team of guys come out on armored horses to first bleed the bulls, then once the bulls are weakened, have a team of guys come out and wind them, the bullfighter is all show. I realize the bullfighter isn't out there fighting nothing, but still . . . .

I admire the guys in Pamplona that actually jump out there in front of the bulls and taunt them right to the point where the horns are on their ass then try to find cover. That takes courage.
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I may be a little sick but I've always wanted to run with the bulls over there. I think it looks like a real rush. One of these years I'm going to do it. Come to think of it I should get over there and do it while I still have some decent wheels.
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The bulls in the bullring sicken me. I think that's very unsportsmanlike of them to completely weaken the bull before the fighters get out there, not to mention cruel.

At least in bullriding, the bulls are usually the ones doin' the ass kickin'. I admit, I do love to watch bullriding though. It's the steer wrestling that really gets me. The way they twist those steers necks..I'd crap if I ever witnessed something actually happen to one. I know it does, but I'm glad I've never seen it.
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The bulls in the bullring sicken me. I think that's very unsportsmanlike of them to completely weaken the bull before the fighters get out there,
Read Michener's "Mexico." Good stuff about bullfighting.
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The bulls in the bullring sicken me. I think that's very unsportsmanlike of them to completely weaken the bull before the fighters get out there, not to mention cruel.

At least in bullriding, the bulls are usually the ones doin' the ass kickin'. I admit, I do love to watch bullriding though. It's the steer wrestling that really gets me. The way they twist those steers necks..I'd crap if I ever witnessed something actually happen to one. I know it does, but I'm glad I've never seen it.
I have no use for the rodeo. Steer wrestling is cruel and unnecessary. I also have no problem with any brain dead hick getting tossed 20 feet into the air by some bull who's just had his nuts shocked with a cattle prod. Seems like a perfectly justified reaction, so I don't lose any sleep when one of those guys lands on his empty head.
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Read Michener's "Mexico." Good stuff about bullfighting.
Death in the Afternoon to me is still the signature piece on this topic.

To make up your mind about the 'sportsmanship' or any other aspect of bullfighting prior to personally watching a number of bullfights or reading the aforementioned books....is making an ill-informed decision.
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Death in the Afternoon to me is still the signature piece on this topic.

To make up your mind about the 'sportsmanship' or any other aspect of bullfighting prior to personally watching a number of bullfights or reading the aforementioned books....is making an ill-informed decision.

We studied enough of it, and saw enough videos in Spanish class for me to make my "ill formed" decision.
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Death in the Afternoon to me is still the signature piece on this topic.

To make up your mind about the 'sportsmanship' or any other aspect of bullfighting prior to personally watching a number of bullfights or reading the aforementioned books....is making an ill-informed decision.
Right. I'll go witness that bloodthirsty spectacle a few times before making up my mind. Maybe see some dogfights and cockfights, too.

I would hope to see a fatal goring, but they've set up such a rigged game that the bulls don't have a snowball's chance in hell.
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Death in the Afternoon to me is still the signature piece on this topic.

To make up your mind about the 'sportsmanship' or any other aspect of bullfighting prior to personally watching a number of bullfights or reading the aforementioned books....is making an ill-informed decision.
Have you read Michener's "Mexico"?
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Have you read Michener's "Mexico"?
Have you ever Read "The Sun Also Rises" ?

Its about many other things than just the bullfights, but during the Bullfights and the Festival, it did a good job of really putting you in IT.
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Have you ever Read "The Sun Also Rises" ?

Its about many other things than just the bullfights, but during the Bullfights and the Festival, it did a good job of really putting you in IT.
Oh yeah, I've read it. Check out Michener's "Mexico". Gives you a little more perspective. It's interesting reading. You'll thank me if you take the effort to read it.
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Death in the Afternoon to me is still the signature piece on this topic.

To make up your mind about the 'sportsmanship' or any other aspect of bullfighting prior to personally watching a number of bullfights or reading the aforementioned books....is making an ill-informed decision.
Death In the Afternoon. Remind me of who, what, where. I'll check it out.
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Oh yeah, I've read it. Check out Michener's "Mexico". Gives you a little more perspective. It's interesting reading. You'll thank me if you take the effort to read it.
Yeah, Michener's alittle weird, I either Really Like the Book, or I feel like I'm reading an old text book. I think it really depends on what HE'S pasionate about.

I will definitely check out the book.

As far as the The Sun Also Rises goes I think it is one of the VERY best books I have ever read. I've read about 5 times. I read again every few years, and still get new stuff from it.
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Right. I'll go witness that bloodthirsty spectacle a few times before making up my mind. Maybe see some dogfights and corkfights, too.

I would hope to see a fatal goring, but they've set up such a rigged game that the bulls don't have a snowball's chance in hell.
Been quite a few fatal gorings, despite the efforts to weaken the bulls aforehand. It's not something you wake up one day and decide you'll do. There's a lot of skill to it, and the best actually do insist the bull be weakened as little as possible.

Naturally, there's a lot of hackers out there. Same as with everything, no?
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Yeah, Michener's alittle weird, I either Really Like the Book, or I feel like I'm reading an old text book. I think it really depends on what HE'S pasionate about.

I will definitely check out the book.

As far as the The Sun Also Rises goes I think it is one of the VERY best books I have ever read. I've read about 5 times. I read again every few years, and still get new stuff from it.
Michener, you have to keep cross-checking him, because he gets vague in some areas. You have to have read quite a bit of stuff to fill in what he alludes to. Michener makes deliberate mistakes, so the reader will do their own research. He's an excellent historian that will take you from ground-zero to present.

Michener is good, real good. I'll recommend his books to anyone.
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Been quite a few fatal gorings, despite the efforts to weaken the bulls aforehand. It's not something you wake up one day and decide you'll do. There's a lot of skill to it, and the best actually do insist the bull be weakened as little as possible.

Naturally, there's a lot of hackers out there. Same as with everything, no?

Well I think the best should have to prove they are the best and go with NO weakening of the bull. That would be proof they were the best IMO.
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Death in the Afternoon to me is still the signature piece on this topic.

To make up your mind about the 'sportsmanship' or any other aspect of bullfighting prior to personally watching a number of bullfights or reading the aforementioned books....is making an ill-informed decision.
You've been at a bullfight??
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