Proof: Men are Pussies and Women Rule - OT - The Orange Mane

bendog · 07-08-2005, 07:12 AM

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California woman is suing a hospital for wrongful death because her husband fainted and suffered a fatal injury after helping delivery room staff give her a pain-killing injection.

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Jeanette Passalaqua, 32, filed the suit against Kaiser Foundation Hospitals and Southern California Permanente Medical Group Inc. in San Bernardino County state court last week.

In June 2004, Passalaqua's husband, Steven Passalaqua, was asked by Kaiser staff to hold and steady his wife while an employee inserted an epidural needle into her back, court papers said.

The sight of the needle caused Steven Passalaqua, 33, to faint and he fell backward, striking his head on an aluminum cap molding at the base of the wall.

Jeanette Passalaqua delivered the couple's second child, a boy, later that day. Steven Passalaqua, however, suffered a brain hemorrhage as a result of his fall and died two days later, the lawsuit said.

The suit seeks unspecified damages related to Steven Passalaqua's death and to Jeanette Passalaqua's emotional distress at being widowed with two young children.

Because Passalaqua was solicited by Kaiser to assist in the epidural, the lawsuit said, the hospital "owed him a duty to exercise reasonable care to prevent foreseeable injuries resulting from his participation."

A spokesman for Oakland, California-based Kaiser Permanente called the death "a tragic accident."

"Some of the allegations in the lawsuit are simply that -- allegations. The legal process is under way and we should respect that," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/life_epid...BhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

Rohirrim · 07-08-2005, 07:19 AM

I stood by my wife through 3 deliveries, from start to finish, including the epidurals and replacing the towels, snipping the umbilicals, checking out the placenta, etc. Then I wiped up enough meconium to fill a bucket. Big deal. Life is messy. Geeez.

bendog · 07-08-2005, 07:23 AM

True story. The group that delivered little girl dog had a policy that husbands has to leave the room for the epidural cause they'd had experience with them freaking out when they saw the long needle. I told them, 'ok, but she was walking when she came in, and she better be walking when we go home, cause we're lawyers." They were not amused, no senses of humor at all.

MT-Tdawg · 07-08-2005, 07:46 AM

I heard about this on the Freak News this morning. Poor guy. If I ever have a kid I'll be like "you can take it from here honey.." No way am i touching a foot long needle.

bendog · 07-08-2005, 07:55 AM

Absolutely. I didn't even want to be in the delivery room. Some things men just don't need to know. Worse thing was the kid was born on a very early sunday night, and I couldn't buy hard likker till Monday at 10am. I left the hospital, went to the bar and had two shots of Jack, and then went home to shave.

MT-Tdawg · 07-08-2005, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendog

Absolutely. I didn't even want to be in the delivery room. Some things men just don't need to know. Worse thing was the kid was born on a very early sunday night, and I couldn't buy hard likker till Monday at 10am. I left the hospital, went to the bar and had two shots of Jack, and then went home to shave.

When all the messy stuff I don't need to see is about to happen, I'm gonna be lookin for a hotdog vendor in that hospital...

Tredici · 07-08-2005, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT-Tdawg

When all the messy stuff I don't need to see is about to happen, I'm gonna be lookin for a hotdog vendor in that hospital...

If you wouldn't have been vending your hotdog in the first place....

rofl

bendog · 07-08-2005, 08:18 AM

Seeing my daughter was the absolutely biggest moment I will ever have, unless seeing a grandkid is better. I don't know whether the "modern" way of delivering with the father there makes the experience better or worse. My biggest role was getting a nurse when Mrs Dog wanted more drugs during labor. Nurse, "she's not ready." Me, "Listen to me, you don't know her, give her what she wants or she's gonna hurt somebody in that room, and it ain't gonna be me cause I'm running away."

I held a leg at one pt. It wasn't really all that gross. And the doctor was absolutely hilarious in his ego trip. The nurses do all the work, predictably. Carrying my daughter down to the room where they weigh them and and stuff was really cool.

Garcia Bronco · 07-08-2005, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredici

If you wouldn't have been vending your hotdog in the first place....

rofl

Uggg Frank Footer...

redrage · 07-08-2005, 08:26 AM

With my third child, the doctor actually asked if I wanted to catch my daughter. I took her head, helped it turn and out she came!! Placed her on mom's lap, wiped off my hands and cut the umbilical cord.

Garcia Bronco · 07-08-2005, 08:27 AM

What a ridiculous lawsuit. While I feel sorry for the family, you can't expect the hospital to be responsible for that. It's a freak accident, and all the money in the world isn't going to bring her husband back.

footstepsfrom#27 · 07-08-2005, 08:32 AM

If you've never had the experience of being there, you'll never understand what you missed. I had to hang onto her for THREE epidurals, because the first two did not "take", whatever that means. But I'll never forget the first moments when my daughters were born. AWESOME experience.

Glad I'm a man.

watermock · 07-08-2005, 08:52 AM

"The sight of the needle caused Steven Passalaqua, 33, to faint and he fell backward,striking his head on an aluminum cap molding at the base of the wall."

You reap what you sow. It's a snapshot about all that is wrong with the medical society. First, why is this moron even even asked to help the delivery? They deserve to be sued. Seriously, this clown couldn't buck up and do his duty to his baby and wife. He busts his head on a ledge and dies?

Unreal. I'm sorry but that story is priceless. I can't stand blood, but I can do it if some soldier is down. I will look right in his guts, shoot him with morphine, drag him if I can out of fire. I will hold my guts to keep bleeding down or rip off something my own uniform to tie an artery down.

I'm not even close to being a doctor, but I can buck up. If I find a bad car accident, I'm fairly confident I can administer first aid without fainting. You simply buck up and be a man.

It's not even an option what to do. One time we were partying and there was a broken glass, and I stumbled on it out of stupidity. This chick fainted on the spot. So I get it, but I just cut off my shirt and made a tourniquet, then poured peroxide on the gash. Then I cracked a Coors and took a Bong hit.

I don't think I ever even had it stiched.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 07-08-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I stood by my wife through 3 deliveries, from start to finish, including the epidurals and replacing the towels, snipping the umbilicals, checking out the placenta, etc. Then I wiped up enough meconium to fill a bucket. Big deal. Life is messy. Geeez.

Yep - I was in the operating room for two c-sections after prolonged labor. No fun, but the thrill of holding my daughters for the first time and going through the paranoid counting of fingers and toes, is something I will never forget.

Tom H. · 07-08-2005, 10:05 AM

I thought it was funny that I couldn't be in the room when my wife had her epidural injection. But when she had an emergency c-section I was there to see most of it. I didn't blink once.

Why couldn't the anesthesiologist wait for some staff help before wielding the needle? Some people just have a problem with the stuff.

Rohirrim · 07-08-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Guy

Yep - I was in the operating room for two c-sections after prolonged labor. No fun, but the thrill of holding my daughters for the first time and going through the paranoid counting of fingers and toes, is something I will never forget.

Nothing will ever replace those moments when I heard that first sound from my three boys. It was like a benediction from life itself. In the top of the highlights of my life, along with our wedding.

When my first son was born, I was holding my wife's leg up and looking down as he emerged. The OB left him on hold there for a second, this little blue head just hanging there. Very strange moment for me. Like something out of Alien.

Hotrod · 07-08-2005, 10:09 AM

I was there for that and had no problem with the needle. It looked to me like it was about 3 feet long. Still I had no problem. They had me help by keeping the wife steady. I will say after seeing how long the needle is I dont ever want one myself.

Just a side note Hotrods still in the doghouse for falling asleep durning parts of the labor process

Rock Chalk · 07-08-2005, 10:12 AM

BEER vs. p***Y: THE PLAYOFF
1. Beer is always wet. p***Y needs a little work. -
One point to BEER

2. Warm beer tastes awful. - One point to p***Y

3. A really cold beer is satisfying. - One point to
BEER

4. If after taking a swig of your favorite beer you
find a hair between your teeth, you may vomit. - One
point to p***Y

5. Ten beers in one night and you can't drive home.
Ten Pussies in one night and you don't want to drive
anywhere. - One point to p***Y

6. If you have a lot of beer in a public place, your
reputation may suffer. If you eat any p***Y in
public, you become a legend. - One point to p***Y

7. If a cop stops you and you smell of beer you may
get arrested. If you smell of p***Y he may buy you a
beer. - One point to p***Y

8. You normally don't find old beer. - One point to
BEER

9. Too much beer and you'll think you see flying
saucers. Too much p***Y and you'll think you've seen
God. - One point to p***Y

10. In most countries there's a tax on beer. - One
point to p***Y

11. If you have another beer the first one never
gets pissed off - One point to BEER

12. You can always be sure if you're the first one
to open a bottle or can. - One point to BEER

13. If you shake beer it'll get all agitated but it
eventually it settles down. - One point to BEER

14. You always know how much beer is going to cost -
One point to BEER

15. Beer doesn't have a mother - One point to BEER

16. Beer never expects to be hugged for half an hour
after you've drank it - One point to BEER

FINAL SCORE: BEER 9 - p***Y 7

That's it! The matter is settled, the clear winner
is: BEER

JPEZ · 07-08-2005, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrod

Just a side note Hotrods still in the doghouse for falling asleep durning parts of the labor process

How about during the........conception process!

MT-Tdawg · 07-08-2005, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

BEER vs. p***Y: THE PLAYOFF
15. Beer doesn't have a mother - One point to BEER

That should be worth at least 6 points.

Hotrod · 07-08-2005, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPEZ

How about during the........conception process!

Nope wide awake and she had my full attention

They should never put that damn couch in the delivery room. Its just too much temptation for us fellas.

DBroncos4life · 07-08-2005, 10:27 AM

Ok not once was I scared or really was I ever that sick during my wifes delivery. The only time I thought something was sick is when they cut open the placenta, and that was because of the smell. That needle was long but I thought it looked more like string then a needle.

Tredici · 07-08-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

BEER vs. p***Y: THE PLAYOFF
1. Beer is always wet. p***Y needs a little work. -
One point to BEER

2. Warm beer tastes awful. - One point to p***Y

3. A really cold beer is satisfying. - One point to
BEER

4. If after taking a swig of your favorite beer you
find a hair between your teeth, you may vomit. - One
point to p***Y

5. Ten beers in one night and you can't drive home.
Ten Pussies in one night and you don't want to drive
anywhere. - One point to p***Y

6. If you have a lot of beer in a public place, your
reputation may suffer. If you eat any p***Y in
public, you become a legend. - One point to p***Y

7. If a cop stops you and you smell of beer you may
get arrested. If you smell of p***Y he may buy you a
beer. - One point to p***Y

8. You normally don't find old beer. - One point to
BEER

9. Too much beer and you'll think you see flying
saucers. Too much p***Y and you'll think you've seen
God. - One point to p***Y

10. In most countries there's a tax on beer. - One
point to p***Y

11. If you have another beer the first one never
gets pissed off - One point to BEER

12. You can always be sure if you're the first one
to open a bottle or can. - One point to BEER

13. If you shake beer it'll get all agitated but it
eventually it settles down. - One point to BEER

14. You always know how much beer is going to cost -
One point to BEER

15. Beer doesn't have a mother - One point to BEER

16. Beer never expects to be hugged for half an hour
after you've drank it - One point to BEER

FINAL SCORE: BEER 9 - p***Y 7

That's it! The matter is settled, the clear winner
is: BEER

Think how much happier you will be just sticking (no reminder of what you will be missing pun) with the winner. Until death do you part.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 07-08-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

That needle was long but I thought it looked more like string then a needle.

Like all of us who have been there, you were just delerious by that time.

Rock Chalk · 07-08-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredici

Think how much happier you will be just sticking (no reminder of what you will be missing pun) with the winner. Until death do you part.

Personally I would have weighted the answers.

p***Y wouldnt have pulled as many victories, but the victories it did win would be worth more.

07-08-2005, 07:12 AM	#1
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Proof: Men are Pussies and Women Rule - OT LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California woman is suing a hospital for wrongful death because her husband fainted and suffered a fatal injury after helping delivery room staff give her a pain-killing injection. ADVERTISEMENT Jeanette Passalaqua, 32, filed the suit against Kaiser Foundation Hospitals and Southern California Permanente Medical Group Inc. in San Bernardino County state court last week. In June 2004, Passalaqua's husband, Steven Passalaqua, was asked by Kaiser staff to hold and steady his wife while an employee inserted an epidural needle into her back, court papers said. The sight of the needle caused Steven Passalaqua, 33, to faint and he fell backward, striking his head on an aluminum cap molding at the base of the wall. Jeanette Passalaqua delivered the couple's second child, a boy, later that day. Steven Passalaqua, however, suffered a brain hemorrhage as a result of his fall and died two days later, the lawsuit said. The suit seeks unspecified damages related to Steven Passalaqua's death and to Jeanette Passalaqua's emotional distress at being widowed with two young children. Because Passalaqua was solicited by Kaiser to assist in the epidural, the lawsuit said, the hospital "owed him a duty to exercise reasonable care to prevent foreseeable injuries resulting from his participation." A spokesman for Oakland, California-based Kaiser Permanente called the death "a tragic accident." "Some of the allegations in the lawsuit are simply that -- allegations. The legal process is under way and we should respect that," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/life_epid...BhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

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07-08-2005, 07:19 AM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,843	I stood by my wife through 3 deliveries, from start to finish, including the epidurals and replacing the towels, snipping the umbilicals, checking out the placenta, etc. Then I wiped up enough meconium to fill a bucket. Big deal. Life is messy. Geeez.

07-08-2005, 07:23 AM	#3
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	True story. The group that delivered little girl dog had a policy that husbands has to leave the room for the epidural cause they'd had experience with them freaking out when they saw the long needle. I told them, 'ok, but she was walking when she came in, and she better be walking when we go home, cause we're lawyers." They were not amused, no senses of humor at all.

07-08-2005, 07:46 AM	#4
MT-Tdawg TIMAY!!! Adopt a Bronco: BIG AL #56 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 348	I heard about this on the Freak News this morning. Poor guy. If I ever have a kid I'll be like "you can take it from here honey.." No way am i touching a foot long needle.

07-08-2005, 07:55 AM	#5
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Absolutely. I didn't even want to be in the delivery room. Some things men just don't need to know. Worse thing was the kid was born on a very early sunday night, and I couldn't buy hard likker till Monday at 10am. I left the hospital, went to the bar and had two shots of Jack, and then went home to shave.

07-08-2005, 08:18 AM	#8
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Seeing my daughter was the absolutely biggest moment I will ever have, unless seeing a grandkid is better. I don't know whether the "modern" way of delivering with the father there makes the experience better or worse. My biggest role was getting a nurse when Mrs Dog wanted more drugs during labor. Nurse, "she's not ready." Me, "Listen to me, you don't know her, give her what she wants or she's gonna hurt somebody in that room, and it ain't gonna be me cause I'm running away." I held a leg at one pt. It wasn't really all that gross. And the doctor was absolutely hilarious in his ego trip. The nurses do all the work, predictably. Carrying my daughter down to the room where they weigh them and and stuff was really cool.

07-08-2005, 08:26 AM	#10
redrage Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 825	With my third child, the doctor actually asked if I wanted to catch my daughter. I took her head, helped it turn and out she came!! Placed her on mom's lap, wiped off my hands and cut the umbilical cord.

07-08-2005, 08:27 AM	#11
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	What a ridiculous lawsuit. While I feel sorry for the family, you can't expect the hospital to be responsible for that. It's a freak accident, and all the money in the world isn't going to bring her husband back.

07-08-2005, 08:32 AM	#12
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	If you've never had the experience of being there, you'll never understand what you missed. I had to hang onto her for THREE epidurals, because the first two did not "take", whatever that means. But I'll never forget the first moments when my daughters were born. AWESOME experience. Glad I'm a man.

07-08-2005, 08:52 AM	#13
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	"The sight of the needle caused Steven Passalaqua, 33, to faint and he fell backward,striking his head on an aluminum cap molding at the base of the wall." You reap what you sow. It's a snapshot about all that is wrong with the medical society. First, why is this moron even even asked to help the delivery? They deserve to be sued. Seriously, this clown couldn't buck up and do his duty to his baby and wife. He busts his head on a ledge and dies? Unreal. I'm sorry but that story is priceless. I can't stand blood, but I can do it if some soldier is down. I will look right in his guts, shoot him with morphine, drag him if I can out of fire. I will hold my guts to keep bleeding down or rip off something my own uniform to tie an artery down. I'm not even close to being a doctor, but I can buck up. If I find a bad car accident, I'm fairly confident I can administer first aid without fainting. You simply buck up and be a man. It's not even an option what to do. One time we were partying and there was a broken glass, and I stumbled on it out of stupidity. This chick fainted on the spot. So I get it, but I just cut off my shirt and made a tourniquet, then poured peroxide on the gash. Then I cracked a Coors and took a Bong hit. I don't think I ever even had it stiched.

07-08-2005, 10:05 AM	#15
Tom H. Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 463	I thought it was funny that I couldn't be in the room when my wife had her epidural injection. But when she had an emergency c-section I was there to see most of it. I didn't blink once. Why couldn't the anesthesiologist wait for some staff help before wielding the needle? Some people just have a problem with the stuff.

07-08-2005, 10:09 AM	#17
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I was there for that and had no problem with the needle. It looked to me like it was about 3 feet long. Still I had no problem. They had me help by keeping the wife steady. I will say after seeing how long the needle is I dont ever want one myself. Just a side note Hotrods still in the doghouse for falling asleep durning parts of the labor process

07-08-2005, 10:12 AM	#18
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	BEER vs. p*Y: THE PLAYOFF 1. Beer is always wet. pY needs a little work. - One point to BEER 2. Warm beer tastes awful. - One point to pY 3. A really cold beer is satisfying. - One point to BEER 4. If after taking a swig of your favorite beer you find a hair between your teeth, you may vomit. - One point to pY 5. Ten beers in one night and you can't drive home. Ten Pussies in one night and you don't want to drive anywhere. - One point to pY 6. If you have a lot of beer in a public place, your reputation may suffer. If you eat any pY in public, you become a legend. - One point to pY 7. If a cop stops you and you smell of beer you may get arrested. If you smell of pY he may buy you a beer. - One point to pY 8. You normally don't find old beer. - One point to BEER 9. Too much beer and you'll think you see flying saucers. Too much pY and you'll think you've seen God. - One point to pY 10. In most countries there's a tax on beer. - One point to pY 11. If you have another beer the first one never gets pissed off - One point to BEER 12. You can always be sure if you're the first one to open a bottle or can. - One point to BEER 13. If you shake beer it'll get all agitated but it eventually it settles down. - One point to BEER 14. You always know how much beer is going to cost - One point to BEER 15. Beer doesn't have a mother - One point to BEER 16. Beer never expects to be hugged for half an hour after you've drank it - One point to BEER FINAL SCORE: BEER 9 - p**Y 7 That's it! The matter is settled, the clear winner is: BEER

07-08-2005, 10:27 AM	#22
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,580	Ok not once was I scared or really was I ever that sick during my wifes delivery. The only time I thought something was sick is when they cut open the placenta, and that was because of the smell. That needle was long but I thought it looked more like string then a needle.