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Obviously, It'll Be His First Time There
Chances are he will do somthing stupid ..........
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06-21-2005, 09:19 PM
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First time there? What are you talkin' about, dude? GeeDubya is a bona fide war hero who won a whole bunch of medals during the Viet Nam war 'n' stuff. You must be thinking of John Kerry, that guy who deserted from his ANG unit. What's your problem, anyway? Don't you follow Fox News, man?  |
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06-22-2005, 05:52 AM
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06-22-2005, 05:55 AM
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But naw , am not worried about Bush doing that ......... I am worried about a WMD issue though ....Bush does have a serious Problem with being truthfull |
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06-22-2005, 05:59 AM
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And did you vote for the wounded World War II hero Bob Dole...or that same aformentioned draft dodger in '96? I wonder if GW will visit that communist museum that has John Kerry's picture framed and protected like it were the national treasure? OH, BTW....did you know that John Francois Kerry is the only congressman that is a national hero of two seperate nations? The US (won bronze star in Vietnam) and N. Vietnam (help destroy the US military almost singlehandedly) |
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06-22-2005, 06:06 AM
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06-22-2005, 06:15 AM
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As far as the WMD issue.....every single nation (GB, Germany, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Russia, etc.) that had intel on Iraq said Saddam had WMD's.....if all of them said he didn't have them, and the US was the only nation that said he did, then you'd probably have a point that he "lied"... To call him a liar about WMD's means that anyone who claimed Saddam had them were also lying..... .....and even though I can't stand your god Bill Clinton or his flunkies like Kerry, and the rest of the Dems in Congress....I doubt very seriously that they too lied when they claimed Saddam had them in '98-'99. I think they, like GW after them, believed the intel they were given, and came to the right conclusion that this idiot did possess them, and was a threat to use them sooner or later. You, on the other hand, think they told the truth about Saddam having them as late as 2000....but got rid of them in '01, and that GW lied about them existing just to make Haliburton rich. Now honestly Spider...do you really think that's what happened? And if you do....why haven't you sought professional help yet? |
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06-22-2005, 06:17 AM
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06-22-2005, 06:20 AM
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Was Bill Clinton not a draft dodger? Were George Bush41 and Bob Dole not heroes from WWII? Does John Kerry's photo not hang in a museum built by the communists to honor those that helped them to win the Vietnam War? Or am I ignorant in thinking that the museum will be open to foriegn dignitaries like the President of the US? |
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06-22-2005, 06:41 AM
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...where did you find the name John Kerry in this post? But since you want testimony of this implication you found in a post that mentioned no one's name.....ever hear of Rear Admiral William Schachte Jr.? He was the man in command when Kerry was wounded the first time in Vietnam...according to him, Kerry's wounds that day were the result of him being an idiot misfiring an M-79 (I mistakenly referred to the weapon as an M-2) |
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06-22-2005, 06:45 AM
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06-22-2005, 06:49 AM
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...I'm sure Clinton was in the draft lottery...but when his number was called did he serve or did he flee the country. I'll wait for your tales of his winning Purple Hearts and Bronze stars while he was in Europe. Yes, Kerry served in Vietnam....nobody disputed that, I'm just curious as to why being a decorated war hero meant nothing to you in '92 or '96, and being a draft dodger allegedly didn't hinder Bill Clinton as president in your mind...but in '04 you changed your tune to "we need a war hero for president" not some "guy who got out of serving in Vietnam"? And no, I haven't been to any communist museums, and unlike John Kerry, I haven't ever defended thru words or deeds any communist either...but the story was posted throughout the campaign...and the photo of his photo was posted as well. It's there.....probably autographed by Kerry himself. |
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06-22-2005, 07:00 AM
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06-22-2005, 09:44 AM
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OT Kerry has now released his entire service record. All accounts by Kerry are proven to be factual. Why won't Bush do the same? And yes, my man Clinton dodged the draft just like Bush did. Only difference being Clinton had the balls to admit it. Bush won't admit any wrongdoing whatsoever. Care to (try) explain why Bush won't so either? |
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06-22-2005, 10:39 AM
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www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1074054/posts If ANYTHING, the "lie" would have to be traced to Bush Sr. Keep in mind, Clinton continued this line of thinking. As far as I can tell, nobody is accusing Clinton of being a dummy... |
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06-22-2005, 11:00 AM
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I read where Clinton said that Saddam wanted to start up a WMD Program , and that War would be used if Saddam Didnt let weapon inspectors back in .......
and that is the big difference , Clinton wanted a Peacefull solution ...Bush was gungho for war ( despite missing a war when he served ) ....... And it is obviously Clear Clinton had the right way to handle Iraq ........ So while you on the right want to keep Brining up Clinton , it is hardly to your advantage ..... As for Bush sr ...... Iraq did have WMD , no one can argue Saddam didnt have WMD Pre 1991 , The entire question was How much got destroyed after 1991 and during the Clinton Years ........ But it wasnt the threat Bush and the Neo Cons made it out to be ...... Bush realy inflated the threat to sell the war , no one else did ....... |
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06-22-2005, 11:49 AM
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06-22-2005, 11:52 AM
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 I dont think the people listed there took offense ..... it was all done in jest .... |
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06-22-2005, 02:18 PM
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In other words, unlike the frat boy, Clinton left himself exposed to the draft (after declining one means of evasion, viz., an invitation to enroll in ROTC.) |
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06-22-2005, 02:26 PM
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The difference is that Dim Son knew in '02 that the WMD story didn't hold up and he used it to sell the war to the American people anyway. Further, as the Downing St. memo makes clear, AWOL Boy was determined to attack Iraq long before the intelligence was gathered and "fixed the facts around the policy." |
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06-22-2005, 03:06 PM
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06-22-2005, 03:17 PM
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The memo isn't some guy's interpretation - it's the official minutes from a government meeting. |
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06-22-2005, 03:31 PM
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Excellent title. |
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06-22-2005, 03:33 PM
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