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Old 06-21-2005, 11:02 AM   #1
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The NBA won't be locking out the players and hockey seems to be a go. WooHoo!

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NEW YORK -- NBA owners and players agreed to a new collective bargaining agreement Tuesday, averting the possibility of a lockout.

The league called a news conference in San Antonio prior to Game 6 of the NBA Finals, with commissioner David Stern and union director Billy Hunter announcing their agreement, ESPN Insider Chad Ford has confirmed.

The deal came on the fourth consecutive day of talks between the sides. The league's old seven-year agreement is due to expire on June 30.

The league and its players' association on Monday night were close to agreeing on a new CBA that would institute a new 19-year-old age minimum, reduce contract lengths and raise the salary cap, according to sources close to both negotiating committee.

Among the main items the players were seeking was a reduction in the so-called escrow tax under which 10 percent of their salaries are withheld if the amount of revenues devoted to players salaries exceeds a specified percentage.

Owners had already offered to raise the salary cap from slightly more than 48 percent of revenues to 51 percent, thereby increasing the amount of money each team can spend on player salaries.

The NBA has a system known as a "soft" salary cap, allowing teams to exceed the cap threshold to retain their own free agents, and to sign free agents under the so-called midlevel exception that was added to the labor agreement in 1999 after the sides went through a 7½-month lockout.

Another lockout could have begun July 1.

The agreement will still need to be ratified by the league's Board of Governors and by the members of the players' union at their annual meeting in Las Vegas next week.

A source close to the NBA negotiating committee and a source close to the union's negotiation committee claim that all of the major issues between the sides had been agreed to in principle as of Monday night.

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider and contributed to this report. Information from The Associated Press was also used in this report.
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Old 06-21-2005, 11:07 AM   #2
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With the way these two games are being played now, I no longer consider either a sport. So few teams in each "sport" actually play the games the way they were meant to be played.

I was hoping they'd both just go away.
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Old 06-21-2005, 11:26 AM   #3
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This will give our Mav youngins (Harris, Podkolzin, Mbenga, Daniels, Howard) some more time to develop in the summer leagues before next season.
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Old 06-21-2005, 11:34 AM   #4
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I'll feel better about Basketball if the USA can get past the other teams in the "2005 FIBA Tournament of the Americas" and win the gold. How about sending off the Spurs or the Pistons to play.

I missed Hockey this last spring. It's nice to watch a few games a week when the play is good.
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I'll feel better about Basketball if the USA can get past the other teams in the "2005 FIBA Tournament of the Americas" and win the gold. How about sending off the Spurs or the Pistons to play.

I missed Hockey this last spring. It's nice to watch a few games a week when the play is good.
The problem is that the Spurs have 2 significant internationals on their team, and have a couple more on the bench. Some of the top players in the NBA are internationals. Steve Nash won the league MVP this season as a canadian. Dirk Nowitzki was 3rd in MVP voting. Tim Duncan is actually from the Virgin Islands.

International players tend to be more team oriented and the high profile guys generally have better attitudes than their American counterparts.

As a fan, I would rather watch Nash play than Bryant or O'Neal. Much more fun to watch. Same goes with Nowitzki.
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Old 06-21-2005, 12:58 PM   #6
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I couldn't handle a winter without a full load for two straight years.
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Old 06-21-2005, 01:05 PM   #7
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I got to see Nash play in Dallas vs Phoenix. He's pretty darn good so is Nowitzki.

Argentina is playing and I guess Manu would play with them. Parker is from France and a couple are from Slovenia. Duncan played for the US last year in the Olympics. I get your point though. Mmmm.
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Old 06-21-2005, 01:20 PM   #8
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Please please please please please let there be a hockey season. GO AVS!!!!!!
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Old 06-22-2005, 12:50 AM   #9
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Yay for fans of NHL and NBA, but the NFL is all I need...
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It felt kinda weird not to have anything to be disappointed about this spring.....I'm so used to being lured into believing that the Flyers can actually win it all year in and year out that the void the NHL left was pretty hard to overcome for me.

It was the first time in several springs I didn't have to throw something at the TV
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right for th first time?

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hey, how about another?

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right for th first time?
Yep. The majority of Litton's cartoons are over the top and lame. But it's not like the Rocky is really a quality paper.
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With hockey coming back, the Red Wings can finally get the cup back in hockey town.
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They're gonna steal it from the Pepsi Center?
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Don't tell me your an avalanche fan? If you are remember this.

Western Conference Detroit vs. Colorado
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May 18 Colorado 3 5 Detroit
May 20 Colorado 4 3 Detroit OT
May 22 Detroit 2 1 Colorado OT
May 25 Detroit 2 3 Colorado
May 27 Colorado 2 1 Detroit OT
May 29 Detroit 2 0 Colorado
May 31 Colorado 0 7 Detroit
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That game 7, 7 to nothing beating was great.
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Don't tell me your an avalanche fan? If you are remember this.

Western Conference Detroit vs. Colorado
Date Away Home
May 18 Colorado 3 5 Detroit
May 20 Colorado 4 3 Detroit OT
May 22 Detroit 2 1 Colorado OT
May 25 Detroit 2 3 Colorado
May 27 Colorado 2 1 Detroit OT
May 29 Detroit 2 0 Colorado
May 31 Colorado 0 7 Detroit
Detroit wins series 4–3 and
Clarence S. Campbell Bowl

That game 7, 7 to nothing beating was great.
god forbid you'd find Broncos fans that are (gasp!) Avalanche Fans!!!!!!

it was a great series...too bad the good guys choked.

and what the hell is a canadian broncos fan doing rooting for the Wings?...that's got to be against the law some where

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