Schiavo Autopsy: Was In a Persistent Vegetative State

[Bronco_Beerslug]

By MITCH STACY

LARGO, Fla. - An autopsy released Wednesday found no evidence to contradict the diagnosis that
Terri Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state after her 1990 collapse, backing up her husband's contention that she would not have recovered if she was given additional therapy as her parents requested.

"There's nothing in her autopsy report that is inconsistent with a persistent vegetative state," said Dr. Stephen J. Nelson, a medical examiner who assisted in the autopsy.

Pinellas-Pasco Medical Examiner Jon Thogmartin, who led the autopsy team, concluded that there was no evidence of strangulation or other trauma leading to her collapse. He also said she did not appear to have suffered a heart attack and there was no evidence that she was given harmful drugs or other substances prior to her death.

Thogmartin said that Schiavo's brain was about half of its expected size when she died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed in a wrenching right-to-die dispute that engulfed the courts, Congress and the White House and divided the country.

He said she would not have been able to eat or drink if she had been given food by mouth as her parents' requested.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...chiavo_autopsy

[Florida_Bronco]

Good to hear she wasn't abused, her Husband has been portrayed as pure evil by the media and now they can't say much. It's also good to know they didn't kill her when she could have come out of the coma.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Good to hear she wasn't abused, her Husband has been portrayed as pure evil by the media and now they can't say much. It's also good to know they didn't kill her when she could have come out of the coma.

A lot of crow here for some politicians too.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

He also said she was blind, because the "vision centers of her brain were dead," and that her brain was about half of its expected size when she died 13 days following the feeding tube's removal.
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Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), a renowned heart surgeon before becoming Senate majority leader, went to the floor late Thursday night for the second time in 12 hours to argue that Florida doctors had erred in saying Terri Schiavo is in a "persistent vegetative state."

"I question it based on a review of the video footage which I spent an hour or so looking at last night in my office," he said in a lengthy speech in which he quoted medical texts and standards. "She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli."

Renowned heart surgeon

[Garcia Bronco]

This whole incident was disgusting on so many levels.

[bronco militia]

well then, I guess it was ok to murder her after all...

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

A lot of crow here for some politicians too.

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We could rid ourselves of all of the political crap like came out of this if we abolished party politics and made the legislature a part time job. All those guys have time to do, both parties, is to manufacture ways to get their names in the news. Both parties have shown they are totally inept when it comes to solving the country's problems.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

well then, I guess it was ok to murder her after all...

No, it was ok, like all medical experts said who examined her, to remove the feeding tube from the shell that once was Teri Schiavo so that she could finally pass in peace.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Big Guy

We could rid ourselves of all of the political crap like came out of this if we abolished party politics and made the legislature a part time job. All those guys have time to do, both parties, is to manufacture ways to get their names in the news. Both parties have shown they are totally inept when it comes to solving the country's problems.

You got that right....I would like to see the jobs not draw a salary at all.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

No, it was ok, like all medical experts said who examined her, to remove the feeding tube from the shell that once was Teri Schiavo so that she could finally pass in peace.

rationalize it any way you'd like..

[Rohirrim]

The whole Schivo affair just proved, once again, that's it's impossible to argue with people of "faith." Why? Because the "truth" is whatever they say it is. How can you argue with that?

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

The whole Schivo affair just proved, once again, that's it's impossible to argue with people of "faith." Why? Because the "truth" is whatever they say it is. How can you argue with that?

if only people who believed in God were as smart as you Rho...right?

[Paladin]

There is truth in that.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

if only people who believed in God were as smart as you Rho...right?

Facts is facts. The autopsy is fact. The rest is hyperbole.

[TheNextStep]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

rationalize it any way you'd like..

Kinda like how people rationalized keeping her artificially alive, which went against her wishes as communicated to her husband when she was still in her right mind?

[Hogan11]

I thought this whole thing was a dead subject (insert rimshot here).

It's over, people on both sides should let it go and move on IMO.

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by Hogan11

I thought this whole thing was a dead subject (insert rimshot here).

It's over, people on both sides should let it go and move on IMO.

I did It’s way past over, I can’t believe someone posted this again

I just don’t like the shots at people who believe in God, granted a lot of them deserve the ridicule, but not everyone who believes in God is that bad.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

I did It’s way past over, I can’t believe someone posted this again

Why, did someone already post it, or do you mean you'd rather not talk about anything to do with the Schiavo case?

[sisterhellfyre]

Q: What did the cannibal say to the Republican?

A: Dammit, quit playing with it and just eat your veggies!

Regards,
m.

[MT-Tdawg]

uuuuuhhhhhgggggg. Not this again. Worst part about this whole freakin thing is how the press had a field day...well, week with this crap. Bottom line is this. She told her husband when she was still herself, that if something like this happened she wanted to die. All the people that made the god arguement outta this make me sick. I'm not a overly religious man, but I do believe in a higher power. Call it God, Herman, Allah, Jesus, Mr. Sparkle, whatever you want really. But if you do believe that "god" is all powerful, and merciful and loves us all, do you really think he would want to see what was left of Terri, a women who was pretty much a vegetable by that point, couldn't even see it turns out, having little brain function left be held in this world just to make her parents happy? I can't speak for god, but I would kinda doubt it. Wouldn't it have been much easier to let her pass when she wanted to so she could be in "a better place" or with god if you will. Kinda seems like almost holding a "soul" hostage just to make some of the living happy, against the wishes of Terri herself and her husband. Then to have it turn into the freakin media circus? It's pretty much everything that is wrong with this country.
Sorry for the rant, just my humble opinion.

[KillerBronco#76]

it did make for a good south park episode

[Rohirrim]

I like these threads. Gives me another chance to piss off Shack.

[DBroncos4life]

how long was she in there?

[DBroncos4life]

Was she really in there from 1990?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Was she really in there from 1990?

Yep 15 years worth .......

[Garcia Bronco]

I'll tell you Roh...people need to mind their own frickin business is what it is...