Tidbit on Maurice Clarett

[ØrangeÇrush]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8564100


I was speaking with a member of the Denver Broncos when I asked him for an update on Maurice Clarett. What he told me was enlightening, and possibly another example of the Broncos' ability to pick running backs.

Maurice Clarett is showing he might have the instincts to be a productive running back.
Maurice Clarett is showing he might have the instincts to be a productive running back.

Clarett was described as a guy who could really read a zone scheme and a guy with maybe the best hands of the Broncos' backs. "Really read the zone scheme" means Clarett makes very fast, excellent decisions when he gets the ball and can stress a defense's weak spot.

As this Bronco said, Clarett might have run a slow 40-yard dash, but he ran right past one of the fastest linebackers in the NFL the other day at practice. He went on to say Clarett's vision and ability to read makes the 40 time irrelevant. Is it possible the Broncos have done it again with a non-first-round running back?



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Sounds great to me.

[fontaine]

I'm more excited about his hands and pass catching ability. Top offenses have to have a RB that is a threat catching the ball and makes the most of a quick pass in the flat and turns it into a first down. If Clarett can do this then it makes our running game multi-dimensional and less predictable, especially inside the red zone.

[ClevelandBronco2]

Originally Posted by ØrangeÇrush

Is it possible the Broncos have done it again with a non-first-round running back?

I don't just think that it's possible the Broncos have done it again, I think it's bloody likely that they have. Clarett has the talent to become a dominating back once again.

It's all about the work now. If he really can find it in himself to work hard again to be what he was with OSU, we'll have gotten a fourth round steal.

Clarett wasn't a reach. He was a calculated risk. There isn't a better system than the Broncos' system for a guy like Mo to find himself again.

[ØrangeÇrush]

I feel like Montgomery Burns, "Excellent!"

[TheManeMan]

Originally Posted by ØrangeÇrush

As this Bronco said, Clarett might have run a slow 40-yard dash, but he ran right past one of the fastest linebackers in the NFL the other day at practice.

I really hope that they're talking about Gold and not DJ...

[crazyhorse]

Dont you guys already have a RB? If you needed another back, why not keep Droughns?

Maybe Planahan should have just picked all running backs. That seems to make the locals happy.

[ØrangeÇrush]

Maybe he should have, he screws up a lot of other picks. Besides, Tatum Bell has shown anything besides a proclivity to staying healthy and all our other backs are question marks....the more the merrier. The main thing is that we run the ball well and control the TOP. I don't care which back is doing it as long as it gets done.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by ØrangeÇrush

Maybe he should have, he screws up a lot of other picks. Besides, Tatum Bell has shown anything besides a proclivity to staying healthy and all our other backs are question marks....the more the merrier. The main thing is that we run the ball well and control the TOP. I don't care which back is doing it as long as it gets done.

I am just saying that you had a back in Droughns that had proven he could run the ball. Why draft one? You had already traded out of the 1st round this year. Then turn around and dump a proven back to spend yet another draft pick on an unproven commodity. On the surface, it seems like a poor investment of resources.

[ØrangeÇrush]

We received two defensive lineman for a 3rd string RB and backup FB. Tell me exactly what is wrong with that?

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by ØrangeÇrush

We received two defensive lineman for a 3rd string RB and backup FB. Tell me exactly what is wrong with that?

There are very few outside the Bronco fans that feel you upgraded the D line. In fact, many feel you took a step backwards. Of course, that is subjective. However, there is a track record to show that the Broncos stand a better chance at being wrong, than right.

That brings me back to the original question. Why get rid of a proven back and draft one that is unproven?

[doof]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

There are very few outside the Bronco fans that feel you upgraded the D line. In fact, many feel you took a step backwards. Of course, that is subjective. However, there is a track record to show that the Broncos stand a better chance at being wrong, than right.

That brings me back to the original question. Why get rid of a proven back and draft one that is unproven?

Replacing Reggie Hayward with Brown, Warren, Ekuban, and Meyers, plus getting Trevor Pryce back is taking a step backwards? I think you give Hayward a little too much credit.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by doof

Replacing Reggie Hayward with Brown, Warren, Ekuban, and Meyers, plus getting Trevor Pryce back is taking a step backwards? I think you give Hayward a little too much credit.

Are all 5 of those guys going to play Haywards position?

I was under the impression that the Browns had one of, if not the worst defensive line in the NFL.

[ØrangeÇrush]

[QUOTE=crazyhorse]There are very few outside the Bronco fans that feel you upgraded the D line. In fact, many feel you took a step backwards. Of course, that is subjective. However, there is a track record to show that the Broncos stand a better chance at being wrong, than right. I'm not going to get into that debate. I like the moves, but thats an opinion. We won't know till we see them on the field.

That brings me back to the original question. Why get rid of a proven back and draft one that is unproven? this is a shaded question. RD wouldn't have been the starter this year, so why not trade value when its the highest. Thats what everyone would like to do. I think they were going to draft Maurice Claret regardless of whether or not we had Reuben Droughns. You are making the supposition that drafting Clarett was because of Droughns. Can you show that their is a link between the two? Shanny also drafts a RB pretty much every year.

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[doof]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Are all 5 of those guys going to play Haywards position?

I was under the impression that the Browns had one of, if not the worst defensive line in the NFL.

No, Trevor Pryce is going to play Hayward's position and none of the Brown's players have been handed a starting position, they have been brought in to compete. If they can outcompete last year's starters then the D-Line has obviously been upgraded, but if they can't beat out the starters, they will still add decent depth.

[ØrangeÇrush]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Are all 5 of those guys going to play Haywards position?

I was under the impression that the Browns had one of, if not the worst defensive line in the NFL.

How much of that can be attributed to an inept offense that couldn't move the ball or sustain a drive? Its a subjective question..However they didn't exactly have LB'ers that could stop anyone either. I'm in in a cautiously optimistic state right now.

[crazyhorse]

[QUOTE=ØrangeÇrush]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

There are very few outside the Bronco fans that feel you upgraded the D line. In fact, many feel you took a step backwards. Of course, that is subjective. However, there is a track record to show that the Broncos stand a better chance at being wrong, than right. I'm not going to get into that debate. I like the moves, but thats an opinion. We won't know till we see them on the field.

That brings me back to the original question. Why get rid of a proven back and draft one that is unproven? this is a shaded question. RD wouldn't have been the starter this year, so why not trade value when its the highest. Thats what everyone would like to do. I think they were going to draft Maurice Claret regardless of whether or not we had Reuben Droughns. You are making the supposition that drafting Clarett was because of Droughns. Can you show that their is a link between the two? Shanny also drafts a RB pretty much every year.



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Common now, there is a definate link between the two.

There was no way to guarantee that Clarett would be drafted by the Broncos when Droughns was traded. If the draft was that easy to figure, the teams could just tell everyone who they are gonna pick before the draft even started. Especially in the 3rd round. Wouldn't you agree? In fact, there is no gurantee that there would be any good backs left in the 3rd at all.

What I am saying is that there is little value when you turn around and spend a pick on an unproven back right after you have traded away one that has proven he can play.

You traded sure depth away for what might be depth at the position. It just seem like a wasted move to me. I could be wrong. Time will prove that out. But I thought the Broncos had other areas of need without just moving players in and out at a the backup RB spot. Especially for a team like the Broncos that can "plug any back in and get 1500 yards". After not having a 1st rounder this year, what would be the motivation?

[Broncos4Life]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

There are very few outside the Bronco fans that feel you upgraded the D line. In fact, many feel you took a step backwards. Of course, that is subjective. However, there is a track record to show that the Broncos stand a better chance at being wrong, than right.

That brings me back to the original question. Why get rid of a proven back and draft one that is unproven?

Well 99% of those people who feel that we didn't upgrade our D-line watch too much ESPN and listen to all the critics on that crappy network. I mean there are so called slackers, underachievers and injury prone guys, but the way I see it is Hayward was an average lineman that wanted to be overpaid for his garbage sacks last season. Screw him. Any one of those guys can fill his shoes. I feel the Browncos are an upgrade because all of them cost less than Hayward alone. And the fact their getting a second chance can make a difference as well. Like many other posters have said, if we get just two productive guys out of the group we still got upgraded. As for Droughns, look at the agent he hired. Shanny doesn't put up with players that hire that dickhead. Just one of the reasons why 3 corners were drafted. Walls in his contract year, will probably be gone regardless of the season he has. Shanny and turner have a talent for finding backs so why question that? So what if MoC is unproven. There were a few other RBs drafted by Denver that were unproven or flew under the radar and look at some of the seasons they had.
You shouldn't even question Denver drafting any RB. Speaking of track records, there is one that says the Broncos stand a better chance at being right than wrong when it comes to RBs.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by Broncos4Life

Well 99% of those people who feel that we didn't upgrade our D-line watch too much ESPN and listen to all the critics on that crappy network. The way I see it is Hayward was an average lineman that wanted to be overpaid for his garbage sacks last season. Screw him. I feel the Browncos are an upgrade because all of them cost less than Hayward alone. And the fact their getting a second chance can make a difference as well. Like many other posters have said, if we get just two productive guys out of the group we still got upgraded. As for Droughns, look at the agent he hired. Shanny doesn't put up with players that hire that dickhead. Just one of the reasons why 3 corners were drafted. Walls in his contract year, will probably be gone regardless of the season he has.

I think that 99% realize that the Browns had one of the worst lines in the NFL, and that Denver didn't. Though Denvers needed to get better, they were not as bad as the Browns line.

You dont have to watch ESPN to feel this way. Just look at the production.

[Broncos4Life]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I think that 99% realize that the Browns had one of the worst lines in the NFL, and that Denver didn't. Though Denvers needed to get better, they were not as bad as the Browns line.

You dont have to watch ESPN to feel this way. Just look at the production.

Yeah, and look at who was the HC and the 3 guys who were behind them missing all those tackles. I can't even name one except for Andra Davis. He was the best player on that defense.

I have to admit I was a little skepticle about bringing all those guys here, but then I looked at the rest of the defense. Three speedy LBs that can tackle pretty damn good, save for Gold, he tends to overpursue a bit, Lynch, Bailey, Fergy, and hopefully a healthy Walls, not to mention Pryce. I just don't see the run defense suffering because of the Browncos. And I only see the pass rush improving. Maybe we are taking a step back. Only time will tell though. I'll bet all my Vbucks at least two of those guys produce. And at least one of them will have 5 sacks by seasons end.

[crazyhorse]

Originally Posted by Broncos4Life

Yeah, and look at who was the HC and the 3 guys who were behind them missing all those tackles. I can't even name one except for Andra Davis. He was the best player on that defense.

I have to admit I was a little skepticle about bringing all those guys here, but then I looked at the rest of the defense. Three speedy LBs that can tackle pretty damn good, save for Gold, he tends to overpursue a bit, Lynch, Bailey, Fergy, and hopefully a healthy Walls, not to mention Pryce. I just don't see the run defense suffering because of the Browncos. And I only see the pass rush improving. Maybe we are taking a step back. Only time will tell though. I'll bet all my Vbucks at least two of those guys produce. And at least one of them will have 5 sacks by seasons end.

If I were you, I'd likely take the same position. So who am I to say that you are wrong. You're right that it will be played out on the field and nobody knows until they suit up and play.

Just remember that when argueing with Chiefs fans about thier optimism.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I think that 99% realize that the Browns had one of the worst lines in the NFL, and that Denver didn't. Though Denvers needed to get better, they were not as bad as the Browns line.

You dont have to watch ESPN to feel this way. Just look at the production.

Remember what started this..........Droughns wanted a new contract, to be paid like a starting running back instead of a backup fullback and Shanny told him no but you can go look for a trade if you want. (Same thing Portis did) So what do you do, have a rb that is going to hold out of camp cuz he is unhappy about his contract? Then what do you have, NO RB's.

[NaptownChief]

I told you guys that the Donks would be sorry for passing up Julius Jones to take Bell...The fact most of you are sporting wood hoping Clarett works out and doesn't quit in the middle of a game tells me you already agree with me.

[bronco militia]

wow..MoC shows great vision and can get past NFL LB's...in a non contact mini camp.

woohoo!!! I just love this time of year.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

wow..MoC shows great vision and can get past NFL LB's...in a non contact mini camp.

woohoo!!! I just love this time of year.

I do think we got the steal of the draft...but on field production will prove it to the rest.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I told you guys that the Donks would be sorry for passing up Julius Jones to take Bell...The fact most of you are sporting wood hoping Clarett works out and doesn't quit in the middle of a game tells me you already agree with me.

Don't work Nappy...Bell will have his place. So will Maurice...so will Johnson...Anderson...and the other guy.