Marines find 503,000 Sq. Ft Bunker

[watermock]

That's 175 yards by 275 yards.

I think they found the meat hooks they hung up kidnapping victims, along with bomb making facilities and even a game room. Mock told you people there were more bunkers to be found, I posted a Debka site....

Wait till they get into Syria....


http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/06/05/iraq.main/
Huge underground hideout uncovered in Iraq
Search in Anbar province yields large weapons cache
Sunday, June 5, 2005 Posted: 4:44 PM EDT (2044 GMT)
Weapons found in an underground bunker are sorted Sunday at a quarry near Falluja.

A 503,000-square-foot underground insurgent hideout.

Iraq's army is taking more responsibility for its country's security

SPECIAL REPORT


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. Marines and Iraqi soldiers have uncovered a 503,000-square-foot underground insurgent hideout in central Iraq containing large stores of weapons, ammunition and supplies.

The bunker -- the size of nine American football fields or six soccer pitches -- is the largest found in the past year, the U.S. military said Sunday.

No insurgents were in the bunker, but Marines found fully charged cell phones and fresh food in the kitchen, said 1st Lt. Kate VandenBossche, a spokeswoman for the 2nd Marine Division.

The bunker, which measured 902 feet (275 meters) by 558 feet (170 meters), also included furnished living spaces, two showers and an air conditioner, she said.

Other rooms contained machine guns, mortars, rockets, artillery rounds, black uniforms, ski masks, compasses, log books and night vision goggles, she said.

Marines on patrol found the bunker Thursday north of Karma, near the city of Falluja.

The patrol was looking for weapons caches in Anbar province when they noticed a lone building in an old rock quarry in the middle of the desert, VandenBossche said.

"In one room there was a large, chest-style electric freezer," she said. "The Marines moved it and found the hidden entrance to the underground quarry system."

It is not yet known if the bunker was built by Saddam Hussein's regime or if the insurgents created it from the remnants of the quarry.

"We don't know how long the bunker has been in use. We're still exploring the area and notating everything we find," she said.

After Marines search the site, the weapons and munitions will be destroyed through controlled detonations, she said.

It is one of a dozen weapons caches found in the area in the past four days, she said.

12 'documented cases' against Saddam
With the potential for more than 500 cases against former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, prosecutors will focus on 12 "documented cases," the spokesman for Iraq's prime minister said Sunday.

Laith Kubba said "there is no need to waste this effort" to prosecute all 500.

"They might be over 500. However, the cases that are documented are 12, and the investigation judges are confident that the cases for which he will face the punishment stipulated by the law are 12," he said.

According to The Associated Press, a spokesman for Saddam's legal team said the charges were illegal.

"The appropriate channel is for the accusations to come through the court and for the lawyers to receive a copy of the indictment," Issam Ghazawi said, according to the AP report.

Saddam heard seven charges against him during a July 1, 2004, appearance before a court that was formed by the Coalition Provisional Authority, a U.S.-backed body that no longer exists. He has not appeared before the Iraqi tribunal responsible for handling war crimes.

At that time, the Iraq judge read preliminary charges that had been outlined in his arrest warrant. That warrant accuses Saddam of allegedly killing religious figures in 1974; gassing Kurds in Halabja in 1988; killing the Kurdish Barzani clan in 1983; killing members of political parties in the past 30 years; displacing Kurds during the 1986-88 "Anfal" campaign; suppressing the 1991 uprisings by Kurds and Shiites; and invading Kuwait in 1990.

It was not immediately clear if those seven were among the 12 cases.

Several of Saddam's top lieutenants face similar preliminary charges.

Kubba said he believed Saddam's trial could begin within the two-month time frame given by interim Iraq President Jalal Talabani on Tuesday.

"I don't see anything that would prevent it from happening in this short period," he said, "and the government's position is to push for and speed up the trial as quickly as possible."

U.S. troops captured Saddam in December 2003, eight months after his government fell. He is in the legal custody of Iraq's government but under the guard of U.S. troops.

Other developments

Iraqi police have arrested a close aide to the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq's cell in the northern city of Mosul, government officials said Sunday. Mutlaq Mahmoud Mutlaq Abdullah, also known as Abu Raad, was arrested on May 28, the government said. He is believed to be a top organizer and financier of the Mosul cell.


Gunmen wounded the police chief of Buhruz, Major Mohammed Azzawi, and killed his driver Sunday, Iraqi police said. Another police officer was wounded in the attack in the town just south of the Baquba, police said.


An Egyptian national was shot to death in the western Baghdad neighborhood of al-Amriyah on Saturday evening, Iraqi police said. Gunmen fired upon Ahmed Kamal while he was driving his car, police said.

CNN's Kianne Sadeq and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.

Copyright 2005 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.

[NaptownChief]

My sand game has been a little shakey lately and at times it has felt like I was trying to get up and down out of a 503,000 sq Ft Bunker.

[watermock]

Funny, but who knows what intelligence they can get out of this. I'm pretty sure this is where they were sawing off the heads of civillian hostages. There should be a treasure trove of intelligence.

Unfortunately, a lookout must of seen us coming and they went out a back escape route. Rats always leave themselves an escape route.

Still, a good find, altho it would of been nice to get the rats inside.

[Dukes]

I'd be willing to put money on it that there are other bunkers just like this containing WMD

[Spider]

http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewid...l?itemId=15544

[watermock]

Originally Posted by O&B4Life

I'd be willing to put money on it that there are other bunkers just like this containing WMD

The WMD was allready shipped to Syria, another Baath party enclave that occupies Lebanon...the WMD is in Lebanon in the Bakka Valley, to attack Israel. I have explained this several times. I also said there were more bunkers in and around Baghdad.

It's not like Saddam didn't fire his rockets at Israel, or that smaller rockets didn't fire from Lebanon...so there just might be a precedent, right?

This is like swinging at a mexican birthday party pinata it's so obvious.

[watermock]

Leave it up to Spider to minimize any success against the people that have, and probably will kill on US soil again.

[Dukes]

Originally Posted by watermock

The WMD was allready shipped to Syria, another Baath party enclave that occupies Lebanon...the WMD is in Lebanon in the Bakka Valley, to attack Israel. I have explained this several times. I also said there were more bunkers in and around Baghdad.

It's not like Saddam didn't fire his rockets at Israel, or that smaller rockets didn't fire from Lebanon...so there just might be a precedent, right?

This is like swinging at a mexican birthday party pinata it's so obvious.

I have no doubt that WMD were taken to those locations, it just seems logical to me that they could not get all of them out.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

I don't believe it is any great revelation that there are hidden underground bunkers in Iraq. I think we have known about them for years.

As for your WMD theory the U.S. government has stated that there are none and haven't been any for many years.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by watermock

Leave it up to Spider to minimize any success against the people that have, and probably will kill on US soil again.

.........poor ole Mock so desperate for Bush to do anything right , you will cling to anything

[watermock]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I don't believe it is any great revelation that there are hidden underground bunkers in Iraq. I think we have known about them for years.

As for your WMD theory the U.S. government has stated that there are none and haven't been any for many years.

Isn't that rather funny? We didn't know about a 500,000 square foot bunker, yet we have known about them?

So your telling me we have known about this bunker for years? While they were bombing our soldiers? You apologists amuse me.

Second, we haven't had a foot in Syria or Lebanon for decades. The government has said they HAVEN'T FOUND ANY, not that there are not any.

Of course, the UN, sucking on the nipple of it's bribery scandle, can certainly be trusted right?

Hey Beerslug, the UN certainly was able to find Saddam's bunkers or all the other weapons cashes right? What are you trying to sell? Saddam's henchmen just said "boo" and the UN ran off. Not to mention a 20 Billion bribery directly involving Annan and his cronies, France, Germany and Russia.

Of course you haven't noticed that Annan axed his Food for Terrorism aide today have you. Must of skipped your mind.

What are you smoking?

You don't know crap about what is in Syria whatsoever, or Lebanon. You can believe this, the weapons would be moved CLOSER to Israel than away from it, wouldn't you think?

Untill we get in Syrian and Syrian controlled areas in Lebanon, your just talking out of your colon.

I'm totally incredulous you would accuse the US military for coddling this bunker. It's absurd. I'm more mad we didn't find it sooner. At least we found it.

It insinuate that we knew about it years ago is repulsive to me. It's assumption, ludicrous, assertion and almost treason at the same time.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by watermock

Second, we haven't had a foot in Syria or Lebanon for decades. The government has said they HAVEN'T FOUND ANY, not that there are not any.

Try reading a newspaper every once in awhile instead interrogating that cat for intelligence.

Final report: Iraq had no WMDs
WASHINGTON — When the United States invaded Iraq last year to disarm Saddam Hussein's regime, there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or any facilities to build them, according to a definitive report released Wednesday.
The 1,000-page report by chief weapons searcher Charles Duelfer, a document that President Bush said would represent the last word on the issue, confirms earlier findings and undermines much of the Bush administration's case about the Iraq weapons threat, though it does say Saddam intended to restart his weapons programs once United Nations sanctions were lifted.

Using the research of the 1,700-member Iraq Survey Group, Duelfer concluded that Saddam ordered his arsenal of chemical and biological weapons destroyed in 1991 and 1992 and halted nuclear weapons development, all in hopes of lifting crippling economic sanctions.

"Saddam Hussein ended the nuclear program in 1991 following the Gulf War," the report states.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...0-06-wmd_x.htm

[Hogan11]

This is yesterday's news.

Debka? Didn't Debka have Saddam living it up at a Syrian High rise hotel before he was nabbed? Whatta news source...Pfftt

[watermock]

No they didn't have Saddam living in a high rise Hotel. How amusing. He had an elaborate bunker that the US flooded off the Euphrates.

You want to pull up a link that Debka thought he was in a highrise?

Fact of the matter is that US pressured Syria where most of his rats are hiding. After the assasination of the Prime Minister of Lebanon, a Syrian opponent, Syria offered up a token Saddam nobody hoping we would again look the other way.

As far as your other comment, what part don't you understand? I said we haven't stepped a foot into Syria or Lebanon. The very fact we just found a bunker 175X275 Doesn't give you pause? Hey what happened to your argument we knew about it all along there genius?

If we just found a giant bunker, don't you think there might be more? That isn't even the point, it was how you skirted the issue completely. I was talking about Syria and Lebanon, and you totally ignored the argument.

Look you fool, the UN fought the invasion for 5 months. You don't think Saddam had time to make himself look clean during that time?

It's totally amusing. What he didn't expect, was that altho his family, with billions, was able to escape to Syria, all Syria wanted was the money, not the heat of the USA.

Why don't YOU read something other than propoganda!

Saddam fled to Syria, took billions, then they threw him out along with his bastard kids like a rag doll. You have no clue what happened.

They threw all three of them back into Iraq. Just because they are all Baath Party, doesn't mean Syria wanted any heat. That's why all three were caught near the Syrian Border.

Your totally clueless. The Syrians kept the weapons, promised Saddam and his sons asylum, then got scared. They kept the money and kicked their asses back into the desert.

That's why we found Saddam in a rathole and captured and killed his sons. Your totally clueless.

[Spider]

.......

[Hogan11]

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by watermock

Look you fool, the UN fought the invasion for 5 months. You don't think Saddam had time to make himself look clean during that time?

Why don't YOU read something other than propoganda!

I'm not the one chasing cats around on rooftops at 3 in the morning but feel free to consider everyone a fool but yourself.

And by the way, the propaganda (no WMD, never was any) you're referring to was issued by the Bush administration, you know, the one that said we had to go to war before Saddam destroyed us with WMD.

[watermock]

Of course there wasn't any, that's why the UN thought so, the US thought so, Britan thought so, blah blah blah....If the UN wasn't run by a bunch of idiots, they would of had the balls to find out. Is that the USA's fault?

What does my cat have to do about this issue? My cat jumps houses as his training as a circus mini-tiger, plus he likes to chase birds. To his credit, he's never brought in prey, something rather odd considering he's an Egyptian mau that is almost impossible to control.

As far as Bush goes, he was pissed off about the plot to kill his father. It's not reported alot, but true. The real reason was that Saddam had become a loose cannon that idolized Stalin and was out of control. If you don't understand that, your even more lost than I guessed.

As far as WMD goes, I allready told you where they trucked them out, but you continue to ignore my argument. I have said this for three years, but it's rather irrelevant now. We will see when the Christians try to take back Lebanon. Before that happens, you better be pretty sure of your assertions.

And listen to this...so you think that Saddam complied with the peace terms when we spared hundreds of thousands of conscripted soldiers at the will of this moron?

You can't hold water on one single issue. What is amusing is you say there was never WMD in Iraq. Tell that to Israel when they were putting on gas masks in 1991 when Scuds were raining on them.

I can beat you down like a rented mule.

The stone cold fact is Saddam was using the Oil for Food program thru the UN to line his wifes pockets in France. Oh, you missed that little bit of info? Selective memory huh.

Second, he was building bunkers like Hitler. Missed that one didn't you.

Third, he had not complied whatsoever with the CEASE FIRE AGREEMENT.

There is one little problem with violating a CEASE FIRE AGREEMENT...It means we can go in at any time to clean up the mess...Just for your information, there was never a truce or surrender, the USA was too kind, we could of killed millions. Since Saddam didn't comply to UN inspections, we had every right to complete the war.

Finally, who managed to find this bunker, which was bigger than 9 football fields? The UN?

[TheReverend]

Thanks for the report Mock... I was stationed in Al Anbar. The province is fairly large though, so Im glad they specified by saying near Fallujah. The Black Uniforms means the bunker is for Mujhadeen... the rockets and mortars are the weapon of choice, seen plenty of that. I doubt THIS is where they took the kidnapped. Beheadings probably went down in Saudi. Anyways, glad to hear about this... this find saved many US lives.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by watermock

Of course there wasn't any, that's why the UN thought so, the US thought so, Britan thought so, blah blah blah...

No, the U.S. and GB thought their WAS WMD (or fixed intel to try and help support that position anyway). Really a bummer when you're confronted with facts that you have no answer for, isn't it?

What does my cat have to do about this issue?

You brag about chasing your cat around rooftops drunk and call everyone else a fool. Do you get it?

As far as WMD goes, I allready told you where they trucked them out, but you continue to ignore my argument. I have said this for three years, but it's rather irrelevant now. We will see when the Christians try to take back Lebanon. Before that happens, you better be pretty sure of your assertions.

These are the Bush administration's assertions, do you get it?

You can't hold water on one single issue. What is amusing is you say there was never WMD in Iraq. Tell that to Israel when they were putting on gas masks in 1991 when Scuds were raining on them.

The Bush administration says there were never any there since '91 and '92, do you get it?

I can beat you down like a rented mule.

I hate to think what you do with your rented mules.

The stone cold fact is Saddam was using the Oil for Food program thru the UN to line his wifes pockets in France. Oh, you missed that little bit of info? Selective memory huh.

You understand the U.S. condoned the misuse of that program right? Did you miss that little bit of info?

Finally, who managed to find this bunker, which was bigger than 9 football fields? The UN?

Good for our military! Hopefully they can find the majority of them that we have suspected being there for quite some time now.