Future TE? - The Orange Mane

ReleaseTheBeast26 · 06-06-2005, 06:01 PM

Jeb Putzier, or Wesley Duke?

I liked Putzier last season, he looks like he has talent. But Wesley Duke is an ex-basketball player, and lately, there have been stars coming out of the NCAAB to play for the NFL(Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzo for example). Also, remember that we signed San Diegos ex-TE coach that coached Antonio Gates and made him into a star.

I really hope Wesley Duke works his way to the starter and franchise TE as the season progresses.

TheReverend · 06-06-2005, 06:23 PM

The odds of him being a success are VERY slim... Basketball player does not automatically equal All-Pro tight end. He'll be VERY lucky if he even makes the roster.

Play2win · 06-06-2005, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

The odds of him being a success are VERY slim... Basketball player does not automatically equal All-Pro tight end. He'll be VERY lucky if he even makes the roster.

But the boy can sure DUNK!!!

Mr. Trout · 06-06-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

But the boy can sure DUNK!!!

That would be really beneficial.... if they added extra points if the player could throw down a windmill dunk through a rim attached to the goalpost after they score a touchdown...interesting idea..I am calling Tagliabue now.

eddie mac · 06-06-2005, 07:26 PM

You're attempting to compare 2 players who at this moment in time are streets apart in terms of experience and what Broncos coaches think of them. Putz is here to stay and is the starting TE in this offense. He had a decent year last season and the Broncos coaches think highly of him otherwise they would not have matched the Jets offer. If he can somehow improve his redzone play he'll be one of the top TE's in the AFC.

Play2win · 06-06-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Trout

That would be really beneficial.... if they added extra points if the player could throw down a windmill dunk through a rim attached to the goalpost after they score a touchdown...interesting idea..I am calling Tagliabue now.

I hope you have him on speed dial...

Mr. Trout · 06-06-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Play2Win

I hope you have him on speed dial...

nah no speed dial...I'll leave him a message if he doesen't answer.

TotallyScrewed · 06-06-2005, 07:38 PM

Anyone hear the rumor about Nate Jackson switching to TE?

Hercules Rockefeller · 06-06-2005, 07:42 PM

Putzier. Next time we should do a comparison that doesn't include a rookie who is a former basketball player attempting to switch sports. Then there might be a chance at a real discussion.

TheReverend · 06-06-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Putzier. Next time we should do a comparison that doesn't include a rookie who is a former basketball player attempting to switch sports. Then there might be a chance at a real discussion.

Could at least break the kid in easy... I think hes 14

ReleaseTheBeast26 · 06-06-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Putzier. Next time we should do a comparison that doesn't include a rookie who is a former basketball player attempting to switch sports. Then there might be a chance at a real discussion.

Actually, the fact that Duke could become a great player in this league has a good chance. He just needs time to do a successful transition. Do you have any idea, any idea at all how much he could help our redzone efficiency?

Hercules Rockefeller · 06-06-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ReleaseTheBeast26

Actually, the fact that Duke could become a great player in this league has a good chance. He just needs time to do a successful transition. Do you have any idea, any idea at all how much he could help our redzone efficiency?

He could help it a great deal, but guys like Gates are major exceptions, not the norm. Duke has to actually prove something first.

sirhcyennek81 · 06-06-2005, 09:02 PM

Not every basketball player becomes a good tight end. Putzier has had 3 seasons to sit, with 2 of them with Shannon Sharpe ahead of him. He is our tight end of the now, and the future.

ReleaseTheBeast26 · 06-06-2005, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

He could help it a great deal, but guys like Gates are major exceptions, not the norm. Duke has to actually prove something first.

Yes, I know. But i'm just saying, if he makes the successful transition, we know we have talent and depth at the TE position then.

Pat Bowlen · 06-06-2005, 10:15 PM

Man, I really love obvious theoretical statements.

Kaylore · 06-06-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Bowlen

Man, I really love obvious theoretical statements.

If everyone plays perfectly, we'll win the Super Bowl.

Atlas · 06-06-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ReleaseTheBeast26

. Do you have any idea, any idea at all how much he could help our redzone efficiency?

Yeah this year he will help ZERO.

orange crusher · 06-07-2005, 12:44 AM

Very nice Atlas, very nice.

Pat Bowlen · 06-07-2005, 12:46 AM

Oh man... a naked supermodel!

Meck77 · 06-07-2005, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TotallyScrewed

Anyone hear the rumor about Nate Jackson switching to TE?

I just heard it confirmed on KOA. I guess he has put alot of weight on in the off season Jackson said.

Smilin Assassin · 06-07-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TotallyScrewed

Anyone hear the rumor about Nate Jackson switching to TE?

I'd like that a lot.

W/Jerry's signing, I was afraid Nate would be the odd man out. This could only help his chances of sticking.

The guy has great hands. Now let's just keep him healthy.

SoCalBronco · 06-07-2005, 04:24 PM

a little more on Jackson to TE.

Tuesday, June 7, 2005

Team Camp Day Four: Jackson on the Move
By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- When Nate Jackson returned to the Broncos for offseason workouts in April after spending a month in California following his rehabilitation from a season-ending injury, Head Coach Mike Shanahan gave him an unusual task -- to gain weight.

BRONCOS TV: WEEK 1 TEAM CAMP WRAP-UP | RICE'S FIRST PRACTICE

Shanahan wanted Jackson to bulk up in order to try him out at tight end after two seasons at wide receiver. It didn't take long for Jackson to pack on 18 pounds to a more tight end-like 235 -- and it didn't take months of work in the weight room, just "three or four weeks" of dietary tweaks.

"I ate well and drank these shakes, three of them a day between meals, one before bed," Jackson said. "The one before bed, I put, they come ready-made shakes. I put the shake itself in a blender, and then two or three eggs, ice cream, chocolate sauce and blended it up and drank that before bed time. I put it on pretty quick."

The chance for more playing time proved worth the extra girth.

"I think what (Shanahan) told me was that it'd be an opportunity to be on the field a little more and hopefully be utilized a little more," Jackson said. "If that's the case, then I'm all for it."

Jackson proved in limited duty last year that he could make the requisite catches across the middle expected of a tight end; his two grabs in a last-minute drive at Jacksonville last Sept. 19 demonstrated his ability to make those catches in the clutch. The challenge now is learning how to block -- something that will take more time and work than the organized team activities can provide.

"It's relatively low-contact," Jackson said. "For me, my technique is not so great right now, so I need to take advantage of this time. Even though we don't have pads, I need to get my head in there.

"That's the problem I've been having, is getting my head in there. I've been using my hands too much. So that's stuff I have to work on."

Jackson believes that his foot speed has been relatively unaffected by the 18 additional pounds -- and if it is, it'll be offset by going up against linebackers and safeties as opposed to cornerbacks.

"Maybe a tiny, tiny bit, but overall I feel like my speed's pretty good -- especially when you change and you're running routes against different people -- slower people," Jackson said, "and if my speed hasn't changed a lot, then it puts me at an advantage."

Quarterback Jake Plummer has been pleased out of what he's seen from his newest veteran tight end.

"He's been looking real good. Obviously there's no pads on," Plummer said. "If we can use him the right way, I think he'll be a big asset for us in the passing game."

The Broncos have extensive recent experience with the receiver-to-tight end transformation, most recently with starter Jeb Putzier, whose position shift actually began during his senior season at Boise State. It's Putzier's development that has helped make Jackson's shift happen, Plummer believes.

"(Jackson is) kind of a hybrid tight end like Jeb was a couple of years ago," Plummer said. "We're counting on Jeb now to be more of an every-down tight end, but Nate's looking good out there.

Denver also moved Shannon Sharpe and Byron Chamberlain from receiver to tight end; both eventually became Pro Bowlers and Sharpe merely caught more passes, amassed more yards and scored more touchdowns than any tight end in NFL history.

But that success didn't make Jackson more amenable to the change. Simply getting a chance for more playing time was enough to compel him to switch.

"I want to be on this team," Jackson said. "If they saw me as a center, and wanted me to put on weight and play center, I'd probably do that."

watermock · 06-07-2005, 04:31 PM

This doesn't bode well for Leach and Hape. If Alexander has recovered, with Putz and Carswell in there on blocking assignments, one will probably have to go.

TheReverend · 06-07-2005, 06:06 PM

I dont like Hape anyways... boy did those milkshakes sound delicious...

06-06-2005, 06:01 PM	#1
ReleaseTheBeast26 Reppin' O&B till my death I'm stuck in this avatar! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 2,000 miles away from the greatest place ever. Posts: 20	Future TE? Jeb Putzier, or Wesley Duke? I liked Putzier last season, he looks like he has talent. But Wesley Duke is an ex-basketball player, and lately, there have been stars coming out of the NCAAB to play for the NFL(Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzo for example). Also, remember that we signed San Diegos ex-TE coach that coached Antonio Gates and made him into a star. I really hope Wesley Duke works his way to the starter and franchise TE as the season progresses.

06-07-2005, 04:24 PM	#22
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	a little more on Jackson to TE. Tuesday, June 7, 2005 Team Camp Day Four: Jackson on the Move By Andrew Mason DenverBroncos.com ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- When Nate Jackson returned to the Broncos for offseason workouts in April after spending a month in California following his rehabilitation from a season-ending injury, Head Coach Mike Shanahan gave him an unusual task -- to gain weight. BRONCOS TV: WEEK 1 TEAM CAMP WRAP-UP \| RICE'S FIRST PRACTICE Shanahan wanted Jackson to bulk up in order to try him out at tight end after two seasons at wide receiver. It didn't take long for Jackson to pack on 18 pounds to a more tight end-like 235 -- and it didn't take months of work in the weight room, just "three or four weeks" of dietary tweaks. "I ate well and drank these shakes, three of them a day between meals, one before bed," Jackson said. "The one before bed, I put, they come ready-made shakes. I put the shake itself in a blender, and then two or three eggs, ice cream, chocolate sauce and blended it up and drank that before bed time. I put it on pretty quick." The chance for more playing time proved worth the extra girth. "I think what (Shanahan) told me was that it'd be an opportunity to be on the field a little more and hopefully be utilized a little more," Jackson said. "If that's the case, then I'm all for it." Jackson proved in limited duty last year that he could make the requisite catches across the middle expected of a tight end; his two grabs in a last-minute drive at Jacksonville last Sept. 19 demonstrated his ability to make those catches in the clutch. The challenge now is learning how to block -- something that will take more time and work than the organized team activities can provide. "It's relatively low-contact," Jackson said. "For me, my technique is not so great right now, so I need to take advantage of this time. Even though we don't have pads, I need to get my head in there. "That's the problem I've been having, is getting my head in there. I've been using my hands too much. So that's stuff I have to work on." Jackson believes that his foot speed has been relatively unaffected by the 18 additional pounds -- and if it is, it'll be offset by going up against linebackers and safeties as opposed to cornerbacks. "Maybe a tiny, tiny bit, but overall I feel like my speed's pretty good -- especially when you change and you're running routes against different people -- slower people," Jackson said, "and if my speed hasn't changed a lot, then it puts me at an advantage." Quarterback Jake Plummer has been pleased out of what he's seen from his newest veteran tight end. "He's been looking real good. Obviously there's no pads on," Plummer said. "If we can use him the right way, I think he'll be a big asset for us in the passing game." The Broncos have extensive recent experience with the receiver-to-tight end transformation, most recently with starter Jeb Putzier, whose position shift actually began during his senior season at Boise State. It's Putzier's development that has helped make Jackson's shift happen, Plummer believes. "(Jackson is) kind of a hybrid tight end like Jeb was a couple of years ago," Plummer said. "We're counting on Jeb now to be more of an every-down tight end, but Nate's looking good out there. Denver also moved Shannon Sharpe and Byron Chamberlain from receiver to tight end; both eventually became Pro Bowlers and Sharpe merely caught more passes, amassed more yards and scored more touchdowns than any tight end in NFL history. But that success didn't make Jackson more amenable to the change. Simply getting a chance for more playing time was enough to compel him to switch. "I want to be on this team," Jackson said. "If they saw me as a center, and wanted me to put on weight and play center, I'd probably do that." __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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06-06-2005, 06:23 PM	#2
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ "not an athlete" Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,348 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	The odds of him being a success are VERY slim... Basketball player does not automatically equal All-Pro tight end. He'll be VERY lucky if he even makes the roster.

06-06-2005, 07:26 PM	#5
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,573 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	You're attempting to compare 2 players who at this moment in time are streets apart in terms of experience and what Broncos coaches think of them. Putz is here to stay and is the starting TE in this offense. He had a decent year last season and the Broncos coaches think highly of him otherwise they would not have matched the Jets offer. If he can somehow improve his redzone play he'll be one of the top TE's in the AFC.

06-06-2005, 07:38 PM	#8
TotallyScrewed Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,597	Anyone hear the rumor about Nate Jackson switching to TE?

06-06-2005, 07:42 PM	#9
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,013 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Putzier. Next time we should do a comparison that doesn't include a rookie who is a former basketball player attempting to switch sports. Then there might be a chance at a real discussion.

06-06-2005, 09:02 PM	#13
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,768 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Not every basketball player becomes a good tight end. Putzier has had 3 seasons to sit, with 2 of them with Shannon Sharpe ahead of him. He is our tight end of the now, and the future.

06-06-2005, 10:15 PM	#15
Pat Bowlen President/Chief Executive Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,691	Man, I really love obvious theoretical statements.

06-07-2005, 12:44 AM	#18
orange crusher Predominately Orange Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,564	Very nice Atlas, very nice.

06-07-2005, 12:46 AM	#19
Pat Bowlen President/Chief Executive Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,691	Oh man... a naked supermodel!

06-07-2005, 04:31 PM	#23
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	This doesn't bode well for Leach and Hape. If Alexander has recovered, with Putz and Carswell in there on blocking assignments, one will probably have to go.

06-07-2005, 06:06 PM	#24
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ "not an athlete" Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,348 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	I dont like Hape anyways... boy did those milkshakes sound delicious...