Ahhhhhhhhhh! Heating/AC gurus help me before I melt! - The Orange Mane

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 01:59 PM

Ok, so its been about freaking ungodly hot here in SoCal already this spring and we topped temps in the 100's for 4 of the past 7 days. Anyway, as always, just when you dont expect it, the AC cuts out! Horror!

So, what I need to know is, my Lennox unit at my pad has crapped out after only two years of service. I am getting airflow (albeit warm) and I can hear the compressor clicking outside but the return air is coming out with regular air. I've checked the coils for ice, checked the fuses, and made sure there wasnt a short in my thermostat.

Could my refrigerant have already needed a recharge after only two years of service? What the hell else could it be?

Second question, how much does a recharge of freon cost usually (including the service call by HVAC tech?) I dont want to get crushed financially over this but I suspect I am going to drop a few Benjamin's over this

PatsWin2002 · 05-26-2005, 02:03 PM

I suspect the refrigerant too, but I'm no expert.

What's the life expectancy of an A/C out there? Is this a large model or one that costs $89 new at Home Depot?

PatsWin2002 · 05-26-2005, 02:07 PM

Just poking around the internet I found this air conditioner troubleshooting site:

http://www.repairclinic.com/0088_16_1.asp

Beantown Bronco · 05-26-2005, 02:08 PM

Patswin and I wouldn't know anything about A/Cs....it's been rainy and in the 40s this whole month....no joke

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

I suspect the refrigerant too, but I'm no expert.

What's the life expectancy of an A/C out there? Is this a large model or one that costs $89 new at Home Depot?

The model is meant to serve a double level home of 2000 sq feet I believe. It was new along with the house two years ago but we frequently had to run that sucker at nights since it gets so hot here in the summer. Freaking desert climate...

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Patswin and I wouldn't know anything about A/Cs....it's been rainy and in the 40s this whole month....no joke

Heard about that Nor'Easter that has been slugging y'all. Ah to have one of those here. Damn desert. Time to move back to Colorado. Screw this heat

PatsWin2002 · 05-26-2005, 02:12 PM

Pez used to be such a cool guy, too.

Rock Chalk · 05-26-2005, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pezman

Ok, so its been about freaking ungodly hot here in SoCal already this spring and we topped temps in the 100's for 4 of the past 7 days. Anyway, as always, just when you dont expect it, the AC cuts out! Horror!

So, what I need to know is, my Lennox unit at my pad has crapped out after only two years of service. I am getting airflow (albeit warm) and I can hear the compressor clicking outside but the return air is coming out with regular air. I've checked the coils for ice, checked the fuses, and made sure there wasnt a short in my thermostat.

Could my refrigerant have already needed a recharge after only two years of service? What the hell else could it be?

Second question, how much does a recharge of freon cost usually (including the service call by HVAC tech?) I dont want to get crushed financially over this but I suspect I am going to drop a few Benjamin's over this

IF its your refrigerant, then you have a leak somewhere where its getting out because 2 years is far too short for you to run out.

As for costs, that depends on your area AND the type of refrigerant. Since its only 2 years old you are almost gauranteed its not R-12, which is good. Its the coldest freon but no longer used and the stuff is more expensive than gold.

Your first problem is that you got a Lennox. Trade that ****er in for a Ruud or Trane.

PatsWin2002 · 05-26-2005, 02:14 PM

It's been raining for days here. Everything is flooded.

Pez, I'm surprised you don't have central air conditioning out there (or do you?). I thought you were talking about a window unit.

Anyway, I gotta go get my kids. Sorry for the lame snowman pic.

Good luck.
If we don't hear from ya we'll just assume you melted.

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlecRaenos

IF its your refrigerant, then you have a leak somewhere where its getting out because 2 years is far too short for you to run out.

As for costs, that depends on your area AND the type of refrigerant. Since its only 2 years old you are almost gauranteed its not R-12, which is good. Its the coldest freon but no longer used and the stuff is more expensive than gold.

Your first problem is that you got a Lennox. Trade that ****er in for a Ruud or Trane.

Tell me about it... R-22 sucks. I remember helping a buddy replace his unit with some R-502 but he was a HVAC guy anyway so it was never a big deal.

Believe me, if the warranty didnt still cover the compressor, I would bag this POS Lennox unit in a heartbeat.

Breck Bronc · 05-26-2005, 02:17 PM

I'm really enjoying this spring weather after living in Miami the past three years and finally returning to Colorado. I felt guilty running the air conditioner last week when it was in the low-90's, but hell, I have it so I might as well use it

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Pezman · 05-26-2005, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

It's been raining for days here. Everything is flooded.

Pez, I'm surprised you don't have central air conditioning out there (or do you?). I thought you were talking about a window unit.

Anyway, I gotta go get my kids. Sorry for the lame snowman pic.

Good luck.
If we don't hear from ya we'll just assume you melted.

Must...not...sweat...on...keyboard

There is a great mental picture for ya. Hell, I might be panting more than the damned dog at this point.

FADERPROOF · 05-26-2005, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pezman

Must...not...sweat...on...keyboard

There is a great mental picture for ya. Hell, I might be panting more than the damned dog at this point.

Isn't there an ocean that you could go to and cool off for a few hours?

Smilin Assassin · 05-26-2005, 02:25 PM

Wow.

The last thing I ever expected to see Pez say after that November game is:

"Screw this heat"

lol

Rich Karlis · 05-26-2005, 02:27 PM

The lineset leaking after 2 years is not that un-common. Out here on the East coast the prices for R-22 (refrigerant) are going up fast. The days of manufacturing ac units that use R-22 are coming to an end soon. Get it checked out sooner rather than later before the prices on this stuff get out of hand.

TheManeMan · 05-26-2005, 02:28 PM

You're right Pez...its HOT as **** right now! Sorry to hear about your AC troubles...Hopefully you can get things working...It just seems day by day, its getting hotter and hotter...atleast we can start working on our tans already...

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FADERPROOF

Isn't there an ocean that you could go to and cool off for a few hours?

You mean this one?

Or perhaps this one?

FADERPROOF · 05-26-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pezman

You mean this one?

Or perhaps this one?

There's 2 oceans that border California?

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smilin Assassin

Wow.

The last thing I ever expected to see Pez say after that November game is:

"Screw this heat"

lol

You taint kiddin... But then again, I wasnt "that" cold in that blizzard. Or was it because of the Mile High Jesters Jello shots?

Thanks for the info Rich Karlis. I didnt know that R-22 was going the way of the dodo. Hopefully this damned unit is not using it. CB-Champ, screw this, lets go to the beach brah... Laguna sound good?

Spider · 05-26-2005, 03:16 PM

aww Cooling off ...... Here is one solution walk up and push a police officer , that right there will get you in at least booking where it is air conditioned

Nuggets4 · 05-26-2005, 03:28 PM

Damn, it's been gorgeous here. We hit 90s for a few days last week, but mostly have been high 70s. Gotta love it.

XtremeReaction · 05-26-2005, 03:29 PM

Pez.....Try this first Replace your filter if you havent already.....they need to be changed about every 2 - 3 months though I usually wait until something like this happens....If the filter is dirty as mine was last week it restricts airflow which causes freezing, which in turn does not allow for cooling.....seriously time to pull the filter and take a look it would probably located near forced heat if you have it or your blower....and filters are very cheap mine was 7.59 for a 3 pack

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XtremeReaction

Pez.....Try this first Replace your filter if you havent already.....they need to be changed about every 2 - 3 months though I usually wait until something like this happens....If the filter is dirty as mine was last week it restricts airflow which causes freezing, which in turn does not allow for cooling.....seriously time to pull the filter and take a look it would probably located near forced heat if you have it or your blower....and filters are very cheap mine was 7.59 for a 3 pack

Nah... I change the filters religiously. Believe me, with the smog and crud in the air down here, its a moral imperative to do that every few months without a doubt.

Hey ya stranger, I just realized you are back! Bout freaking time Xtreme. Been doing any gaming lately?

XtremeReaction · 05-26-2005, 03:36 PM

Been busy as hell, but lurk here religously, I have a Game Center now with 16 Gaming systems on high speed internet and 2 50 inch LCD screens with XBOX live its a pretty fun place, located right next to my computer repair and parts shop...been busier than Ive been in quite some time but still find time to sit and play with the gamers

Bronco Yoda · 05-26-2005, 04:35 PM

Hey Pez, you need to move closer to the beach. It's been in the 80's sunny and breezy here near the coast.

I heard that they're going to start charging nearly $12.00 on the 91 toll on thurs and Fri. soon. That's just crazy. only a few years ago it was only around two dollars.

Toll roads are the such a crock! Glad I don't need to use one.

05-26-2005, 01:59 PM	#1
Pezman Livin the dream Andy did you hear about this one? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Smoggy SoCal Posts: 9,833 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Ahhhhhhhhhh! Heating/AC gurus help me before I melt! Ok, so its been about freaking ungodly hot here in SoCal already this spring and we topped temps in the 100's for 4 of the past 7 days. Anyway, as always, just when you dont expect it, the AC cuts out! Horror! So, what I need to know is, my Lennox unit at my pad has crapped out after only two years of service. I am getting airflow (albeit warm) and I can hear the compressor clicking outside but the return air is coming out with regular air. I've checked the coils for ice, checked the fuses, and made sure there wasnt a short in my thermostat. Could my refrigerant have already needed a recharge after only two years of service? What the hell else could it be? Second question, how much does a recharge of freon cost usually (including the service call by HVAC tech?) I dont want to get crushed financially over this but I suspect I am going to drop a few Benjamin's over this __________________ Sitting on a beach, earning 20%

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