Fantasy Football 2005 -- Who Ya Got? - The Orange Mane

RhymesayersDU · 05-26-2005, 08:49 AM

A couple of people were discussing Fantasy Football in another thread, who they picked last year, how they turned out, etc., so I thought this might be an interesting topic.

As it stands now, who would you draft on your team? Who do you think could be drafted low and have a break out season?

And the first person to seriously answer Jerry Rice gets rep from me.

BlitzingDog · 05-26-2005, 08:53 AM

Take Tatum Bell.

MajikMan7 · 05-26-2005, 09:02 AM

This is what I'd like to get realisticly.

QB: J.Plummer, C.Palmer
RB: J.Lewis, W.Mcgahee, J.Jones, R.Dayne
WR: R.Moss, C.Johnson, A.Lelie, L.Evans
TE: J.Shockey
DF: D.Broncos
K: M.Vanderjagt "Idoiot Kicker"

RhymesayersDU · 05-26-2005, 09:09 AM

Plummer, seriously?

I think he's going to be better this year, and I like him as our QB... But he's not a huge stats guy for FF.. I don't know if I'd pick him.

And yeah Blitzin', Tatum is going to do big things, and nobody outside of Dove Valley knows who he is yet.

watermock · 05-26-2005, 09:11 AM

Dunno.

I think Lelie might be cheap, I wouldn't bet a dime on TaterTot.

I think Denver's D will be in the top 5.

Jake will throw for alot of yards, but INT's hurt your stats. He's a top 15 or so.

I think the Putz might put it together in the red zone this year, he might be a decent TE pick.

I would handcuff Clarett to TaterTot if your going that way.

Muneer Moore might be a sleeper now that the Whizzinator has been put down. Handcuff him to Bennett.

Beantown Bronco · 05-26-2005, 09:22 AM

I tend to shy away from Broncos. Their defense is statistically good, but they're not a good fantasy defense. Not enough turnovers or sacks to rack up real fantasy points. I tend to jump on a team like Baltimore or New England a round early.

Tatum Bell is fairly high on most of the early ff forecasts I'm seeing. I don't think he's the "surprise pick" most around Denver would expect.

Kerry Collins has moved up a few rounds this year I'd imagine....

RhymesayersDU · 05-26-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I tend to shy away from Broncos. Their defense is statistically good, but they're not a good fantasy defense. Not enough turnovers or sacks to rack up real fantasy points. I tend to jump on a team like Baltimore or New England a round early.

Tatum Bell is fairly high on most of the early ff forecasts I'm seeing. I don't think he's the "surprise pick" most around Denver would expect.

Kerry Collins has moved up a few rounds this year I'd imagine....

Ooooh, I forgot about Collins.. yeah with Porter and Moss, it'd be impossible for him not to put up numbers.

And people know about Tatum? That surprises me considering he didn't play much last year... But good to hear he's getting press, he's gunna be good.

bloodsunday · 05-26-2005, 09:50 AM

Jake is a good late round QB for those that invest heavily in RB and WR. There is a pretty large drop off in QBs from the top 3 (Peyton, Culpepper, and McNabb). It depends on your scoring system as well. Culpepper and McNabb are better in leagues where you only get 4pts for a passing TD and 6pts for a rushing TD. If you get 6pts for a passing TD, then Peyton is a top 3 pick overall.

I am going to wait and see how the preseason goes before selecting a Denver RB. Even then, I won't count a Denver RB higher than my #2 back because they are just too unreliable as to who plays from week to week. Depending on how camp and preseason goes, I think that Big Mo could even be the starter by year end.

Denver's WR shouldn't be considered much more than the 3rd option for most teams (in 10 or 12 team leagues). They are good for the Broncos, but not very good in FFL. They are too unreliable when it comes to scoring TDs. If your league is deep (14 - 18 teams), then these guys are more reliable as starters.

I agree that Putz could be a decent late round TE.

Our defense is worthless in traditional FFL because they don't put up turnovers and sacks. If you get points for yards allowed, then Denver's D is probably a decent D.

Pezman · 05-26-2005, 09:50 AM

I threw together a top of my head list of this year's duds and studs that I suspect will be good and bad as follows...

RB's
Priest Holmes - Dud (Injury concerns?)
Steven Jackson - Stud (Ready to tear it up with better offensive line)
Julius Jones - Stud (If the O-line can stay healthy)
Clinton Portis - Dud (Still needs better offensive support)
Lamont Jordan - Dud (will be overshadows and underused because of Moss)
Chris Brown - Dud (Injuries plaguing him)
Ladanian Tomlinson - Stud (Peak form, only late season injuries keeping him from going off the hook)
Shaun Alexander - Stud (should be legit threat for 1800 yards and tons of tds)
Rudy Johnson - Dud (tough go last year, not quite an elite back, but still should be top 30 pick)
Tiki Barber - Stud (wont have as productive a year but still solid)
Domanick Davis - Stud (look for a big jump in draft position as he will be a top 10)

WR's
Randy Moss - Stud (Should be focal point in Raider offense)
Terrell Owens - Stud (Unhappy but still money)
Reggie Wayne - Stud (Not a sleeper anymore)
Michael Clayton - Stud (has a chance to shine again)
Joe Horn - Dud (age/injuries due to catch up with him)
Chad Johnson - Stud (could be a great year or a total flop depending on QB)
Marvin Harrison - Dud (fading, not enough looks to be elite anymore)
Darrell Jackson - Stud (Hasselbeck rebound the key)
Drew Bennett - Stud (screaming for a breakout campaign)
Eric Moulds - Dud (new QB, no thanks)
Santana Moss - Dud (lay an egg once, shame on you, draft you twice, shame on me)

More later... gotta get back to work hehe...

MajikMan7 · 05-26-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Plummer, seriously?

I think he's going to be better this year, and I like him as our QB... But he's not a huge stats guy for FF.. I don't know if I'd pick him.

And yeah Blitzin', Tatum is going to do big things, and nobody outside of Dove Valley knows who he is yet.

I usually don't pick a QB until like round 6 or 7.

MajikMan7 · 05-26-2005, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pezman

I Santana Moss - Dud (lay an egg once, shame on you, draft you twice, shame on me)

Yeah. he was great for me two years ago when I picked him up as a free agent, but last year when I drafted him in the 4th round..... just horrible.

yavoon · 05-26-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Project86

This is what I'd like to get realisticly.

QB: J.Plummer, C.Palmer
RB: J.Lewis, W.Mcgahee, J.Jones, R.Dayne
WR: R.Moss, C.Johnson, A.Lelie, L.Evans
TE: J.Shockey
DF: D.Broncos
K: M.Vanderjagt "Idoiot Kicker"

I'm not sure how many ppl are in ur league. but mcgahee, moss and jamal are all very high picks. and johnson, lelie, jones are all right after them.

I'd be shocked if u could get all fo those guys.

yavoon · 05-26-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodsunday

Jake is a good late round QB for those that invest heavily in RB and WR. There is a pretty large drop off in QBs from the top 3 (Peyton, Culpepper, and McNabb). It depends on your scoring system as well. Culpepper and McNabb are better in leagues where you only get 4pts for a passing TD and 6pts for a rushing TD. If you get 6pts for a passing TD, then Peyton is a top 3 pick overall.

I am going to wait and see how the preseason goes before selecting a Denver RB. Even then, I won't count a Denver RB higher than my #2 back because they are just too unreliable as to who plays from week to week. Depending on how camp and preseason goes, I think that Big Mo could even be the starter by year end.

Denver's WR shouldn't be considered much more than the 3rd option for most teams (in 10 or 12 team leagues). They are good for the Broncos, but not very good in FFL. They are too unreliable when it comes to scoring TDs. If your league is deep (14 - 18 teams), then these guys are more reliable as starters.

I agree that Putz could be a decent late round TE.

Our defense is worthless in traditional FFL because they don't put up turnovers and sacks. If you get points for yards allowed, then Denver's D is probably a decent D.

if u get 6 for a passing td peyton is #1 w/ a bullet.

MajikMan7 · 05-26-2005, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yavoon

I'm not sure how many ppl are in ur league. but mcgahee, moss and jamal are all very high picks. and johnson, lelie, jones are all right after them.

I'd be shocked if u could get all fo those guys.

I play in a 12 person league. My roster last year looked like this.

QB: S.McNair, C.Pennington
RB: D. Mcalister, C.Dillon, T.Jones, Q.Griffen
WR:T.Holt, C.Johnson, A.Lelie, M.Clayton
TE: R.McMichael
DF: Denver
K: J.Wilkins

i4jelway7 · 05-26-2005, 10:41 AM

I'm looking to join a new league this year if anyone has any suggestions, I'd prefer a pay league w/ a cash prize

bloodsunday · 05-26-2005, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yavoon

if u get 6 for a passing td peyton is #1 w/ a bullet.

He could be. I might still opt for an elite back because its a numbers game. If you have 10 teams and are forced to start 2 backs, that's 20 backs! There are not 20 FFL starting caliber backs in the NFL. With a flex position or more teams it can get even thinner. The one HUGE upside to Peyton is he never misses time. Having Petyon at 220 yds and two TDs beats watching Jamal Lewis miss 4 games with a sprained ankle.

MajikMan7 · 05-26-2005, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i4jelway7

I'm looking to join a new league this year if anyone has any suggestions, I'd prefer a pay league w/ a cash prize

I really like playing at cbs sportsline they have a $40 league where the winner gets $200.

i4jelway7 · 05-26-2005, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Project86

I really like playing at cbs sportsline they have a $40 league where the winner gets $200.

yeah that's where I played last year, it was a private league though, winner got $300, 2nd got $200, and 3rd got $100... I finished 3rd

MajikMan7 · 05-26-2005, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i4jelway7

yeah that's where I played last year, it was a private league though, winner got $300, 2nd got $200, and 3rd got $100... I finished 3rd

How much did that cost? I'm playing in a private money league this year and I might have a team in one of the OrangeMane leagues at yahoo.

i4jelway7 · 05-26-2005, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Project86

How much did that cost? I'm playing in a private money league this year and I might have a team in one of the OrangeMane leagues at yahoo.

each team was $60

I'd like to get in a private league again this year

DrFate · 05-26-2005, 11:15 AM

I worry about Bell and the Clarett factor. I think Clarett is a bum, but I don't know how many carries he might see.

Plummer isn't that good a fantasy guy unless he really cuts down on his INTs.

Putzier might be a fantasy option considering Winslow is out and Heap is still hurt.

RhymesayersDU · 05-26-2005, 11:22 AM

If you guys are looking for pay leagues, go to Rod Smith's website, rodsmith80.com ... I think he's doing a FF league with prizes and ****.. I don't know if you can get cash prizes, but they said they're going to make it really cool, so you never know, autographed stuff, good tickets, etc might be up for grabs.

Rascal · 05-26-2005, 11:42 AM

Some key things to watch this summer for fantasy regarding RB's:

Will Ricky Williams come back and have in impact with Miami. If not Ronnie Brown is a solid #3 RB.

Will Carnell Williams split time with Pittman in Tampa Bay? Pittman was a solid #3 RB last year, but if they split time both will suffer.

Will JJ Arrington establish himself as the #1 runner in Arizona and will their line improve with the addition of man boobs. E Smith was also a solid #3 RB and JJ should meet those numbers if he stays healthy and is the #1 runner.

Will Cedric Benson take over in Chicago and will the return of Grossman and the addition of Muhammaud make their offense better.

Is there going to be an o-line in Green Bay? Losing two of the elite guards in the game is going to kill Ahman Greens average.

Will Tiki Barber continue to have the support and confidence of Coughlin or will his carries be taken away and go back to his "Thunder and Lightning Days".

Is Kevin Barlow's heavy offseason workout be enough to keep Gore off the field? If Barlow struggles in the preseason Gore would be an excellent sleeper pick.

Will Travis Henry be traded? If a team loses their #1 RB in the preseason or camp (see Shipp from Arizona last year) he will obviously be of greater fantasy value.

Who to pick in Carolina. With a running based offensive scheme whoever is their RB will succeed...Nick Goings is a prime example. Do you think Davis or Foster stay healthy? If not taking a flyer on Shelton would be a good move.

Is Duece McAllister going to return to form after a disappointing year. The wanna be coach says yes, time will tell.

Is Tatum going to be the man in Denver. Shanny has shown that he won't stand fumbles, and with Tatum's history in college and limited NFL experience a flyer on Mike Anderson or Q will be advisable

Can Chris Brown stay healthy or is he a modern Fred Taylor. Both have potential to be solid #2's, but with health concerns may fall to #3 material.

Will Kevin Jones live up to his potential after a disappointing rookie year?

How many carries will Marshall Faulk steal from Stephen Jackson?

RhymesayersDU · 05-26-2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rascal

How many carries will Marshall Faulk steal from Stephen Jackson?

I don't think many. I believe it's pretty much set that Jackson will be the starter this year, although I could be mistaken.

Oh, and I don't know if this is "news" per se, but Arizona named Warner the starter... I'm not big on him, but he's got good WR's, you never know.

MileHighMania · 05-26-2005, 11:47 AM

It's never too early to talk fantasy football. We have some 'tidbits' on the front page of our site and soon will be releasing regularly scheduled content. (all free ... "cheap plug")

Anyway, regarding Plummer ... he was a top 10-12 fantasy QB in a lot of leagues last year, despite the high INTs. He was top 10 in the two leagues that I played.

This year, RBs are plentiful! Potential early round RBs (rounds 3-4) are guys like Jackson, Bell, Martin, JJ Arrington, Benson, C Williams, R Brown, the Falcons' duo, Vikings' RBs and several others.

I really think McGahee, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones and D Davis are going to all finish in the Top 10 by seasons' end.

There are also several key receivers that can be picked in the 5th-7th rounds that could be #2 starters.

I think Muhsin has the "biggest bust" potential written all over him at this point, I think many will take him early hoping he can get near his 2004 numbers, but I think he'll struggle to break 1,000 yards unless the Bears get on track early.

I'm also leary of Derrick Mason and Curtis Martin... I am just not sold on Baltimore, even though they appear to be more balanced and they have Fassel running the offense. I think Boller sucks, but he could prove me wrong... Mason has #2 receiver talent, but I wouldn't draft him unless I already had 3 receivers.

Curtis Martin should do well, but he won't repeat the 2004 season and I don't think his production will justify being drafted prior to Round 3.

I think Carr and Palmer will bust loose in 2005. These are two QBs that will be drafted as #2 on many teams, likely rounds 7-10 and by week 4 they should be rolling.

05-26-2005, 09:50 AM	#9
Pezman Livin the dream Andy did you hear about this one? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Smoggy SoCal Posts: 9,833 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	I threw together a top of my head list of this year's duds and studs that I suspect will be good and bad as follows... RB's Priest Holmes - Dud (Injury concerns?) Steven Jackson - Stud (Ready to tear it up with better offensive line) Julius Jones - Stud (If the O-line can stay healthy) Clinton Portis - Dud (Still needs better offensive support) Lamont Jordan - Dud (will be overshadows and underused because of Moss) Chris Brown - Dud (Injuries plaguing him) Ladanian Tomlinson - Stud (Peak form, only late season injuries keeping him from going off the hook) Shaun Alexander - Stud (should be legit threat for 1800 yards and tons of tds) Rudy Johnson - Dud (tough go last year, not quite an elite back, but still should be top 30 pick) Tiki Barber - Stud (wont have as productive a year but still solid) Domanick Davis - Stud (look for a big jump in draft position as he will be a top 10) WR's Randy Moss - Stud (Should be focal point in Raider offense) Terrell Owens - Stud (Unhappy but still money) Reggie Wayne - Stud (Not a sleeper anymore) Michael Clayton - Stud (has a chance to shine again) Joe Horn - Dud (age/injuries due to catch up with him) Chad Johnson - Stud (could be a great year or a total flop depending on QB) Marvin Harrison - Dud (fading, not enough looks to be elite anymore) Darrell Jackson - Stud (Hasselbeck rebound the key) Drew Bennett - Stud (screaming for a breakout campaign) Eric Moulds - Dud (new QB, no thanks) Santana Moss - Dud (lay an egg once, shame on you, draft you twice, shame on me) More later... gotta get back to work hehe... __________________ Sitting on a beach, earning 20%

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05-26-2005, 08:49 AM	#1
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Fantasy Football 2005 -- Who Ya Got? A couple of people were discussing Fantasy Football in another thread, who they picked last year, how they turned out, etc., so I thought this might be an interesting topic. As it stands now, who would you draft on your team? Who do you think could be drafted low and have a break out season? And the first person to seriously answer Jerry Rice gets rep from me.

05-26-2005, 08:53 AM	#2
BlitzingDog #1 Chief Hater Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 1,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Williams	Take Tatum Bell.

05-26-2005, 09:02 AM	#3
MajikMan7 Voice of Reason Alando 'National TV' Tucker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,070 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jake Plummer	This is what I'd like to get realisticly. QB: J.Plummer, C.Palmer RB: J.Lewis, W.Mcgahee, J.Jones, R.Dayne WR: R.Moss, C.Johnson, A.Lelie, L.Evans TE: J.Shockey DF: D.Broncos K: M.Vanderjagt "Idoiot Kicker"

05-26-2005, 09:09 AM	#4
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Plummer, seriously? I think he's going to be better this year, and I like him as our QB... But he's not a huge stats guy for FF.. I don't know if I'd pick him. And yeah Blitzin', Tatum is going to do big things, and nobody outside of Dove Valley knows who he is yet.

05-26-2005, 09:11 AM	#5
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Dunno. I think Lelie might be cheap, I wouldn't bet a dime on TaterTot. I think Denver's D will be in the top 5. Jake will throw for alot of yards, but INT's hurt your stats. He's a top 15 or so. I think the Putz might put it together in the red zone this year, he might be a decent TE pick. I would handcuff Clarett to TaterTot if your going that way. Muneer Moore might be a sleeper now that the Whizzinator has been put down. Handcuff him to Bennett.

05-26-2005, 09:22 AM	#6
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	I tend to shy away from Broncos. Their defense is statistically good, but they're not a good fantasy defense. Not enough turnovers or sacks to rack up real fantasy points. I tend to jump on a team like Baltimore or New England a round early. Tatum Bell is fairly high on most of the early ff forecasts I'm seeing. I don't think he's the "surprise pick" most around Denver would expect. Kerry Collins has moved up a few rounds this year I'd imagine....

05-26-2005, 09:50 AM	#8
bloodsunday Ring of Famer Nothing lasts forever. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dove Valley Posts: 5,839 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	Jake is a good late round QB for those that invest heavily in RB and WR. There is a pretty large drop off in QBs from the top 3 (Peyton, Culpepper, and McNabb). It depends on your scoring system as well. Culpepper and McNabb are better in leagues where you only get 4pts for a passing TD and 6pts for a rushing TD. If you get 6pts for a passing TD, then Peyton is a top 3 pick overall. I am going to wait and see how the preseason goes before selecting a Denver RB. Even then, I won't count a Denver RB higher than my #2 back because they are just too unreliable as to who plays from week to week. Depending on how camp and preseason goes, I think that Big Mo could even be the starter by year end. Denver's WR shouldn't be considered much more than the 3rd option for most teams (in 10 or 12 team leagues). They are good for the Broncos, but not very good in FFL. They are too unreliable when it comes to scoring TDs. If your league is deep (14 - 18 teams), then these guys are more reliable as starters. I agree that Putz could be a decent late round TE. Our defense is worthless in traditional FFL because they don't put up turnovers and sacks. If you get points for yards allowed, then Denver's D is probably a decent D.

05-26-2005, 10:41 AM	#15
i4jelway7 Ring of Famer :notworthy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,873	I'm looking to join a new league this year if anyone has any suggestions, I'd prefer a pay league w/ a cash prize

05-26-2005, 11:15 AM	#21
DrFate Lord of Order Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tower of Fate Posts: 4,388	I worry about Bell and the Clarett factor. I think Clarett is a bum, but I don't know how many carries he might see. Plummer isn't that good a fantasy guy unless he really cuts down on his INTs. Putzier might be a fantasy option considering Winslow is out and Heap is still hurt.

05-26-2005, 11:22 AM	#22
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	If you guys are looking for pay leagues, go to Rod Smith's website, rodsmith80.com ... I think he's doing a FF league with prizes and ****.. I don't know if you can get cash prizes, but they said they're going to make it really cool, so you never know, autographed stuff, good tickets, etc might be up for grabs.

05-26-2005, 11:42 AM	#23
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Some key things to watch this summer for fantasy regarding RB's: Will Ricky Williams come back and have in impact with Miami. If not Ronnie Brown is a solid #3 RB. Will Carnell Williams split time with Pittman in Tampa Bay? Pittman was a solid #3 RB last year, but if they split time both will suffer. Will JJ Arrington establish himself as the #1 runner in Arizona and will their line improve with the addition of man boobs. E Smith was also a solid #3 RB and JJ should meet those numbers if he stays healthy and is the #1 runner. Will Cedric Benson take over in Chicago and will the return of Grossman and the addition of Muhammaud make their offense better. Is there going to be an o-line in Green Bay? Losing two of the elite guards in the game is going to kill Ahman Greens average. Will Tiki Barber continue to have the support and confidence of Coughlin or will his carries be taken away and go back to his "Thunder and Lightning Days". Is Kevin Barlow's heavy offseason workout be enough to keep Gore off the field? If Barlow struggles in the preseason Gore would be an excellent sleeper pick. Will Travis Henry be traded? If a team loses their #1 RB in the preseason or camp (see Shipp from Arizona last year) he will obviously be of greater fantasy value. Who to pick in Carolina. With a running based offensive scheme whoever is their RB will succeed...Nick Goings is a prime example. Do you think Davis or Foster stay healthy? If not taking a flyer on Shelton would be a good move. Is Duece McAllister going to return to form after a disappointing year. The wanna be coach says yes, time will tell. Is Tatum going to be the man in Denver. Shanny has shown that he won't stand fumbles, and with Tatum's history in college and limited NFL experience a flyer on Mike Anderson or Q will be advisable Can Chris Brown stay healthy or is he a modern Fred Taylor. Both have potential to be solid #2's, but with health concerns may fall to #3 material. Will Kevin Jones live up to his potential after a disappointing rookie year? How many carries will Marshall Faulk steal from Stephen Jackson?

05-26-2005, 11:47 AM	#25
MileHighMania Smile and wave, boys Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tejas Posts: 1,073	It's never too early to talk fantasy football. We have some 'tidbits' on the front page of our site and soon will be releasing regularly scheduled content. (all free ... "cheap plug") Anyway, regarding Plummer ... he was a top 10-12 fantasy QB in a lot of leagues last year, despite the high INTs. He was top 10 in the two leagues that I played. This year, RBs are plentiful! Potential early round RBs (rounds 3-4) are guys like Jackson, Bell, Martin, JJ Arrington, Benson, C Williams, R Brown, the Falcons' duo, Vikings' RBs and several others. I really think McGahee, Julius Jones, Kevin Jones and D Davis are going to all finish in the Top 10 by seasons' end. There are also several key receivers that can be picked in the 5th-7th rounds that could be #2 starters. I think Muhsin has the "biggest bust" potential written all over him at this point, I think many will take him early hoping he can get near his 2004 numbers, but I think he'll struggle to break 1,000 yards unless the Bears get on track early. I'm also leary of Derrick Mason and Curtis Martin... I am just not sold on Baltimore, even though they appear to be more balanced and they have Fassel running the offense. I think Boller sucks, but he could prove me wrong... Mason has #2 receiver talent, but I wouldn't draft him unless I already had 3 receivers. Curtis Martin should do well, but he won't repeat the 2004 season and I don't think his production will justify being drafted prior to Round 3. I think Carr and Palmer will bust loose in 2005. These are two QBs that will be drafted as #2 on many teams, likely rounds 7-10 and by week 4 they should be rolling.