Broncos add OG Spikes. - The Orange Mane

Smilin Assassin · 05-23-2005, 11:04 AM

Just think, if we go after Shelton, we could have the Browns' D-line and the Cards' O-line.

Yay.

Spikes in Sight for Week 2 of Quarterback Camp
By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. == The second week of quarterback camp dawned with the Broncos making another veteran addition to their roster.

This time, the newest Bronco was seven-season NFL veteran guard Cameron Spikes, who signed with the club Monday morning and then immediately reported to quarterback-camp practice, donning jersey number 73.

Spikes started 25 games in the past two years -- eight at right guard and 17 at left guard. He played in all 32 Arizona contests over the past two seasons after joining the team from the Houston Texans in the 2003 offseason.

He is the second former Cardinals offensive lineman to join the Broncos in the past month. Offensive tackle Anthony Clement signed with Denver three days after the 2005 NFL Draft. Unlike Clement, Spikes was an unrestricted free agent whose contract had expired; Arizona released Clement the day after the draft, opening the door for the Broncos to procure him.

Spikes broke into the NFL in 1999 as a fifth-round pick of the St. Louis Rams as an offensive tackle. The 6-foot-4, 313-pounder spent three seasons with the Rams as a reserve on teams that went a combined 42-13, and saw action on special teams in Super Bowl XXXVI.

The Rams waived him in the following preseason, and the Houston Texans picked him up, shifting him from tackle to guard. He subsequently played in 12 games in the Texans' inaugural season, starting five at left guard.

bombquixote · 05-23-2005, 11:27 AM

finally. i was beginning to think we were never going to bolster the o-line.

bloodsunday · 05-23-2005, 11:35 AM

Why was this guy available? FA? Cut?

Sir Mawn · 05-23-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bombquixote

finally. i was beginning to think we were never going to bolster the o-line.

How good is this guy? Is it a "depth" signing or could he be a projected starter at some point?

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 11:38 AM

probably more camp fodder

DBroncos4life · 05-23-2005, 11:40 AM

To think if we didn't re-up Coop there is a chance that we have enough money to sign Shelton.

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

To think if we didn't re-up Coop there is a chance that we have enough money to sign Shelton.

IMO, coop's no worse than Hamilton....the Broncos OL is pretty average from top to bottom

Smilin Assassin · 05-23-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodsunday

Why was this guy available? FA? Cut?

Unrestricted Free Agent

DBroncos4life · 05-23-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

IMO, coop's no worse than Hamilton....the Broncos OL is pretty average from top to bottom

I hate to say this but your opinion is always NEGITIVE so what else is new.

bloodsunday · 05-23-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

IMO, coop's no worse than Hamilton....the Broncos OL is pretty average from top to bottom

Blasphemy! Our "system" supercedes the need for talent... (picking up my sarcasm?)

I whole-heartedly agree with the assessment that our o-line play is average. If I were gonna change one thing about this team other than our d-line, it would be our o-line. I know I sound like a broken record, but there is much more to o-line play than a 1,000 yard back. I would say that we are average or below in every facet of o-line play other than having a 1,000 yard back (pass blocking, redzone blocking, short yardage blocking).

bloodsunday · 05-23-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I hate to say this but your opinion is always NEGITIVE so what else is new.

It may be negetive, but can you really argue against it? Jake is running for his life on every snap in which he drops back more than 5 steps. Our redzone production is just better than a highschool team and we missed repeated attempts to convert 3 and 1 last season (3 in the loss to Oakland). The level of play, especially on the interior, has been dropping for some years now.

DBroncos4life · 05-23-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodsunday

Blasphemy! Our "system" supercedes the need for talent... (picking up my sarcasm?)

I whole-heartedly agree with the assessment that our o-line play is average. If I were gonna change one thing about this team other than our d-line, it would be our o-line. I know I sound like a broken record, but there is much more to o-line play than a 1,000 yard back. I would say that we are average or below in every facet of o-line play other than having a 1,000 yard back (pass blocking, redzone blocking, short yardage blocking).

Yeah really we need to cut the sacks in half. 15 is far to many to allow. 1,000 yard backs are one thing but the TEAM gets over 2000 yards rushing year in and year out. As far as the redzone goes, not all should be put on the Oline. Not much changed from 04 besides the RB and that Oline could get a push in the RZ.

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I hate to say this but your opinion is always NEGITIVE so what else is new.

oops sorry!! I forgot I was at the Orange Mane:

WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

SPIKES OWNz!!!!!!!!

SUPER BOWL HERE WE COME!!!!!! 19-0 BABY!

DBroncos4life · 05-23-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

oops sorry!! I forgot I was at the Orange Mane:

WOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

SPIKES OWNz!!!!!!!!

SUPER BOWL HERE WE COME!!!!!! 19-0 BABY!

I'm not talking about just Spikes here.

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

I'm not talking about just Spikes here.

no kidding?

Connecticut Bronco Fan · 05-23-2005, 11:54 AM

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Just think, if we go after Shelton, we could have the Browns' D-line and the Cards' O-line.

Wasn't that the plan from the start?

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 12:01 PM

The newest members of the Denver Broncos are introduced to the media

bloodsunday · 05-23-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Yeah really we need to cut the sacks in half. 15 is far to many to allow.

True, but that is not just a function of o-line play. We run the ball a lot (2nd most attempts in the league), Jake rolls out a lot, and we run a lot of quick drops. Not to mention that Jake is expected to scramble out of trouble. Griese was sacked 34 times as Denver's QB in 2002. Jake's mobility is afterall the driving force behind his acquisition.

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

1,000 yard backs are one thing but the TEAM gets over 2000 yards rushing year in and year out.

How many TD runs did we convert in the redzone? We finished 4th in the NFL in rushing yards, yet we finished 15th, behind power house teams like Cincy, Dallas, Houston, and Arizona. You are making my point for me. The o-line "system" works fine when it doesn't matter. But in the redzone it breaks down. This team needs more talent at that position.

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

As far as the redzone goes, not all should be put on the Oline.

No not all the blame goes on their shoulders. The point is that our o-line play is average and that statistics support that. I think anyone that watches the games can see that as well. The Denver staff does a good job of getting the most from the system (high rushing ydg, low sacks), but the talent level needs to improve in order to dominate key areas in the game like the redzone.

eddie mac · 05-23-2005, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

IMO, coop's no worse than Hamilton....the Broncos OL is pretty average from top to bottom

I disagree to an extent. We currently have a line which helps our backs average 2500 yards rushing per season and helps limit QB sacks to an average of 20 over the last 2 seasons. Think you'll find as a unit they are one of the top 10 lines in football. Individually there are no stars apart from Nalen who was considered one of the best at his position a few years ago.

Florida_Bronco · 05-23-2005, 01:25 PM

I have to agree with DBroncos4life, our o-line play is pretty solid I think, and with Foster getting more comfortable/experience and Lepesis working on the left side, we should be fine.

Not to mention we will most likely have more depth this year than last year.

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 01:41 PM

yeah, they're solid/average.....good between the 20's, but below average when it came to short yardage and redzone situations.

watermock · 05-23-2005, 01:43 PM

Our line is fairly strong. It's not dominating, hell, Jake throws better on the run than in the pocket anyway.

This isn't a bad signing at all. Pimp Daddy Green is putting his own stamp on the team, just like what's his name in Cleveland. If they suck, there is a thing called the waiver wire. We just cut line. No big deal.

Unlike Women, experience counts on the OL. Not that an experienced woman is a bad thing, it's just a fun thing to teach in that instance. Ok, I'm rambling. It takes quite awhile to teach an OL, a DL can pretty much go Dog and hunt. Considering the fact we almost lost both Hamilton and Coop, now we have brought in a couple more, I'm feeling more comfortable with the OL. If Hamilton moves to center next year, we have some depth now. Myers hopefully can play, we have shored up the guard spot. I'm giving the plan a strong B. Shelton would be a nice addition, but I dunno if we have any money left, and other teams will be hunting. We have been grooming house to backup Lepsis, and Clement can back up Big George at RT. I don't know why people are slamming our line. We had a backup fullback rush for 1300 last year.

Bring in a vet WR and we are ready to roll. Not a great team, but servicable. Not to bring up next years draft, but we will have 9 picks next year, many of them will be first day. 2 firsts, 2 4ths. Might be time to look for that next Duke of Denver, but I don't have a clue who that is. If Jake washes out this year, I say we move on.

Hercules Rockefeller · 05-23-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

yeah, they're solid/average.....good between the 20's, but below average when it came to short yardage and redzone situations.

This has ALWAYS been a problem with the Broncos OL since Shanahan took over. There is a drawback to the smaller lines, and this is where it arises. Even when guys like Zim, T-Bone, and Schlereth were on the line with TD running the ball, the Broncos had trouble in short yardage situations. There's a reason why they've always run a ton of misdirection in those situations.

bronco militia · 05-23-2005, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

This has ALWAYS been a problem with the Broncos OL since Shanahan took over. There is a drawback to the smaller lines, and this is where it arises. Even when guys like Zim, T-Bone, and Schlereth were on the line with TD running the ball, the Broncos had trouble in short yardage situations. There's a reason why they've always run a ton of misdirection in those situations.

I don't recall many times watching TD get stuffed like the Broncos OL of the past 4 or 5 seasons.

Sometimes Shanny would try to get away with running TD 3 or 4 straight plays.

anyway, the OL hasn't seemed the same since T-Bone retired/quit.

watermock · 05-23-2005, 01:55 PM

I'm just praying the Mo can bring back the pitch play to the left. It was our bread and butter in the 90's, and it totally vanished, even with Portis. I think Mo can run that play if our line can get a hole and occupy the Will LB.

The "Plan" started out pretty shakey, and we have some real head cases, but considering our cap situation, I think we covered up some scars.

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Smilin Assassin Tradition Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,621	Broncos add OG Spikes. Just think, if we go after Shelton, we could have the Browns' D-line and the Cards' O-line. Yay. Spikes in Sight for Week 2 of Quarterback Camp By Andrew Mason DenverBroncos.com ENGLEWOOD, Colo. == The second week of quarterback camp dawned with the Broncos making another veteran addition to their roster. This time, the newest Bronco was seven-season NFL veteran guard Cameron Spikes, who signed with the club Monday morning and then immediately reported to quarterback-camp practice, donning jersey number 73. Spikes started 25 games in the past two years -- eight at right guard and 17 at left guard. He played in all 32 Arizona contests over the past two seasons after joining the team from the Houston Texans in the 2003 offseason. He is the second former Cardinals offensive lineman to join the Broncos in the past month. Offensive tackle Anthony Clement signed with Denver three days after the 2005 NFL Draft. Unlike Clement, Spikes was an unrestricted free agent whose contract had expired; Arizona released Clement the day after the draft, opening the door for the Broncos to procure him. Spikes broke into the NFL in 1999 as a fifth-round pick of the St. Louis Rams as an offensive tackle. The 6-foot-4, 313-pounder spent three seasons with the Rams as a reserve on teams that went a combined 42-13, and saw action on special teams in Super Bowl XXXVI. The Rams waived him in the following preseason, and the Houston Texans picked him up, shifting him from tackle to guard. He subsequently played in 12 games in the Texans' inaugural season, starting five at left guard.

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