Keeper picks! Help needed!

[Nidzge]

Ok, so I play in keeper league, and we pick 4 keepers. The league rules: 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF. TD=6pts, 10 rec/rushing yds=1 pt, 25 passing yds =1 pt. My team looks like this:

QB - Trent Green, Carr
RB - Curtis Martin, Jullius Jones, Tatum Bell, Michael Pittman
WR - Randy Moss, T.O., Drew Bennett, Michael Clayton (TB), Koren Robinson
TE - Wiggins
K - Stover
DEF - Philadelphia

So my picks are: Moss, T.O., Jullus Jones and Bell (I didn't pick Martin b/c of age issue). So what's your thoughts
Thanx in advance

[MileHighMania]

Originally Posted by Nidzge

Ok, so I play in keeper league, and we pick 4 keepers. The league rules: 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF. TD=6pts, 10 rec/rushing yds=1 pt, 25 passing yds =1 pt. My team looks like this:

QB - Trent Green, Carr
RB - Curtis Martin, Jullius Jones, Tatum Bell, Michael Pittman
WR - Randy Moss, T.O., Drew Bennett, Michael Clayton (TB), Koren Robinson
TE - Wiggins
K - Stover
DEF - Philadelphia

So my picks are: Moss, T.O., Jullus Jones and Bell (I didn't pick Martin b/c of age issue). So what's your thoughts
Thanx in advance

When do you have to declare your keepers?

The only thing that scares me about Bell is that we haven't seen how the camps and preseason has played out. I think Bell should do really well, but if he acquires a fumbling problem, he's out. In fantasy football, Denver and Vikings' RBs scare the **** out of me. Last season I had Droughns, then bam - Bell was the man for the last month and didn't do much.

Moss, TO and Jones are easy picks here. If you have time to hold off on a decision, I'd take all the time you have available. If there are no issues and Bell is the starter (which he should be) then yeah, I'd keep him over Martin.

The only QB I would keep would be Manning, he's sensational and you can get a very nice starting QB in rounds 4 and 5 for the most part.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Nidzge

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So my picks are: Moss, T.O., Jullus Jones and Bell (I didn't pick Martin b/c of age issue). So what's your thoughts
Thanx in advance

That is exactly where I would go with it...

[pabst81]

I'd have to say that Bell would be the better pick then Jones and that a Clayton or Jones debate could be warrented. I personaly don't think Bledsoe will scare too many defenses and although your taking a slight chance that Bell might not be the starter, the reward far out-weighs the risk considering someone will put up big games for the Broncs. As far as Clayton goes I'm a big fan. If I were in your shoes and had to pick today I would probably chose Jones, but would strongly consider Clayton over him consider the Bucs acquisition of Williams and just the fact that it's a Gruden offense and the QB has to throw to somebody.

[Crow]

Moss is a given.

TO scares me a little, as he might hold out. I'd actually be trying to trade him if I could get good value for him.

Julius Jones Should be solid if he can stay healthy.

Bell is risky as a keeper. I prefer proven players as my keepers.

Clayton is damn tempting.

Honestly, I'd keep Cu-Mart over Bell and possibly Jones based simply on the fact that you know almost unequivocally that he's going to get you 1200+ yards and 8 TDs. The other two guys are relative unknowns at this point. I say trade them both for 1st or 2nd round picks and shoot for Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, or JJ Arrington in the 2nd round. One of those guys should be available then.

[Arkie]

The givens are Jones, Bell, and Moss. The choice is between Martin and T.O. You need two good running backs to win. Martin is insurance.

I need help with my team. We have 12 keepers. Our WR limit is five. My five are: T.O., Hines Ward, Ashley Lelie, Rod Smith, and Mark Clayton. I'm struggling with the idea of cutting Rod Smith to make room for one of the rookies. We have our rookie draft in June, and there are several good rookie WRs this year. I pick 6th, and Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, and Cedric Benson will be gone. I'll have to go receiver.

[Nidzge]

What do you guys think of trading T.O.+Bell (or C.Martin) for RB such as: Alexander or Edge or Willis McGahee or Domanic Davis or even McAllister, and than my keepers will be Moss, Clayton, Jones and the newest aquisition via trade. Do I give too much or it isn't sufficient for such premium backs

[dustybottoms]

Originally Posted by Nidzge

So my picks are: Moss, T.O., Jullus Jones and Bell (I didn't pick Martin b/c of age issue). So what's your thoughts
Thanx in advance

I like M. Clayton alot, maybe better than Bell.

[Nidzge]

I traded T.O.+Bell+Martin for Shaun Alexander. Maybe it is a lot, but I could't keep all of those players anyway, so it is practicaly T.O.+Bell for Alexander. My keepers now are: Moss, Clayton, Shaun Alexander and J.Jones. Is this a good move Do you think this is upgraded keepers insted of Moss, T.O., J.Jones and Bell (or Clayton or Martin)

[MileHighMania]

Originally Posted by Nidzge

I traded T.O.+Bell+Martin for Shaun Alexander. Maybe it is a lot, but I could't keep all of those players anyway, so it is practicaly T.O.+Bell for Alexander. My keepers now are: Moss, Clayton, Shaun Alexander and J.Jones. Is this a good move Do you think this is upgraded keepers insted of Moss, T.O., J.Jones and Bell (or Clayton or Martin)

I like the trade... Alexander is proven value at RB. You couldn't keep them all, so trading away for a guy like Alexander is solid.

Bell is risky b/c we don't know if he is going to live up to the billing. Denver has a history of the badass back not showing up until week 4.

So, keeping Alexander and Jones is a great 1-2 punch. Alexander is a top 3 RB and Jones is viewed by many as a late R1 pick, definitely a high R2 pick in a 12 team draft. So, you're rock solid there.

Moss is money and will do really well in Oakland and I had Clayton last year, he was solid as a rookie. Clayton should do great things again in 2005.

[MileHighMania]

Originally Posted by Bosko

I need help with my team. We have 12 keepers.

Our WR limit is five. My five are: T.O., Hines Ward, Ashley Lelie, Rod Smith, and Mark Clayton.

I'm struggling with the idea of cutting Rod Smith to make room for one of the rookies. We have our rookie draft in June, and there are several good rookie WRs this year. I pick 6th, and Ronnie Brown, Cadillac, and Cedric Benson will be gone. I'll have to go receiver.

I think Lelie and Rod ... should Lelie prove that 2004 was no fluke, will have simlar numbers again in 2005. So, seeing as how youth favors Lelie in a keeper scenario, I'd drop Rod.

Don't forget about rookie RB JJ Arrington in Arizona. He's low on many radars, but is starting to rise due to the news that he's making in the desert.

I don't know that I'd take any rookie WR over JJ Arrington at this point.

Braylon Edwards? No, I would not. Mike Williams in Detroit? Likely not, he's not the #1 option. Mark Clayton - Ravens / Roddy White - Falcons / Troy Williamson - Vikings?

I just don't think I'd take any of those rookie WRs over Arrington. Rookie WRs with the Ravens and Falcons don't put confidence in me. Williamson will be the #2 and at times #3 option with the Vikings, but he likely has the potential to have the best season.

[dustybottoms]

Originally Posted by MileHighMania

I don't know that I'd take any rookie WR over JJ Arrington at this point.

Braylon Edwards? No, I would not. Mike Williams in Detroit? Likely not, he's not the #1 option. Mark Clayton - Ravens / Roddy White - Falcons / Troy Williamson - Vikings?

I just don't think I'd take any of those rookie WRs over Arrington. Rookie WRs with the Ravens and Falcons don't put confidence in me. Williamson will be the #2 and at times #3 option with the Vikings, but he likely has the potential to have the best season.

Braylon Edwards and Mark Clayton seem to be a better option than Arrington. In my eyes all of the rookies listed have serious competition at their respected positions, only Clayton seems to be on a team desperate for a starting WR. and Edwards because of his draft position, will be thrust into the starting lineup, and should produce.

[MileHighMania]

Originally Posted by dustybottoms

Braylon Edwards and Mark Clayton seem to be a better option than Arrington. In my eyes all of the rookies listed have serious competition at their respected positions, only Clayton seems to be on a team desperate for a starting WR. and Edwards because of his draft position, will be thrust into the starting lineup, and should produce.

I'm just looking at it from a consistent points producing perspective ...

I don't think that many will disagree with the notion that rookie RBs have more of an impact more frequently than rookie receivers. Sure, there are 1 or 2 rookie receivers that do really well every year, but if I'm looking at drafting a rookie for a keeper slot, I'm likely going RB in this scenario.

I think that Clayton or Edwards would be doing very well to break 700 yards and 5 TDs in 2005. I think that's about the most one could imagine when you look at the offenses.

However, Arrington has a chance to be an 1,100 yard RB possibly with another 150-200 yards receiving and upwards of 12 total TDs.

Quality RBs are a premium in fantasy football and having a guy like Arrington as a #3 behind Alexander and Jones would be huge. I think that would pay more dividends than a rookie receiver who will struggle more often than a rookie RB.

[Nidzge]

I have one more question. In keeper draft, if LaMont Jordan, Westbrook, or 4 rookie RBs (Benson, Williams, JJ.Arrington or Brown) slips to me who would you draft in order Also I will definately keep 2 RB and 2 WR, if none of those players are available who would you try to get with fifth round pick (QB, RB or WR - I asume that elite TE will be already kept by other teams).

[MileHighMania]

Originally Posted by Nidzge

I have one more question. In keeper draft, if LaMont Jordan, Westbrook, or 4 rookie RBs (Benson, Williams, JJ.Arrington or Brown) slips to me who would you draft in order Also I will definately keep 2 RB and 2 WR, if none of those players are available who would you try to get with fifth round pick (QB, RB or WR - I asume that elite TE will be already kept by other teams).

Hmmm... regarding the keepers. Jordan is entering his 5th season in 2005 compared to the rookies being 5 years younger, roughly. So, from a keeper aspect and looking at youth, I'd likely put Jordan 5th on the list behind the rookies.

Looking at the rookies, it's really tough to draw any distinctions among them at this point since none of them have played.

Benson is a guy I might slot as #1 only because I think he proved in college, more than the others, that he can be the 20-25 carry a game back and produce consistently. Brown and Williams split time at Auburn, so neither had to be "the guy". It doesn't mean they can't dominate. And, I think Arrington is the wildcard here, he's got the least pressure from a competition standpoint. Meaning, I think he'll easily beat out Shipp and have more carries in 2005, putting him ahead of the curve. Benson has Thomas Jones pushing him and Williams has Pittman, while Brown may have Williams.

So, if you pushed me to rank them... I might go Benson, Arrington, Brown, Williams and Jordan.