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Old 05-04-2005, 03:12 PM   #1
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Incredible! This guy is too much. He's using a surgeon who the team hasn't approved, doing rehab the team hasn't approved and now is trying to keep secret a third surgery on his knee.

"My original plans were to wait a week before reporting on my condition so I would have a better idea on how my leg was responding," Bonds wrote. "Due to informational leaks ... the media has been contacting my PR firm asking about my status. So, before any hearsay or false information is reported, I wanted you to hear about my condition directly from me."

SAN FRANCISCO - Barry Bonds had a third operation on his injured right knee, the latest setback in the slugger's rehabilitation, he said on his Web site Wednesday.
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Bonds underwent arthroscopic surgery Monday in Southern California as doctors tried to clean out an infection, first draining fluids from his knee, according to a journal entry from Bonds posted on his Web site.

"The surgery went well. Dr. (Arthur) Ting cleaned out the infected area and they are now treating me with antibiotics," Bonds wrote. "I know you have many questions regarding me playing baseball but right now I have to spend the time focusing on getting healthy. I've been through ups and downs before and I will be back."

The surgery was first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle. The newspaper reported Bonds would take antibiotics for at least two weeks and could not resume his rehab until doctors are assured the infection is gone.

Bonds already had operations on the knee Jan. 31 and March 17 to remove damaged cartilage.

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San Francisco Giants have stopped giving medical updates on Bonds, and his agent on Tuesday would not confirm that Bonds had the operation.

"The only comment I have about Barry is that the day his knee is healthy, he will be back on the field in uniform," Jeff Borris said.

Bonds has been giving his medical updates on his personal Web site but did not mention the surgery until Wednesday.

"My original plans were to wait a week before reporting on my condition so I would have a better idea on how my leg was responding," Bonds wrote. "Due to informational leaks ... the media has been contacting my PR firm asking about my status. So, before any hearsay or false information is reported, I wanted you to hear about my condition directly from me."

That will likely delay Bonds' return and the resumption of his quest for baseball's career home run record even longer. In an outburst during spring training, Bonds said he might not be back for at least half the season, maybe the whole season.

The 40-year-old Bonds has 703 career home runs, 11 behind Babe Ruth and 52 from tying Hank Aaron's career record. Bonds batted .362 last season with 45 homers and 101 RBIs and also walked a major league-record 232 times on the way to his record seventh MVP award.

This is just the third time in his career he's gone on the disabled list and the first since April 18 to June 9, 1999, as he recovered from elbow surgery.

Bonds was also dogged by steroid allegations in the offseason. According to the Chronicle, Bonds testified to a grand jury in December 2003 that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by a trainer who was indicted in a steroid-distribution ring, but said he didn't know if they were steroids. Prosecutors believe the substances were two steroids at the center of the BALCO scandal.
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That's what he gets for injecting his knee with a dirty needle.
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ESPN's Pedro Gomez just reported that a mysterious man only known as smelvin has manually drained fluid from Barry Bonds' (expletive deleted). Stay tuned to ESPN and Baseball Tonight for around the clock coverage.
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ESPN's Pedro Gomez just reported that a mysterious man only known as smelvin has manually drained fluid from Barry Bonds' (expletive deleted). Stay tuned to ESPN and Baseball Tonight for around the clock coverage.
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Hey, that supposed one man team in San Francisco is leading the National League in runs scored and they're second in team batting average.

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Team GP AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI AVG TB SLG%
San Francisco Giants 26 908 136 257 52 6 25 129 .283 396 .436
Los Angeles Dodgers 26 877 134 234 47 5 30 130 .267 381 .434
New York Mets 27 910 124 243 45 2 28 116 .267 376 .413
Chicago Cubs 25 885 123 244 50 6 32 120 .276 402 .454
Arizona Diamondbacks 27 924 120 236 55 6 26 118 .255 381 .412
Florida Marlins 24 810 120 225 46 7 20 113 .278 345 .426
St. Louis Cardinals 25 857 120 222 49 5 28 114 .259 365 .426
Milwaukee Brewers 25 850 119 208 53 2 26 112 .245 343 .404
Cincinnati Reds 26 861 115 216 57 1 28 108 .251 359 .417
San Diego Padres 27 927 114 228 42 6 26 111 .246 360 .388
Washington Nationals 27 898 112 244 48 11 26 109 .272 392 .437
Philadelphia Phillies 27 888 112 224 38 3 19 106 .252 325 .366
Colorado Rockies 24 837 111 239 45 6 19 107 .286 353 .422
Houston Astros 25 844 108 219 54 10 16 106 .259 341 .404
Atlanta Braves 26 871 106 209 47 4 22 99 .240 330 .379
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I nominate Prior, Slappy's favorite player.
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Incredible! This guy is too much. He's using a surgeon who the team hasn't approved, doing rehab the team hasn't approved and now is trying to keep secret a third surgery on his knee.

"My original plans were to wait a week before reporting on my condition so I would have a better idea on how my leg was responding," Bonds wrote. "Due to informational leaks ... the media has been contacting my PR firm asking about my status. So, before any hearsay or false information is reported, I wanted you to hear about my condition directly from me."

SAN FRANCISCO - Barry Bonds had a third operation on his injured right knee, the latest setback in the slugger's rehabilitation, he said on his Web site Wednesday.
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Bonds underwent arthroscopic surgery Monday in Southern California as doctors tried to clean out an infection, first draining fluids from his knee, according to a journal entry from Bonds posted on his Web site.

"The surgery went well. Dr. (Arthur) Ting cleaned out the infected area and they are now treating me with antibiotics," Bonds wrote. "I know you have many questions regarding me playing baseball but right now I have to spend the time focusing on getting healthy. I've been through ups and downs before and I will be back."

The surgery was first reported by the San Francisco Chronicle. The newspaper reported Bonds would take antibiotics for at least two weeks and could not resume his rehab until doctors are assured the infection is gone.

Bonds already had operations on the knee Jan. 31 and March 17 to remove damaged cartilage.

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San Francisco Giants have stopped giving medical updates on Bonds, and his agent on Tuesday would not confirm that Bonds had the operation.

"The only comment I have about Barry is that the day his knee is healthy, he will be back on the field in uniform," Jeff Borris said.

Bonds has been giving his medical updates on his personal Web site but did not mention the surgery until Wednesday.

"My original plans were to wait a week before reporting on my condition so I would have a better idea on how my leg was responding," Bonds wrote. "Due to informational leaks ... the media has been contacting my PR firm asking about my status. So, before any hearsay or false information is reported, I wanted you to hear about my condition directly from me."

That will likely delay Bonds' return and the resumption of his quest for baseball's career home run record even longer. In an outburst during spring training, Bonds said he might not be back for at least half the season, maybe the whole season.

The 40-year-old Bonds has 703 career home runs, 11 behind Babe Ruth and 52 from tying Hank Aaron's career record. Bonds batted .362 last season with 45 homers and 101 RBIs and also walked a major league-record 232 times on the way to his record seventh MVP award.

This is just the third time in his career he's gone on the disabled list and the first since April 18 to June 9, 1999, as he recovered from elbow surgery.

Bonds was also dogged by steroid allegations in the offseason. According to the Chronicle, Bonds testified to a grand jury in December 2003 that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by a trainer who was indicted in a steroid-distribution ring, but said he didn't know if they were steroids. Prosecutors believe the substances were two steroids at the center of the BALCO scandal.
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Surgery to clear up an infection?

As I said in October, the Curse of the Bambino has found a more deserving target.


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Old 05-05-2005, 08:33 AM   #12
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Incredible! This guy is too much. He's using a surgeon who the team hasn't approved
Why did I think of Dr. Nick Riviera when I read this?

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It's not uncommon when you drain fluid to create an infection. My brother had a walking Pnumonia and when they went to Hawaii, it got uncomfortable, and they drained his plural sac, and he developed an infection that almost killed him. He still has a scar from when they cracked his ribs apart at Mayo and sucked out the cheese. Then they cracked him open AGAIN when it localized to finally clean it up. He almost died. They were driving the Caddy 100MPH when they got back to get him to a hospital as soon as they got to Minneapolis. Infection is common when your messing around past the epidermus.

Any time you go under the knife, you risk infection. Bonds could of just been in a whirlpool and caught a bug.
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It's not uncommon when you drain fluid to create an infection. My brother had a walking Pnumonia and when they went to Hawaii, it got uncomfortable, and they drained his plural sac, and he developed an infection that almost killed him. He still has a scar from when they cracked his ribs apart at Mayo and sucked out the cheese. Then they cracked him open AGAIN when it localized to finally clean it up. He almost died. They were driving the Caddy 100MPH when they got back to get him to a hospital as soon as they got to Minneapolis. Infection is common when your messing around past the epidermus.

Any time you go under the knife, you risk infection. Bonds could of just been in a whirlpool and caught a bug.
I've had my knees worked on a few times and never had any infections. Maybe I was lucky or had a good cutter. I heard guy that worked on me has done some Broncos and a lot of big name skiers.
I don't know about this guy that Bonds has cutting on him. He hasn't seemed to get it right yet (3 tries and counting).
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Don't hate on Bonds. Hes just trying to buy himself some more time to work on his swing. So he doesn't look like a complete fool at the plate. Or he's just waiting for them to lift the ban on steroids before he comes back.
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It's not uncommon when you drain fluid to create an infection. My brother had a walking Pnumonia and when they went to Hawaii, it got uncomfortable, and they drained his plural sac, and he developed an infection that almost killed him. He still has a scar from when they cracked his ribs apart at Mayo and sucked out the cheese. Then they cracked him open AGAIN when it localized to finally clean it up. He almost died. They were driving the Caddy 100MPH when they got back to get him to a hospital as soon as they got to Minneapolis. Infection is common when your messing around past the epidermus.

Any time you go under the knife, you risk infection. Bonds could of just been in a whirlpool and caught a bug.
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Here's Bill Simmons' take on steroids in baseball.



This article appears in the May 9th issue of ESPN The Magazine.

When news leaked that baseball was battling a steroids problem, I hopped in my car and cruised aimlessly around Southern California, struggling to see the road through moistened eyes, wondering how I could have let myself be so blindsided. You mean Jason Giambi didn't grow that second jaw and Mark McGwire didn't put on those 25 pounds of muscle naturally? Could Barry Bonds actually have been cheating when he entered a second prime in his late 30s? Maybe I drove to search for answers. Maybe I drove to find my lost innocence. Maybe I drove to remember why I loved baseball in the first place.

Or maybe I just made all that up.

Unlike most of the idiots who have columns, I'm the idiot who is delighted by the current steroids crisis. I can't even tell you what part I've liked best. Giambi apologizing profusely for something he wouldn't reveal? Bonds claiming he was deceived into using a steroid cream? McGwire clamming up during the congressional hearing like Frankie Five Angels? Viagra spokesman Rafael Palmeiro pooh-poohing any insinuation that he would use a performance enhancer? The possibility that Jose Canseco-quite possibly the dumbest athlete of my lifetime -- was the mastermind who brought down baseball? Or was it that so many members of the media seemed traumatized by the stream of revelations?

Self-righteousness, moral outrage, sweeping self-importance & this "scandal" has it all. More than one columnist decided this was baseball's version of Watergate, which certainly makes sense: Watergate led to the resignation of a president and sent our country into a profound, decadelong funk. Steroidsgate caused an offensive boom in which every statistical norm has pretty much been thrown out the window. It's a totally valid comparison. One scribe who revisited McGwire's historic season came off like an adult who just found out Santa Claus didn't exist. Seriously, could these people really have not known? Contact hitters suddenly hit 40 homers. Shortstops looked like soccer players one day, the Ultimate Warrior the next. Relievers who'd always thrown in the low 90s topped 98. None of this seemed strange? Honestly, was anyone watching these guys and saying, "Wow, I'd love to hire his personal trainer. He looks fantastic!" During the 1999 All-Star Home Run Derby, I was in Fenway as McGwire (who, like Giambi, was skinnier in college than Screech Powers) launched homers over the Monster. Sure, the baseballs were wound tighter than Jerry Jones's face, but there wasn't a second when I thought the guy was doing what he was doing without help.

Here's the funny thing: I didn't care. I wanted to see Big Mac reach the Mass Pike. I knowingly looked past the signs that night, just like I did throughout the Maris Chase and every other shaky event since the 1994 strike. What did these guys do wrong, anyway? If Giambi can post huge numbers and sucker someone into ponying up a nine-figure contract, why should we stop him? What difference does it make if a pitcher gains velocity from an enhancer or from a dead guy's knee ligament that has been transplanted into his elbow?

Wait ... what are you apologizing for again?
Doesn't everyone cheat? Baserunners pass stolen signs to hitters; catchers frame balls to make them look like strikes; foreign players lie about their age; outfielders pretend they caught balls they trapped; pitchers scuff; hitters cork. Cheating has always been part of the game, right up there with potbellied managers and the seventh-inning stretch.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think the steroids subplot is a superb wrinkle to the 2005 season. There have been so many highlights already. Team Selig getting tough on anonymous minor leaguers and obscure players like Devil Ray Alex Sanchez. Bonds taking his sweet time recovering from knee surgery. Poor Brian Roberts, he of the improbable seven homers, becoming the subject of more unsubstantiated rumors than Lindsay Lohan. Some suspected longtime juicers looking slimmer and struggling mightily in April. And the media's accusatory reaction after Nomar's groin muscle tore right from the bone. (You'd think someone noticed a syringe sticking out of his butt as he lay writhing on the ground.)

It's a new era for baseball. We aren't just fans anymore, we're steroids detectives. We've all mentally prepared ourselves for every possible scenario. At this point, we wouldn't be surprised if someone's arm flew off his body during a swing.

So is it a loss of innocence? Absolutely. I'm at a loss about why anyone ever thought these guys were innocent. Now if we found out Roy Hobbs was juicing, that would be a loss of innocence.

(Then again, he did have a career year in his mid-30s ... )
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I heard he waited to have surgy just before training camp so he would miss the first half of the season THUS giving him time for his body to get clean. I don't know if it's true but it is an interesting theory.
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Don't hate on Bonds. Hes just trying to buy himself some more time to work on his swing. So he doesn't look like a complete fool at the plate. Or he's just waiting for them to lift the ban on steroids before he comes back.
He;s just trying to buy himself more time away from the media to dodge the steroid questions, not to work on his swing.
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Wait ... what are you apologizing for again?
Doesn't everyone cheat? Baserunners pass stolen signs to hitters; catchers frame balls to make them look like strikes; foreign players lie about their age; outfielders pretend they caught balls they trapped; pitchers scuff; hitters cork. Cheating has always been part of the game, right up there with potbellied managers and the seventh-inning stretch.
Here's the part in each one of these apologists' articles where they label themselves as simpletons. I wait for it each time and I'm never disappointed.
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Looks like Bonds has found himself a real professional to cut on him.

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SAN FRANCISCO -- Barry Bonds' three recent knee operations were performed by a prominent doctor who has a history of troubles with state medical authorities.

Dr. Arthur J. Ting has been reprimanded twice by the Medical Board of California, and currently is on probation for unprofessional conduct, the Arizona Republic reported Thursday.

Ting, the team physician for the NHL's San Jose Sharks who has treated many prominent Bay Area athletes, completed his first probation in 1998. According to the newspaper, Ting was placed on five years' probation on April 5, 2004, because of a second incident of unprofessional conduct.

A medical board spokeswoman didn't immediately return a phone call Thursday from The Associated Press.

Ting has performed three operations on Bonds' troublesome left knee since January. On Monday, Ting performed an emergency surgery to clean out a bacterial infection in Bonds' knee, according to the San Francisco Giants slugger's Web site, where he releases the only available updates on his condition.

According to documents obtained by the Republic, a complaint to the medical board in May 2003 alleged that Ting employed an unlicensed technician who saw patients and wrote prescriptions. Many patients believed the technician was a doctor.

The complaint also accused Ting of prescribing "dangerous drugs and controlled substances to friends and acquaintances, particularly athletes, for whom he kept no medical records or for whom the medical records were fictitious, inadequate or inaccurate."

Ting signed an agreement with the board on Jan. 4, 2004, acknowledging he "was negligent in his supervision of subordinates," but he denied all other allegations in the complaint.

Ting was ordered to pay for the $15,000 investigation. The board revoked his license, but stayed the revocation while he served five years' probation.

Bonds' latest surgery probably will postpone his chase of Hank Aaron's career home run record at least until July. Bonds has 703 homers, third in major league history behind Aaron (755) and Babe Ruth (714).

Bonds rarely gives updates on his condition, and the Giants' medical staff apparently has been asked to keep quiet on the subject.

Last month, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Bonds still is working out with Greg Anderson, his childhood friend and personal trainer who's awaiting trial this fall in the BALCO steroids case. Anderson is accused of distributing performance-enhancing drugs to athletes.
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